That said, people who say abortion is murder are no more correct than people who say fetuses aren't "living."
it's not that they aren't living, it's just that they don't count for purposes of murder
animals are definitely more developed and more sentient than a fetus but the vast majority of these pro-lifers are not vegan. I just reject that whether the thing is alive is their actual argument, since it's easy to find areas where they get inconsistent real quick.