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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 114: Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated!
Wanglicious
07/21/17 6:01:48 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Putting Wang in ignore was very liberating. Shame about the quoting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTpgqqLyAs8
xp1337 posted...

do you think pardons are limited in use? or have a cooldown?


well yeah, there's a limit.
"case of impeachment."

now how that has been defined, i don't know. but i do know things as low as misdemeanors could be used to impeach, so if you take the logical conclusion that such things would be cases of impeachment, that'd work. of course, courts don't follow common sense all the time so maybe there's some case law that awkwardly defines it.

xp1337 posted...

of course he's also looking at what he can do to for his inner circle, the article says as much


as barely a footnote before writing a couple paragraphs on the legal ideas behind a president pardoning himself.
so instead of focusing on what a presidential pardon on Kushner would mean, something that has a strong basis in reality on a guy who seems pretty trapped, we get useless facts. if that article got into Kushner's position as a civil officer, what "case of impeachment" means, and what each entails, that could've been good and relevant.


Jakyl25 posted...
A good point about pardoning I had forgotten

It removes your ability to plead the 5th regarding the crime you've been pardoned for, because you can no longer "incriminate" yourself.

Depending on who he pardons, that could bite Trump


yeah, very real possibility that if somebody resigns, gets pardoned, any contents for that one person's investigation
of course, Trump can pardon a group of people. he could simply go with a broad pardon where he says anybody who's worked on his campaign is pardoned with respect to anything to do with Russia or Russian agents.

but that would work on anyone who isn't a civil officer, president, or vice president. and if it's something to move forward with against one of those, "whoops."
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