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Topic	PS5 has outsold XBOX Series X\|S 2 to 1
hereforemnant 02/10/24 4:30:42 PM #45:	Okay so I dig more digging on this, few things of note that are interesting: https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2022/10/10/microsoft-reveals-how-much-money-xbox-game-pass-rakes-in/?sh=2a8ac7a928b5 As spotted by TweakTown, the report notes that Microsoft generated $2.9 billion in global revenue from Xbox Game Pass on consoles last year. This figure doesnt include PC Game Pass. Its not clear how Game Pass Ultimate revenue factors in here either. However, Xbox Game Pass subscribers topped 25 million last year. Xbox Game Pass accounted for 18% of total Xbox revenue last year ($16.3 billion) and 23% of Microsofts games and services revenue ($12.6 billion). The figure is a drop in the bucket compared with Microsofts total revenue of $184.9 billion for the 2021 calendar year Xbox Game Pass accounted for just over 1.5% of the companys overall revenue over that period. (Microsofts fiscal year runs from July to June.) For what its worth, the report points out that Xbox Game Pass generated $60 million in revenue from Brazil in 2021. Intriguingly, the report also contains details on multi-game subscription services for consoles (per Google Translate) for Nintendo and Electronic Arts. It pegs those as $932 million for Nintendo Switch Online in 2021, and $356 million for Electronic Arts (presumably EA Play) on consoles. The numbers that sonic for instance has been listing, don't include PC Game Pass or how Ultimate factors into things, that changes things. I will honestly concede then that I can see how Phil says it's profitable now, because we were all under the assumption(to my knowledge) that those numbers included that, & were not just Xbox Series X\|S by themselves. Even if I didn't want to give Microsoft/Xbox the benefit of the doubt, I can't pretend that that doesn't make a huge difference & can be profitable if it's all included, even if the margin is slim. But otherwise, I had to find actual numbers elsewhere that prove the profitability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65vdMipCgk Someone linked that in a The Verge comment section, it shows quarterly earnings & info proving beyond a doubt that much to my chagrin, Game Pass as it stands now is profitable, & that video is like a year old or so. Sony might be outselling them 2:1 on consoles, & the whole ship is heading into an iceberg because of the doubt on what's really going to be exclusive anymore, but in this one case I was wrong. So anyways good talk --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:978768352] in PS5 has ou... [t:80693175]...</cite> <quote>Okay so I dig more digging on this, few things of note that are interesting: https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2022/10/10/microsoft-reveals-how-much-money-xbox-game-pass-rakes-in/?sh=2a8ac7a928b5<quote>As spotted by TweakTown, the report notes that Microsoft generated $2.9 billion in global revenue from Xbox Game Pass on consoles last year. This figure doesnt include PC Game Pass. Its not clear how Game Pass Ultimate revenue factors in here either. However, Xbox Game Pass subscribers topped 25 million last year.Xbox Game Pass accounted for 18% of total Xbox revenue last year ($16.3 billion) and 23% of Microsofts games and services revenue ($12.6 billion). The figure is a drop in the bucket compared with Microsofts total revenue of $184.9 billion for the 2021 calendar year Xbox Game Pass accounted for just over 1.5% of the companys overall revenue over that period. (Microsofts fiscal year runs from July to June.)For what its worth, the report points out that Xbox Game Pass generated $60 million in revenue from Brazil in 2021.Intriguingly, the report also contains details on multi-game subscription services for consoles (per Google Translate) for Nintendo and Electronic Arts. It pegs those as $932 million for Nintendo Switch Online in 2021, and $356 million for Electronic Arts (presumably EA Play) on consoles.</quote>The numbers that sonic for instance has been listing, don't include PC Game Pass or how Ultimate factors into things, that changes things. I will honestly concede then that I can see how Phil says it's profitable now, because we were all under the assumption(to my knowledge) that those numbers included that, & were not just Xbox Series X\|S by themselves. Even if I didn't want to give Microsoft/Xbox the benefit of the doubt, I can't pretend that that doesn't make a huge difference & can be profitable if it's all included, even if the margin is slim. But otherwise, I had to find actual numbers elsewhere that prove the profitability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65vdMipCgkSomeone linked that in a The Verge comment section, it shows quarterly earnings & info proving beyond a doubt that much to my chagrin, Game Pass as it stands now is profitable, & that video is like a year old or so. Sony might be outselling them 2:1 on consoles, & the whole ship is heading into an iceberg because of the doubt on what's really going to be exclusive anymore, but in this one case I was wrong. So anyways good talk --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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