I've concluded that talking to you is a dead loss.
What a surprise.
You're trying to argue with an imaginary version of me who is making all the standard philosophical arguments for science (using the terms that THEY USE instead of the terms that I USE), not trying to make sure you understand my position before you started attacking it.
As I've said several times now, your views are highly derivative and are highly unoriginal. There's nothing wrong with this; we all borrow and combine different beliefs from different thinkers. But in framing your beliefs within the tradition from which it has arisen, I'm hardly mischaracterizing or weakening it; if anything, I'm making it *stronger*.
Nevertheless, none of my central arguments have much to do with placing your views within an historical tradition. If you'd like me to treat what you believe as a special snowflake philosophy, then by all means I'll oblige.
You do not try and engage with the other party in a meaningful fashion. You do not try and go beyond simple contradiction. You do not try and make yourself clear to the other party.
This is all rather unfair. I've been very patient and rather respectful, especially compared to most serious debates I get into. What you need to learn is how to grow a thicker skin. Professional disagreements like this are common in every field, whether it's philosophy or law or business or anything else. If you have objections to things I've said, then clarify; bowing out of a discussion you've heavily invested yourself in, especially while it's still on-topic and hasn't become too personal, just shows a weakness of either will or intellect.
Maybe you'll think of this as a triumph, but you have failed to change the other party's mind, failed to convey any new information and failed address the point the other person was making.
This isn't a triumph; assuming things end now (and I'd prefer if they didn't), it was a waste of my time, and a testament to the problems with giving philosophical novices like yourself too much credit. I was never hoping to change your mind; rather, I was hoping to simply reveal brunt truths about your position's inconsistencies and allow you to deal with them as you deemed fit. Truth over persuasiveness, in other words.
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