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Inviso 04/09/17 8:59:57 AM #239:	JetJaguar posted... I think it's crazy to make Tina's win into a girl power thing when it was literally the second season of the show and a female came within a coin flip (allegedly) of winning the first. I also give a lot more credence to Colby just being a good guy to a fault in her making the final over anything she did. I think basically any older woman would have been brought along by Colby, especially against someone like Keith. I think Colby was the first reality show contestant to realize he was on a national TV show and kind of play up the hero thing. I'm not entirely convinced his reaction to Tina's win was entirely genuine. That kind of play has become an entirely legitimate strategy, as I wouldn't be shocked if Rupert has won more money than any other contestant despite never winning. 1. Kelly was NEVER winning Borneo. That vote was gonna be 6-1 until Sue started tearing into her and insulted Gervase in the process. 2. Girl power WAS a thing back in 2001 when Survivor was brand new and there WAS an undercurrent of thought that, after a perceived asshole (who was really just smug at his worst) like Richard Hatch won, that a man would always win Survivor. Again, given that this vote came down to Alicia (who really had no reason to like or hate either contestant), it's not impossible that she voted based on girl power in the face of this idea. Tina's win as a point in history is just too randomly convenient for me to 100% believe her to be an amazing player. I think she's reasonably smart and manipulative, but I think the circumstances revolving around Australia being an attempt to subvert the negatives of Borneo are the main reason her style of gameplay was able to find success. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:876844913] in Inviso and... [t:75145500]...</cite> <quote><cite>JetJaguar posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's crazy to make Tina's win into a girl power thing when it was literally the second season of the show and a female came within a coin flip (allegedly) of winning the first. I also give a lot more credence to Colby just being a good guy to a fault in her making the final over anything she did. I think basically any older woman would have been brought along by Colby, especially against someone like Keith. I think Colby was the first reality show contestant to realize he was on a national TV show and kind of play up the hero thing. I'm not entirely convinced his reaction to Tina's win was entirely genuine. That kind of play has become an entirely legitimate strategy, as I wouldn't be shocked if Rupert has won more money than any other contestant despite never winning.</quote> 1. Kelly was NEVER winning Borneo. That vote was gonna be 6-1 until Sue started tearing into her and insulted Gervase in the process. 2. Girl power WAS a thing back in 2001 when Survivor was brand new and there WAS an undercurrent of thought that, after a perceived asshole (who was really just smug at his worst) like Richard Hatch won, that a man would always win Survivor. Again, given that this vote came down to Alicia (who really had no reason to like or hate either contestant), it's not impossible that she voted based on girl power in the face of this idea. Tina's win as a point in history is just too randomly convenient for me to 100% believe her to be an amazing player. I think she's reasonably smart and manipulative, but I think the circumstances revolving around Australia being an attempt to subvert the negatives of Borneo are the main reason her style of gameplay was able to find success. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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