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Topic	Free speech does not equal Hate speech
darkknight109 08/27/17 3:19:26 AM #73:	Zeus posted... And, in general, just because we recognize that there are absolute limits to free speech -- shouting fire in a crowded movie theater -- does not mean we should curtail anything that offends you. Never said we should. I can think of several things that offend me that I still believe should be 100% legal to voice (criticism of religion, anti-immigration nonsense, suggesting that the Star Wars prequels weren't completely terrible, etc.). Hate speech, though? I'd be totally fine if the government banned it. I'm not accepting a ban because hate speech offends people; I'm accepting a ban because hate speech is destructive and has no redeeming value whatsoever. Zeus posted... Depends. How many times are you and others going to embody the values represented by that book? I've never called anyone Hitler (aside from Hitler, that is), so I think this is the part of the argument where I can point out you're being completely ridiculous. Zeus posted... Except no, because they criticized them as NEO-Nazis and even then it was for political gain. Right! They criticized the Nazis. Glad you agree. Zeus posted... Because apparently killing rival socialists means you're not socialist? Because that's flimsy, even for you. If you want "flimsy", the fact that you still can't face-up to the fact that the Nazis were and are right-wing extremists is downright laughable. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:885523054] in Free speec... [t:75698959]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And, in general, just because we recognize that there are absolute limits to free speech -- shouting fire in a crowded movie theater -- does not mean we should curtail anything that offends you.</quote> Never said we should. I can think of several things that offend me that I still believe should be 100% legal to voice (criticism of religion, anti-immigration nonsense, suggesting that the Star Wars prequels weren't completely terrible, etc.). Hate speech, though? I'd be totally fine if the government banned it. I'm not accepting a ban because hate speech offends people; I'm accepting a ban because hate speech is destructive and has no redeeming value whatsoever. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Depends. How many times are you and others going to embody the values represented by that book? </quote> I've never called anyone Hitler (aside from Hitler, that is), so I think this is the part of the argument where I can point out you're being completely ridiculous. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Except no, because they criticized them as NEO-Nazis and even then it was for political gain. </quote> Right! They criticized the Nazis. Glad you agree. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Because apparently killing rival socialists means you're not socialist? Because that's flimsy, even for you.</quote> If you want "flimsy", the fact that you still can't face-up to the fact that the Nazis were and are right-wing extremists is downright laughable. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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