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hop918 posted...

Nah according to your original point the water isn't a part of his natural arsenal so he's cheating.

Godzilla doesn't bring the water to the opponent though. He brings the opponent to the water. It's the difference between smacking someone's head against the wall and picking up a blunt instrument to hit them with.

hop918 posted...

That's not where we started, it's where we got to after you push the goalposts a bit but definitely not where we started.

I acknowledged that Godzilla and Kong both have made makeshift weapons out of trees and rocks. I stated very clearly that they made Kong entirely dependent upon an external weapon and they did.

The very first time I use the word weapon in this post is as follows:

FortuneCookie posted...

For the record, in all three fights, Kong has not had gainful offense against Godzilla except by relying upon a weapon.

Besides, even if you want to argue that Godzilla "cheated" against Kong by dragging him into the water, it doesn't change the fact that Kong had already been subject to the ultimate invalidation in that fight. Kong hit Godzilla with his best shot. Godzilla answered back with a shot that knocked Kong on his ass. And Godzilla was about to kill Kong with a single fiery blast before the military intervened on Kong's behalf.

It doesn't get much clearer than that. Godzilla took his best shot, answered back with a better one, and would have ended the fight right there were it not for someone bailing Kong out.

Eventually you'll understand that these are portrayals of TOHO Kaiju and not piece for piece the same monster.

We're allowed to play by different rules from adaptation to adaptation? It's not just a natural extension of what would logically happen according to the established rules of monster interaction and their respective abilities?

Then that's an open admission that they chose to make Godzilla significantly stronger, more aggressive, just plain cooler, and all around more capable than Kong. They chose to Nerf Kong so that Godzilla could stand taller.