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Topic	Did you guys agree with Joel's choice? end spoilers
UnfairRepresent 04/20/17 9:27:42 AM #19:	Soviet_Poland posted... I'm sorry, a 15 year old girl who suffers the trauma of living in that environment cannot give an informed decision when told by a radicalist group that she can save humanity when in fact they were documented fuccbois who botched experimental surgeries on people with similar resistances. No there's not. What are you on about? Soviet_Poland posted... Ellie wasn't unique and any sort of treatment or cure theoretically derived from her would have been used for geopolitical gain and would not benefit humanity at large. That's a huge IF considering a cure was unlikely anyway. Ellie was unique. Seriously this is what I mean, this is pure fan-fiction just to justify Joel's murder spree darkprince45 posted... We get its wrong what he did. But it's not so black and white. He had a human connection with someone. So did all the people he murdered Soviet_Poland posted... I suggest you read up on medical/bioethics regarding informed consent and how the coercive manner the fireflies acted literally precludes one from making a rationally informed decision. It's still her decision dude, so much so that Joel flat out has to lie to her to get to go along with no doing it. You're talking about "the coercive manner the fireflies acted literally precludes one from making a rationally informed decision." when the guy you're defending is a murderer who lied to her to force her to do what he wants her to do for his own selfish reasons. It's fucked up. Joel's a dick man. That was the point of the ending. Joel goes evil and fucks the world that fucked him --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877554772] in Did you gu... [t:75259051]...</cite> <quote><cite>Soviet_Poland posted...</cite> <quote> I'm sorry, a 15 year old girl who suffers the trauma of living in that environment cannot give an informed decision when told by a radicalist group that she can save humanity when in fact they were documented fuccbois who botched experimental surgeries on people with similar resistances.</quote> No there's not. What are you on about? <cite>Soviet_Poland posted...</cite> <quote> Ellie wasn't unique and any sort of treatment or cure theoretically derived from her would have been used for geopolitical gain and would not benefit humanity at large. That's a huge IF considering a cure was unlikely anyway.</quote> Ellie was unique. Seriously this is what I mean, this is pure fan-fiction just to justify Joel's murder spree <cite>darkprince45 posted...</cite> <quote> We get its wrong what he did. But it's not so black and white. He had a human connection with someone. </quote> So did all the people he murdered <cite>Soviet_Poland posted...</cite> <quote> I suggest you read up on medical/bioethics regarding informed consent and how the coercive manner the fireflies acted literally precludes one from making a rationally informed decision.</quote> It's still her decision dude, so much so that Joel flat out has to lie to her to get to go along with no doing it. You're talking about "the coercive manner the fireflies acted literally precludes one from making a rationally informed decision." when the guy you're defending is a murderer who lied to her to force her to do what he wants her to do for his own selfish reasons. It's fucked up. Joel's a dick man. That was the point of the ending. Joel goes evil and fucks the world that fucked him --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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