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M-103 was a non-binding motion. All it basically was was a note saying "We think discriminating against Muslims is bad. Signed, Parliament." It has no legal weight whatsoever.

No, it calls for parliamentary investigation into "Islamophobia". If it were "discrimination against Muslims is bad. *bam* we're done" I would not have a problem with it. And if you think the results of this inquiry aren't going to influence binding policy decisions, then you're not aware of the absolute cluster fucks the federal and various provincial (especially Ontario) Human Rights Commissions are.

Well, first off, phrasing what you've said another way is saying "The government is investigating groups that discriminate based on religion, therefore the government should be a group that discriminates based on religion," which doesn't make a lick of sense. Secondly, can you provide some examples of these people who you feel were improperly targeted based on their views?

What discrimination? If M-103 calls for investigating private citizens and groups, who've done nothing wrong except maybe (MAYBE!) being a little bit politically incorrect, then all groups and all citizens are open to the same scrutiny. In which case, I go back to my original point - I'm not sure what rights you think I'm suggesting be violated when I call for investigations into mosques. Unless of course, M-103 is problematic.



darkknight109 posted...

It's worth noting that suffragettes, gay rights activists, and those advocating for granting non-whites equal status under the law were also once labelled as dangerous subversives who were undermining the moral and legal fabric of society. So no, I don't think that's a good enough reason.

They weren't crashing planes into buildings.

In fact, while I wouldn't say their movements were 100% non-violent, they were essentially movements rooted in western ideals. They didn't want to dismantle western values, they wanted in.

darkknight109 posted...

Canadian culture is strong enough that I have full confidence it can survive the airing of bad ideas. A few nutbars with barmy ideas are not going to rewrite 150 years of progress.

I want to believe that, but we've seen what's happened in Europe, and count our lucky stars there's a huge physical barrier between us. And major Islamization can happen within a single lifetime.

darkknight109 posted...

Here, I can prove it. Can you identify for me a single mosque - just one - who has succeeded in implementing sharia law, rolling back some element of Canadian progress, or, hell, just altering any law whatsoever? I mean, if this really is as big a threat as you're asking me to consider it, this should not be a problem - just one example from anywhere in Canada will do fine.

What that proves to me is their willingness to import the sort of ideas that caused their own nations to fail. Don't think for a second that ends at Sharia. puh-lease.
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