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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...

I really wish Dooku was written far more... I dunno, tragic? Like, he talked warmly about Qui-Gon and he could have been written to have been this sort of ideal Jedi who saw the ways in which the Order was failing and became disillusioned with everything. In his state he was then at the mercy of Sidious, who takes advantage of his disillusionment. Like, I think that is what the IDEA behind his character was, but in the films you never see ANY of that. He speaks highly of Qui-Gon once and then beyond that is just a henchman until he outlives his purpose.

I like my Star Wars villains menacing, rather than tragic, so I always felt that Maul should have been the overarching "muscle" villain to the prequels, but I do admit that the *idea* of Dooku is intriguing. He sits at this weird intersection of Jedi and Sith, Republic and CIS, and that should have given him an interesting perspective, particularly as he's the first (chronological) fallen Jedi we see, which should have had implications for and/or some sort of meaningful interaction with Anakin.

Instead, he's completely fucking boring because he never does anything of substance.

Seriously, the complete failure to develop a compelling villain is one of the prequels' more significant flaws, and one I feel is often overlooked. The movies juggle between Maul, Dooku, and Grievous (by far the most bizarre of the bunch), and each one dies within half a movie of their introduction, ensuring they never get any real character development, nor any chance to build up a reputation of fear and notoriety in the audience.

SSj4Wingzero posted...

Knowing how Qui-Gon was characterized...he absolutely would have thought something was very suspicious about the Clone Wars if he were alive to see them.

Gonna be honest, I hate the structure of the Clone Wars, largely because of how dumb the set-up is and how pointless the whole thing feels. The Jedi stumble across a nearly-complete army of clones that were ordered in the name of a dead Jedi Master and made from a man seen to be in the employ of the Republic's enemies on a planet that has been deleted from the Jedi records, hinting at the involvement of someone exceedingly powerful and well-connected. Your average five-year-old could connect the dots that this is all a set-up.

There's also the oft-mentioned problems of scale (AotC puts the number of clones - who are supposed to be a fighting force so ubiquitous that the entire conflict was named after them - at 1.2 million; if they were a military force on Earth today, they wouldn't even crack the top 10 in terms of size, yet we're supposed to believe they're capable of defending a Republic that consists of hundreds if not thousands of inhabited worlds) and a distinct lack of dramatic tension (exactly why am I supposed to get invested in a conflict where both sides are comprised of infinitely-replaceable combat automata, all of which ultimately answer to the same guy? The Clone Wars are basically Palpatine playing a game of Warhammer 40k against himself).

I love your idea of Qui-Gon getting betrayed and murdered by Dooku before he can uncover the truth, but honestly if we're rewriting the prequels to actually be good, I'd argue the Clone Wars needs to be completely rewritten from the ground up.