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Topic	Does Biden bear any responsibility for people not wanting to vote for him?
LightningThief 04/25/24 11:12:46 AM #182:	cjsdowg posted... I fucking did GOTV. What did you do to get people out to vote ? This is about as useful to say as me saying I volunteer 15 hours a week at a soup kitchen. It's a cute fun fact that people can choose to take you at your word for, but it's proves nothing beyond pretty words. Its not actually useful in this discussion to claim you do whatever it is you claim you do. Your actions in this topic and plenty of past topics arguing both the Democrats and Republicans are both planning to hurt abortion rights, embrace Project 2025, equally hate Muslims, LGBT and more says far more. Criticism of how Democrats and Biden go about change isn't the problem at hand. It's the fact that you actively and repeatedly tell people not to vote in your roundabout "asking questions" why people shouldn't vote. Or how you played ignorant a few posts back trying to blame Biden for abortion rights going backwards. Or playing dumb that regardless if you like it or not, the next president of the United States will be Biden or Trump, and that all elections have consequences. With the latter (Trump) winning being objectively worse for anyone claiming to lean left. Regardless if the former (Biden) doesn't tick every box. Which again, you have a common theme of messaging on this board of why not voting for Biden, or voting 3rd party is an understandable smart option. With you classically telling these people they hold no accountability for their own actions in elections, regardless if they are madly in love with a candidate or not. Elections just like the 2016 election, has consequences. Consequences that can spill into other presidentcies if a party doesnt have the numbers in government to reverse it obstruction free. That includes the elections many people seem to forget about like local, House, Senate, etc. Those affect legislation as well. Voting is a marathon, not a sprint. Especially so in America with its 2 party system that like it or not only 2 candidates have any shot at winning, and one of the 2 will be worse than the other. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:980086407] in Does Biden... [t:80755138]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>I fucking did GOTV. What did you do to get people out to vote ?</quote>This is about as useful to say as me saying I volunteer 15 hours a week at a soup kitchen.It's a cute fun fact that people can choose to take you at your word for, but it's proves nothing beyond pretty words. Its not actually useful in this discussion to claim you do whatever it is you claim you do.Your actions in this topic and plenty of past topics arguing both the Democrats and Republicans are both planning to hurt abortion rights, embrace Project 2025, equally hate Muslims, LGBT and more says far more.Criticism of how Democrats and Biden go about change isn't the problem at hand. It's the fact that you actively and repeatedly tell people not to vote in your roundabout "asking questions" why people shouldn't vote. Or how you played ignorant a few posts back trying to blame Biden for abortion rights going backwards. Or playing dumb that regardless if you like it or not, the next president of the United States will be Biden or Trump, and that all elections have consequences. With the latter (Trump) winning being objectively worse for anyone claiming to lean left. Regardless if the former (Biden) doesn't tick every box.Which again, you have a common theme of messaging on this board of why not voting for Biden, or voting 3rd party is an understandable smart option. With you classically telling these people they hold no accountability for their own actions in elections, regardless if they are madly in love with a candidate or not. Elections just like the 2016 election, has consequences. Consequences that can spill into other presidentcies if a party doesnt have the numbers in government to reverse it obstruction free. That includes the elections many people seem to forget about like local, House, Senate, etc. Those affect legislation as well.Voting is a marathon, not a sprint. Especially so in America with its 2 party system that like it or not only 2 candidates have any shot at winning, and one of the 2 will be worse than the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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