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reincarnator07 posted...

My apologies for missing this.

Direct observation isn't the only way to test a claim. The example the other poster brought up of the discovery of Neptune is actually a great one. We observed its effects before we observed the planet itself. Black holes are another great example, Einstein predicted them nearly 50 years before we were able to observe their effects and it was another 50 years before we could directly observe them.

The skies would have been here before the Earth, regardless of whether you include the sun. We have directly observed stars over twice as old as Earth.

For the prophet cracking the moon, you can't seriously tell me that no one else across the world would have recorded such an event. Tons of cultures across the world have worshipped the moon in many forms. We all see the same moon.

Nowhere does it say God made Earth first and then he made heaven. It says that he made all that is on Earth (as in things on Earth and not THE Earth itself) and then turned to Heaven. How could he return to Heaven if he hadnt created it in the first place? The only possible explanation is that Earth and heaven were already created.

second, the verse doesnt talk about creation of heaven. It talks about dividing heaven that was ALREADY created. How can God divide something hasnt created already?

when referring to the heavens it means he divided a single heaven into seven parts which correspond to the seven different layers of the stratosphere.

so in conclusion, God made things on Earth and then divided heaven into seven parts. This implies atmosphere around earth was formed after Earth was created.

regarding the moon splitting, a manuscript held dates around AD 621, held by the national digital library of India and British library shows the one of the kings of southern India (Cheraman Perumal) saw the splitting of the moon and was so astonished that he inquired about it to his priests. There are also various hadiths documenting the event in and around Arabia. Regarding the rest of the world, time differences would have made it nigh impossible to see the event due to it being daytime and for others would have been sleeping. Lastly, if we assume an omnipotent creator exists its possible that the event was revealed to a select subset of the population and not everyone.