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TopicHey guys, I'm a New Atheist and I've just disproved God.
BoshStrikesBack
10/21/11 6:48:00 AM
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If we track the activity of the brain in some way, now or in the future we will find similarities in brain patterns between someone who "believes in science" and "believes in religion"

...Okay? I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. We're talking about the relations of ideas rationally, not how the brain happens to comprehend them.

...Why wouldn't it prove a god, if it's a universe where god existed? Why couldn't there be a function or a space for a god? Note that I'm talking about a god.

Because every single erudite religious person will tell you that God transcends empirical existence.

Nietzsche didn't know about Turing machines, tegmarkian universes and Godel's incompleteness theorem. So he already doesn't know what a human mind, a reality or logic is! I sincerely doubt he can teach me more about the limits of the human mind than hours of reading neurosci journals.

This isn't an argument, newbie; it's an arrogant appeal to ignorance. Either you're going to take this seriously, or you should opt out while you're ahead (relatively speaking). I mean hell, I'm giving you the Nietzsche to read; it's not like you have to go out of your way!

Fine then, we'll just ignore all this talk about "likely" and just look to the systems which reaps apples.

Again, going back to my earlier point: you have to establish why "truth" and "predictability" (or in this case, reformulated, "productivity") are synonymous. Give me a rational account.

Because that is how we act. Our brains may be very good at deceiving us into believing certain untrue things but it certainly won't let us act in a manner disadvantageous to its survival (usually) so it RATIONALIZES.

Yes, it does rationalize- often in the way of falsehoods. Which is why I'm not leaning upon the hardwiring of the primal brain as the crux of my argument.

As Nietzsche correctly points out, "truth" (i.e. laughably limited human truth, a mix of induction and deduction) is actually making a comeback against the traditional truth-falsehood mix, as pursuers of truth have proven themselves not just capable of survival and reproduction, but of acquiring great power.

I cannot make heads or tails of this sentence.


Not too complicated, but I'll try again. Our brain has been hardwired for survival, not truth; accordingly, because not all truth is conductive to survival, our hardwiring contains a mix of truths and falsities.

You remember that big, italicized post a while back? Re-read it if you want to understand what I mean.

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