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Topic	Do you think it's right Ariana Grande has cancelled the rest of her concerts?
UnfairRepresent 05/24/17 10:03:28 AM #64:	emblem boy posted... I don't see how my statement is arguing for that. I'm saying that I see letting terrorists win if the attack causes a change in your values. Not doing a tour because you're so afraid of terrorists is a change in your values. You now value your tour and your society less than you did a week before. I don't think this is even debatable. How can you argue she has changed how she values her safety and the importance of her tour and at the same time argue she hasn't changed her values? That's an oxymoron. What you're arguing is that you think that letting terrorists win is worth it due to emotions and mental health. And that's your opinion. You don't need to try to justify it via dishonesty, that way madness lies. PostCrisisJ2 posted... I never said that submitting to terrorism wasn't bad. Just that maybe people who aren't used to having people die at a performance they were at are going to be, at the very least, a bit shaken up about it enough to the point where they may want to retreat from it all. Absolutely and I don't think anyone can blame her for not being up to dealing with those emotions. It's a tall order. PostCrisisJ2 posted... Yes, what you're saying is reasonable, but people aren't always reasonable, especially if they've been emotionally compromised by something like a terror attack (whose purpose is to inflict emotional turmoil on the populace). Expecting people to be reasonable 100% of the time isn't exactly reasonable. Well exactly. Which is why in my post I specifically mentioned the difference between emotion and pragmastism. Especially when dealing with a young girl. People being surprised or angry that she is being overwhelmed by emotions are not very intelligent. It's obviously going to happen. TC's "Do you think it's right?" is the wrong question in my eyes. Also, it may not have been Grande's own choice to even cancel in the first place--I can't see how her agency or something would decide to do it in order to protect her own safety and the safety of her fans. Something most people would actually consider reasonable. I don't think this is the case. Either way it's a moot point. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:879713384] in Do you thi... [t:75379081]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> I don't see how my statement is arguing for that. I'm saying that I see letting terrorists win if the attack causes a change in your values.</quote> Not doing a tour because you're so afraid of terrorists is a change in your values. You now value your tour and your society less than you did a week before. I don't think this is even debatable. How can you argue she has changed how she values her safety and the importance of her tour and at the same time argue she hasn't changed her values? That's an oxymoron. What you're arguing is that you think that letting terrorists win is worth it due to emotions and mental health. And that's your opinion. You don't need to try to justify it via dishonesty, that way madness lies. <cite>PostCrisisJ2 posted...</cite> <quote> I never said that submitting to terrorism wasn't bad. Just that maybe people who aren't used to having people die at a performance they were at are going to be, at the very least, a bit shaken up about it enough to the point where they may want to retreat from it all.</quote> Absolutely and I don't think anyone can blame her for not being up to dealing with those emotions. It's a tall order. <cite>PostCrisisJ2 posted...</cite> <quote> Yes, what you're saying is reasonable, but people aren't always reasonable, especially if they've been emotionally compromised by something like a terror attack (whose purpose is to inflict emotional turmoil on the populace). Expecting people to be reasonable 100% of the time isn't exactly reasonable. </quote> Well exactly. Which is why in my post I specifically mentioned the difference between emotion and pragmastism. Especially when dealing with a young girl. People being surprised or angry that she is being overwhelmed by emotions are not very intelligent. It's obviously going to happen. TC's "Do you think it's right?" is the wrong question in my eyes. <quote>Also, it may not have been Grande's own choice to even cancel in the first place--I can't see how her agency or something would decide to do it in order to protect her own safety and the safety of her fans. Something most people would actually consider reasonable.</quote> I don't think this is the case. Either way it's a moot point. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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