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TopicJustice Department to take on affirmative action in college applications
legendary_zell
08/02/17 10:50:22 AM
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C7D posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Annihilated posted...
It's really satisfying to see the leftist trolls getting triggered by practical egalitarianism. Really shows off their true character.


In what sense is this practical egalitarianism? In the present day, the schools the different racial groups attend are not close to equal in funding, teacher quality, safety, class offerings or achievement due to racial and economic segregation and housing based school funding/school assignments. This is due to historical patterns of the same issues.

Success in higher education is most closely associated with parental wealth and whether parents went to college, and then the quality of education received. This individualistic, "meritocratic" view is more of a morality play than any type of practicality.

Getting rid of AA is literally just rewarding the groups that secured power for themselves over the generations at the expense of the people trying to slowly pull themselves up. I have STILL never heard anyone find a way to meaningfully dispute the footrace analogy without attempting to muddy the waters with "we all have problems" rhetoric. If there is an endless marathon and some runners are beaten and handcuffed for 80 percent of the race, while other racers are allowed to run relatively free is everything "fair" the moment the handcuffs are taken off? Or would thinking that way ignore the obvious effects of the past on the present and ignore the unfair accumulated advantages some have gotten even if they haven't beaten anyone? Wouldn't the only fair thing to do be to give the formerly restrained people at least a tiny boost even though we overall are now committed not help or hinder any groups. And wouldn't calling the race fair be a farce?

Well that's why we had AA in the first place.

Thank God that isn't universally true. Mom worked in a sewing factory. Dad was a lawn mower mechanic. I attended school at the 94/95th funded county in the lowest funded state in the USA. Now I hold a PhD in chemical engineering. I graduated with a 4.0 GPA. While I am a Caucasian male, I gladly took that minority fellowship. I'm the only one who thought to apply.



Yes, you and I both made it, but the race still wasn't even close to fair and that's the real issue. Focusing on individual achievements that have always existed ignores how fucked up the system was. A few people during slavery and Jim Crow made it despite the odds. A few people from Hell town, West Virginia make it. But they are the exception to an unfair rule.
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