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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 127: Jay Cullen and Berke Bates
StealThisSheen 08/20/17 12:43:41 PM #443:	Uglyface2 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Uglyface2 posted... The First Amendment is still in place, which means people with terrible ideas are still allowed to express them publicly. It doesn't protect violence. Nazi rhetoric is violence. It goes above and beyond general racism and into being an actionable threat just by its mere public utterance No, it's not, and I hate you for making me defend Nazis. Until somebody starts making specific threats like, "We need to bomb the XYZ Building," or, "We need to kill Jane Smith," it doesn't reach the level of actionable. But let's take your argument and pretend you're right. Does that call for vigilante tactics? Shouldn't these counter-protesters call for the police? And if not, then why are they the only movement that's allowed to be violent? This is just dangerous. The guy that ran people over with his car did it BECAUSE of those words. Just sweeping them under the rug and referring to people like that as "crazies" is not helping anything. And even the people that ARE crazy... Them being able to hear that rhetoric over and over is more likely to move them to action. Look at the guy that shot up that pizza joint because of Pizzagate. Do you think he would have done that if "Pizzagate" wasn't being spread around as if it was fact? Now consider that Nazis are spreading far, far worse. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885116910] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Uglyface2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Uglyface2 posted...</cite> <quote>The First Amendment is still in place, which means people with terrible ideas are still allowed to express them publicly. It doesn't protect violence.</quote> Nazi rhetoric is violence. It goes above and beyond general racism and into being an actionable threat just by its mere public utterance</quote> No, it's not, and I hate you for making me defend Nazis. Until somebody starts making specific threats like, "We need to bomb the XYZ Building," or, "We need to kill Jane Smith," it doesn't reach the level of actionable. But let's take your argument and pretend you're right. Does that call for vigilante tactics? Shouldn't these counter-protesters call for the police? And if not, then why are they the only movement that's allowed to be violent?</quote> This is just dangerous. The guy that ran people over with his car did it BECAUSE of those words. Just sweeping them under the rug and referring to people like that as "crazies" is not helping anything. And even the people that ARE crazy... Them being able to hear that rhetoric over and over is more likely to move them to action. Look at the guy that shot up that pizza joint because of Pizzagate. Do you think he would have done that if "Pizzagate" wasn't being spread around as if it was fact? Now consider that Nazis are spreading far, far worse. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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