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ImagineUsngAlts posted...

"non-criminal" huh? So you can understand some groups that it's acceptable to make light of their deaths of but you want it to be government approved. You don't see the problem here?

I mean, I've already stated my personal standard - no mocking death, no exceptions - but I acknowledge that I'm not in the majority in holding that view.

But no, it has nothing to do with government approval. All of the people you named previous are people who used violence, rape, and murder to achieve their goals. Charlie Kirk did not. Whatever you think of his views - and they were vile, no arguments there - all he did was talk. Reasonable people should agree that that should not earn him a bullet to the throat.

ImagineUsngAlts posted...

Making light of horrible people's death is far less associated with MAGA and Republicans than gerrymandering is. At some point fire must be fought with fire.

"I don't want to behave like MAGA, I just want to do the exact same thing that they're doing." Are you even listening to yourself anymore?

ImagineUsngAlts posted...

And you are the person trying to go to bat for far right extremists by playing playing concern troll.

Wrong. I am trying to preserve whatever sanity is left on the American left, because the American right is very clearly a lost cause. Again, I find it frankly alarming that people in this topic seem to have absolutely no issue aping MAGA's behaviours, because of "fighting fire with fire" or some bullshit like that.

This will not give you any advantage. This will not return your country to sane governance. There is no gain to be had in behaving like a toddler with rage issues - not unless you want to slap on a red cap and go join the other guys.

Nothing about fighting MAGA and the far right behooves you to act like them. If anything, doing so gives them the ultimate victory, because it proves that their approach works and is the way that politics is supposed to be done. I hope I don't have to explain why that's a disastrous line of reasoning.

I am not doing this out of any concern for Charlie Kirk or any others of his ilk. I do not expect, nor want, anyone to venerate him or remember him as anything other than what he was - a hateful troll who learned, in his last moments on this plane of existence, that the hate and anger you send out into the world have a nasty tendency to get reflected back at you in ways you neither like nor expect. But perhaps that lesson is one that more people should take heed of - even those whose politics are diametrically opposed to Kirk's.

ImagineUsngAlts posted...

And Kirk died a preventable death because of his own hateful rhetoric and contributing to violent gun culture. Very similar situation.

Come on, dude, don't be obtuse. This is not the same situation and you know it perfectly well.

If Herman Cain Awards were awarded to people who got stabbed in the night by vigilante groups hunting down the unvaccinated, then you would have a similar scenario. That is not what happened.