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Jakyl25 posted...

I don't hate them because they're violent. "The monster I hate" is killing people because of their race. I would not be doing that (and hopefully not killing anyone at all)

so if it's not race, but belief, it's okay?
just wanting to know where the line is.

MenuWars posted...

There is no rhetoric though wang, I'm not saying all the right are bad, I'm saying Nazis are bad, there's a clear distinction and it doesn't imply culpability to unaffiliated factions. You're being intentionally obtuse by trying to turn that into a slippery slope argument, again you're wrong.

we agree nazis are bad but we aren't really saying about things being good or bad.
we're talking about when it's okay to put your boot to a person's neck. you said:

"Like their ideology is ethnic cleansing, therefore if you are of the ethnicity they want dead, you have every reason to fear them and every reason to kill them first in all honesty."

so... when is it okay to do that?
because you just gave an explicit clause where killing them first is okay.

"slippery slope" isn't really much of a slope, there's plenty on the left and right who have already been called the wrong term. there's no slope when you're already there, people are stupid, not nuanced, when it comes to emotional issues and fear.

MenuWars posted...

I'm all for devil's advocate but you'd soon change your tune if you had a bunch of them gathered around your neighbourhood calling for your head.

again:
if it's me, specifically? yeah, that'd be a crime and something i'd be concerned over, sure.
if it's against a group that i'm in? no. i would not.

Dark Young Link posted...

Actually, you know what?

Let's play ball.

Let's say that, yes. Yes we all decided to go out there and butcher the Nazis without remorse.
(And let us assume that we don't kill anyone innocent by mistake.)

What would you say to that?

What would you do about that?

How long would you mourn for those who advocated genocide?

Hypothetically, of course.

that you're all terrible people, i want nothing to do with you, and i hope you spend the rest of your lives in jail. any counter movement that springs up as a direct result of your actions is something you'll have to deal with behind bars, realizing just how badly you fucked up for letting your emotions take over, and i'll be on the other side pissed at you for having to clean up your mess.

hypothetically.
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