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TopicDid you know? (related to ongoing antifa/neo-Nazi feud)
TheCyborgNinja
08/19/17 11:55:19 PM
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With all these uneducated WWII comments and references trying to prove their side is right in the neo-Nazi and antifa foolishness at the moment, here's some historical perspective as to why this is not helpful (the word "fun" being used ironically):

Fun fact #1: the US military was still segregated during WWII (Truman ended it in 1948).
Fun fact #2: no black soldiers were awarded with the Medal of Honor during WWII.
Fun fact #3: it wasn't uncommon for blacks to have to give up their seats on trains for Nazi POWs.
Fun fact #4: in 1939, following the outbreak of WWII, a poll determined 94% of Americans were against interfering.
Fun fact #5: Japanese-Americans were put in concentration camps while German-Americans were not.

Bonus fun fact:
In a 1938 poll, approximately 60 percent of the respondents held a low opinion of Jews, labeling them "greedy," "dishonest," and "pushy." 41 percent of respondents agreed that Jews had "too much power in the United States," and this figure rose to 58 percent by 1945. In 1939 a Roper poll found that only thirty-nine percent of Americans felt that Jews should be treated like other people. Fifty-three percent believed that "Jews are different and should be restricted" and ten percent believed that Jews should be deported. Several surveys taken from 1940 to 1946 found that Jews were seen as a greater threat to the welfare of the United States than any other national, religious, or racial group.


Yeah, let's keep using WWII as a reference for what's going on right now (sarcasm). It's about as accurately implemented as the "literal Hitler" accusations flying around this place. All of the reactionary aggression and ignorance has prompted me to point this out as calmly and intelligently as possible, as a means of limiting dialogue to more productive areas of discussion. If anything, racism was far more widespread and acceptable during the '30s & '40s, and the West and Germany had more in common with their values socially during that period than we realize at first glance. Both of today's left and right fringes are fascists in their own ways, and the "anti-fascists" of WWII would definitely not side with anti-constitutional groups such as antifa based on what we objectively know of the culture from which they came (and I'm not implying they'd side with the neo-Nazis, just so we're clear).

Sources (because I realize this is a controversial topic and don't want to be misunderstood or considered offensive):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_against_African_Americans_in_the_U.S._military#World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism_in_the_United_States#1930s
https://visitpearlharbor.org/didnt-american-initially-join-war/

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