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emblem-man posted...

But Palestinians do have something to lose. They've lost 30k lives in just the last few months. Civilians absolutely have something to lose. If Hamas cares about those lives, that should matter.

People should absolutely put pressure on Hamas (those im Gaza and those leaders outside Gaza) and supporting countries to release the hostages.

I think you misunderstand the dynamic here?

After 30k, they have nothing to lose. They're facing literal famine and genocide. Netanyahu has basically printed 30k recruitment posters for hamas.

It's weird and it's sick, but every dead Palestinian makes hamas look more like the only alternative to death for these people, because there's no Palestine to go back to. Israel literally annexed their capital. (I think that was posted above.)

Putting pressure on hamas only works if there's leverage or something to lose. This is hamas's strongest bargaining position right now because they get recruits, and even if they don't, the backlash will isolate Israel and leave it vulnerable to its neighbors.

Dial back the pressure on hamas for now. Stop the genocide. The less you push on hamas, the less power they would seem to have. And then you come in and end them because people whose lives aren't massive piles of suck are so much less likely to turn to terrorism. And without that flow of anger (and thus recruits) they lose whatever mandate they pretended to have.

Also elections. Free and fair elections in Palestine would help as soon as Israel stops the famine and genocide, too. Because when the Palestinians are safe (as safe as they get with Israel as an overseer, anyway), it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to remind people that hamas are the bad guys and not the last line of defense against Israel. The votes will turn toward not-hamas at that point.