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TopicKatawa Shoujo is out!
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01/15/12 9:03:00 PM
#225:


Oh hey, it's been a week and a half and I can reasonably expect almost everyone to have finished reading.

Shizune and Lilly route SPOILERS for the rest of this post.

I dislike Shizune route. And for a while I've known why and just never shared why: it feels like someone didn't think it through. That simple.

Phase posted...
Addition: Also, after making the obviously bad choice, the bad end isn't particularly the greatest and while the general take-away message for that bad end makes sense, the particular circumstances... don't.

Also there's something I didn't like about the first H scene of that route but I can figure out no way of bringing it up without spoiling it, so yeah. I'll bring it up after more people have finished all the routes. (doubly so after getting a bit into Lilly's route where my suspicion's confirmed)


Okay, like, I understand "cheating on your girlfriend with her best friend" cannot end well. That's kind of... a given? I mean, duh. "Don't cheat on your girlfriend with her best friend because it turns out she's bi and actually hot for her and it WASN'T continuing to be incredibly awkward at all this entire time and you'll as if you should give them space to resolve their problems and this will cause you to grow distant from your girlfriend" is kinda... wut?

As for the first H scene, Shizune acts incredibly stupid during it. Shizune KNOWS Hisao has a problem (she sees the pills during act 1 so it's either that or she thinks he's a drug dealer). She might not know it's a heart condition (I don't remember them ever discussing it even), but she she's a smart girl and KNOWS it's not something obvious and it's not something external. It's not a minor problem since he transferred in his senior year. That leaves heart, brain, and lung and she can be relatively sure it's not a brain problem. (Yamaku doesn't admit mental handicap and he has no obvious motor control problems) That leaves heart and lung, both of which are potentially fatal problems during sex. So WTF did she tie Hisao up effectively gagging him and leaving no way to tell her if he was having a problem? Even Hideaki (and he's essentially Shizune-lite) in Lilly's route after a grand total of one minute of knowing you figured out you have a heart problem.

There's also the fact that Shizune's route induces a lot of plot holes.

First, Tanabata is before summer break. Except it has to be after for Lilly's route to work. Whoops.

As I noted earlier, the reason Akira and Lilly are at the Hakamichi's is because it's Akira's last day in Japan and she wanted to spend time with Hideaki (Hideaki hangs out with Akira in Lilly's route too, so this is quite reasonable) and Lilly's obviously there to spend time with Akira (as a side note, Lilly doesn't go back to Scotland in Shizune's route, likely because without your influence Hanako probably worried her too much). Except, Shizune's gotta know this and in that context acting "normal" towards Lilly is being a complete and total jerk.

And just because that isn't enough, Iwanako's letter comes after summer break. Except every route but Rin's concludes before summer break and in Rin's route it comes before summer break as well. Though in Rin's route there's a minor timing problem since it comes before mid-June and Hanako's birthday is July 10th, meaning the party was early July and in Hanako/Lilly's routes the letter arrives then, but that's literally ONE throwaway line you'd never notice that could've easily changed to early July (or Hanako's birthday could be changed to a date in mid-June) with no consequences and as far as I can tell there's no timing cue in Emi's route.

To fix Shizune's route would require changes all around, so it's definitely not a coordination problem...

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