From: Westbrick | #098
@Panthera: Assuming America employed some sort of state-church split in regards to partnerships, how would you feel about keeping the word "marriage" out of civil unions? Would it bother you if gays were not "married" (though they retained all legal rights) unless they could find a church that got on board?
Yes, because I don't believe that "marriage" is inherently religious. I don't have a problem (well, not too much of one) with churches defining their own style of marriage, only with the insistence that the government definition should be a religious one. You can have legal marriage and religious marriage both exist as concepts in society and recognize only the former if you want without it being a contradiction.
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Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved.