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TopicCiel nosurge (in English) - A watchthrough topic *Spoilers*
Robazoid
02/21/17 3:59:15 AM
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Video progress: 127/252

I'm done chapter seven, so just in case there is anyone lurking here who doesn't already know the whole story, huge unmarked spoilers will be discussed below

I'm... not quite sure how I feel about that chapter yet (and as such I won't be doing any rankings). My feelings on Chapter Seven (and, by extension, my overall opinion of Ciel nosurge) will probably be decided by wherever the story goes next. I'm going to try and collect my thoughts below so I'm sorry if this winds up being a summary of something everyone here just recently watched

So, Ion is from another world, I understand that now (probably our world since they said she knew about lotus flowers, which are on our world). Nero is also from another, different world (because they said only Ion was missing from her world so it isn't the same place). I guess they discovered Nero in some lost technology and, for some reason, figured they should do the same thing, which resulted in Ion being pulled in. Meanwhile they were also injecting orphans with Nero's DNA for... some reason, which created Kanon. I'm clear on the past but I really don't understand how they got from there to the present.

I guess the Chimon got Kanon somehow, and since her Nero-DNA let her join with any genom they figured she'd be a good representative. However, I'm really struggling to understand how Ion, a being from another world, wound up being the Tenmon princess. It really seems like they didn't even prepare her before sending her out, and at several points it honestly felt like they were fully expecting her to fail. Hell, Renall gave the order to shoot her a few chapters ago! Sending her out there was a huge risk of a unique asset with no tangible reward that I can see. I hope they explain some of that.

Anyway, I'm not too worried about memory Ion. Nero said she was apart from the world's cycle of life and death so I imagine Ion will be immortal. However, I am extremely worried about the timeline. It was a neat moment when the screen was overtaken by static, I just hope they handle it well. I love time travel since it's a plot device that can really enhance stories... but if it's handled the wrong way it can also easily destroy them. And this wasn't a small change. Sarly and Zill founded that organization together so we're talking about changes going back years, long before the story began. If this isn't reverted or addressed, how can I know if any of the previous events happened? In a world where Zill and Sarly were cooperating, why would Shirotaka ever go to Four Seasons, for example?

I wrote a lot more about this than I thought I would, so I guess the short version is that I'm cautiously optimistic. If the story manages to stick the landing it'll be the best thing ever but if it fumbles this plot device it has the potential to irreversably ruin everything that already happened. Ugh, I want to watch more to find out but there are other things I need to do!

xp1337 posted...
***Post-Chapter 7 videos-but-not-Chapter-8-yet Spoilers***

Ion getting so depressed and broken at the end of the chapter that she refuses to talk with the player or even visit the Dream World is also a pretty amazing way to reinforce the framing device of the game as you interacting with a "real" other world and person who is experience and suffering their own issues. Also really hard to watch too.

Yeah, this was a good use of the framing device! As I said, I'm not too worried about memory Ion, but the feelings of non-memory Ion still struck me deep. Plus Renall is almost certainly dead and unless timeline shenanigans saved her Kanon's fate also isn't looking good... I'm worried about everyone except memory Ion, basically >_>
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