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Topic	This is how political correctness dies
Wanglicious 08/07/17 6:23:36 PM #219:	Jakyl25 posted... They don't get the sexy mainstream coverage, but this does happen. <_<; the same way CNN recently ran an article on the increase of female suicide rates while ignoring that male suicide rates are 3-4x higher and increased too, i imagine. but if you want to end that stigma, unfortunately you've got a lot of factors and i'm not sure there's a good answer. people do tend to like female nurses more and feel they're more nurturing than men; women do typically perform better with small children. there may be a drop from the crazy 90% range they sit in but those fields are always going to be heavily female dominant. just as a lot of the high risk jobs or physical labor will be dominated by men. Jakyl25 posted... I never got an answer as to how these hires have hurt Google's business that's one aspect i think he got wrong, partially because i'm not sure he even bothered to check demographic data much for google, facebook, etc. generally speaking most industries focus on pushing the increase of opportunity, such as promoting themselves in minority colleges or in female heavy areas. when it comes to hiring it comes down to dollars, ability, and purpose. i mean don't get it wrong, women are still significantly more preferred hires than men in tech (glorified quotas to be frank) but a good company won't lower their standards. if both pass and both are good candidates, they'll just take the one that they need the most, even if that need is entirely for optics. they're still fully qualified though so it's not really a major problem. his premise is that we should be doing it based fully on merit but that's already the case for any major position. for smaller ones it may include more factors but it's usually going to be fine. google's just not a good company for what he's talking about. different places have tried to adopt the more "diversity quota" type of shit he seems to be inferring, those tend to fail soon after. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:884359703] in This is ho... [t:75645827]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote> They don't get the sexy mainstream coverage, but this does happen.</quote> <_<; the same way CNN recently ran an article on the increase of female suicide rates while ignoring that male suicide rates are 3-4x higher and increased too, i imagine. but if you want to end that stigma, unfortunately you've got a lot of factors and i'm not sure there's a good answer. people do tend to like female nurses more and feel they're more nurturing than men; women do typically perform better with small children. there may be a drop from the crazy 90% range they sit in but those fields are always going to be heavily female dominant. just as a lot of the high risk jobs or physical labor will be dominated by men. <cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote> I never got an answer as to how these hires have hurt Google's business</quote> that's one aspect i think he got wrong, partially because i'm not sure he even bothered to check demographic data much for google, facebook, etc. generally speaking most industries focus on pushing the increase of opportunity, such as promoting themselves in minority colleges or in female heavy areas. when it comes to hiring it comes down to dollars, ability, and purpose. i mean don't get it wrong, women are still significantly more preferred hires than men in tech (glorified quotas to be frank) but a good company won't lower their standards. if both pass and both are good candidates, they'll just take the one that they need the most, even if that need is entirely for optics. they're still fully qualified though so it's not really a major problem. his premise is that we should be doing it based fully on merit but that's already the case for any major position. for smaller ones it may include more factors but it's usually going to be fine. google's just not a good company for what he's talking about. different places have tried to adopt the more "diversity quota" type of shit he seems to be inferring, those tend to fail soon after. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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