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WingsOfGood posted...

I think it is more that what is popular mainstream for guys is curated both by the girls and the boys.
Any guy straying from that will be hit by labels like nerd, weirdo, etc from both sexes.

You will find most teenage cis guys have a vapid personality designed to maximize women liking them based on what they believe is curated. Those who don't are usually not successful (talking teenagers).

The thing about this is that while some of this is certainly true, most of this is STILL decided by guys. For example, stereotypical things like big dicks and shredded physiques, while obviously still valued by women, are actually valued more by MEN than women. You'll see more calling other people's dicks tiny or boasting about their own big dicks and calling themselves chads from guys than gals.

On the other hand, things like being romantic, being affectionate, being good with kids, that women also value a lot, are something men are much more likely to scoff or squirm at. A good example with teenagers: boy band pretty boys are obviously EXTREMELY popular among teenage girls, but they're far less popular among teenage boys, with far less boys wanting to emulate them. In fact, these kinds of dudes are considered cringe and "gay" by teenage boys.

ftr I do see this changing more and more in modern days though.