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Topic | Remember seeing this commercial when you were a kid? |
joe40001 10/20/23 11:27:32 PM #33 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZJSjrox_2s
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Topic | Old Simpsons jokes you remember randomly part 4: Simpsons on Patrol |
joe40001 10/20/23 11:26:39 PM #166 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcsAUER1Ym8
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Topic | Some information about COVID Booster recommendations, fyi |
joe40001 10/20/23 11:00:47 PM #1 | I wanted to share a couple bits of information so people had them as a resource.
1. While the CDC is still recommending further boosters, something most people I've met don't seem to know is that the World Health Organization and many non-USA countries are no longer recommending additional COVID boosters for the non-elderly and those outside risk groups. They recommend the original 2 doses plus booster, but are not recommending a 4th dose outside of those risk groups. From the UK: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/3/AACZqoAAE9Pz.jpg Sources: World Health Organization Recommendation: https://www.who.int/news/item/28-03-2023-sage-updates-covid-19-vaccination-guidance Germany Recommendation: https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/en/coronavirus/faq-covid-19-vaccination.html Scandinavian Recommendation: https://www.krisinformation.se/en/hazards-and-risks/disasters-and-incidents/2020/official-information-on-the-new-coronavirus/vaccination-against-covid-19/when-is-it-my-turn 2: Based on the CDC hospitalization rates from Spring 2023, the number of COVID-19 hospitalizations prevented per million vaccine doses is:
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Topic | Hey Disney+, maybe don't show me fucking ads for later episodes... |
joe40001 09/18/23 4:53:36 AM #1 | of the show I'M CURRENTLY WATCHING.
Disney+ executives: "You know what the viewer of this show probably wants to see in their ads? MAJOR SPOILERS FOR THE SHOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY WATCHING!" Fuck you, Disney+. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Seriously Pfizer? |
joe40001 08/05/23 7:58:03 PM #34 | I have long ago learned that there are good faith people in the world and there are bad faith people in the world.
And no matter how much of a whine-fest the bad faith people throw up, they make themselves known by their inability to articulate a direct clear criticism/question. And such people are not worth anybody's time. I am happy and capable to address any good faith discussion or explicit question somebody might have. I have no interest in indulging the nebulous whining of bad faith people. Figure out which group you belong to and then deal with it. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I saw the Barbie movie, it was actually fairly interesting. *SPOILERS* |
joe40001 08/05/23 7:51:09 PM #3 | TurtleInFreedom posted...
Honestly the whole Barbie/Oppenheimer juxtaposition was to rev up the film industry again after covid and Marvel/superhero genre fatigue. I think someone in the film industry did some good PR maneuvering to orchestrate the whole thing. Honestly, it might have been organic. But Barbie was a legitimately good "girl movie" and Oppenheimer was a legitimately good "guy movie" but also neither were perfect. It was an interesting pairing to be sure, but I appreciated both movies almost at the same level even though I'm like 100% in the Oppenheimer demographic and 0% in the Barbie one. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Seriously Pfizer? |
joe40001 08/05/23 7:47:05 PM #30 | hockeybub89 posted...
Seriously. Sane people in the industry scream to the heavens every day about the shenanigans of Big Pharma, insurance, and for-profit healthcare and get silence from the right. Actual things that actually hurt or kill patients and healthcare providers. hockeybub89, you are interesting. Because while I do think your are kinda probably living a life that often swims in a twitter storm of murky angry confusion, I don't think you are bad faith. I'm curious, legitimately, what do you think of that testimony? --- Alternatively, I'd be curious to hear what you think I think by making this topic, because I'm almost 100% sure it's way off. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I saw the Barbie movie, it was actually fairly interesting. *SPOILERS* |
joe40001 08/05/23 7:40:11 PM #1 | Any narratives that argue it's misandrist are erroneous IMO. While it does explore the difficulty of being a woman, it does a pretty good job of doing so not at the expense of men.
At the periphery it acknowledges that men are just struggling to find meaning for themself which I think was great. And honestly, even thought the Barbie movie is going to get more flack I feel like movies like the Mary Sue movies of the late 2010s were much less respectful to men than this movie. And ultimately it's not a movie about men, it's about women, and though I cannot give a perfect perspective on that, it seems to do a good job exploring the whole ideas of femininity. In short, for what it was going for, I think it did a really good job. DISCUSS --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Seriously Pfizer? |
joe40001 08/05/23 6:42:05 PM #1 | Even if you are a devout supporter of Pfizer I hope you'd agree they should answer direct questions. This is frustrating to watch IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN4o3lJR0yM --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | There are no good billionaires |
joe40001 07/12/23 9:06:23 PM #13 | There are no good billionaires: False All billionaires are in some way evil: Probably True because all people are probably in some way evil, even if they would not be characterized as evil. If good/evil are on a non discrete dimension then it's effectively infinitely improbable that a person could be 0% evil. IMO --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | In Jurassic Park 1..........? Spoilers? |
joe40001 07/12/23 9:03:04 PM #15 | Agent_Stroud posted... Linux was developed from Unix if I recall correctly. Considering how much I use Linux, I should know this. I think unix is the command line only version of linux. So basically unix is to linux as MS-DOS was to OG Windows. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | In your average month how good/bad are your best/average/worst days out of 10?? |
joe40001 07/12/23 9:01:25 PM #4 | [LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's 9 numbers Just the first 3 if you're lazy --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | In your average month how good/bad are your best/average/worst days out of 10?? |
joe40001 07/12/23 8:55:26 PM #1 | In the past month, out of 10: How good was your best day: How good/bad was your average day: How bad was your worst day: Same question, but for when you were 20 years old: How good was your best day: How good/bad was your average day: How bad was your worst day: Same question, but for when you were 10 years old: How good was your best day: How good/bad was your average day: How bad was your worst day: You don't have to think about it took much, I'm just curious what life is/was like for most people. (5/10 means neither good nor bad) --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror Season 6 comes out tonight. Who is hyped? Spoiler for every season. |
joe40001 06/25/23 7:04:15 AM #140 | Just finished episode 5 2>1>5>>4>3 Though I will say only 3 of the 5 episodes really felt like black mirror episodes. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror Season 6 comes out tonight. Who is hyped? Spoiler for every season. |
joe40001 06/25/23 1:34:38 AM #138 | Just finished episode 4 So far 2>1>>4>3 --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Do any of you consider it "weak" for a guy to cry because of a movie |
joe40001 06/22/23 12:28:05 AM #26 | GranAures posted... No, emotions are not weakness. eh, if you can't control them, they basically are. If you can control when you let yourself be emotional then they aren't. They are healthy/responsible. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Question About Black Mirror S6E1 *spoilers* |
joe40001 06/22/23 12:25:06 AM #1 | When Michael Cera was giving his narrative level speech, what was happening on narrative level 0? (aka not a narrative level) --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror S6 E3: Beyond the Sea *spoilers* |
joe40001 06/22/23 12:23:01 AM #23 | Darkninja42 posted... He was grieving, isolated, depressed, not in a good state of mind, and rebuffed by someone he felt a new connection for. It made perfect sense and wasn't a stretch He didn't show any evidence of violent behavior at all before, or outbursts, furthermore he clearly acted out a plan. He did the murders and gave Aaron Paul the chair afterwards calmly, this was not an act of outrage, it was a deliberate plan/action that was totally inconsistent with his character. Him killing Aaron Paul and trying to take over his life makes sense with his character, but killing the family doesn't. He didn't think what happened to him was fair in any way, nor did he think it could be fair, so he wouldn't recreate what happened to him to aaron paul because he thought such an act is horribly unjustified. Saying "he's crazy" is lazy handwaving, and not how mental illness works. It clearly wasn't an outburst but a planned action, and so if the action was a planned action what was his goal? What was his point? This episode could have been fixed, in theory, with 30 seconds at the end where he says why he did it, but it would have been hard to write a convincing reason. But I'm guessing the writer didn't even have a reason and just went there for shock value. His character would have never acted like that, what's worse is that aaron paul shows up on the ship not full of rage. Unlike that guy, aaron paul has shown the ability to engage in violent outbursts so aaron paul might realistically just charge in there and attack. But he didn't, the end of the episode played out as if both characters understood what happened and why it happened and that it made sense, but it didn't make any sense: Nice guy who had been traumatized enacted a horribly violent plan for no reason. It was stupid. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Zendaya's new movie is going VIRAL |
joe40001 06/21/23 9:35:44 PM #47 | This topic feels like it was made by a bot for a studio. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror S6 E3: Beyond the Sea *spoilers* |
joe40001 06/21/23 9:33:33 PM #20 | Darkninja42 posted... I honestly thought he was gonna Josh was gonna kill Aaron's family immediately the first time he went there so the ending when it finally happened didn't surprise me. I didn't really mind the abrupt nature of it either. I mean at that point what else was there to really do? I like the ambiguity more than just "oh one of them kills the other and then he's fucked" ending But it was so stupid and didn't make sense and didn't fit with his character. What good is a surprise ending if it is narratively pointless and inexplicable? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Do any of you consider it "weak" for a guy to cry because of a movie |
joe40001 06/21/23 9:23:31 PM #10 | Generally I'd say no, but I'd put the rules like this: If we are playing the "tough guys don't cry, so don't cry" game, then yeah you are a bit weak if you can't help but cry. But there is nothing "weak" about having agency about when you allow yourself to express emotion and then engaging in such an expression. If you are allowing yourself to engage in emotions then being emotional is not weak, arguably it's strong because it shows you have control over yourself and your own volatility. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror S6 E3: Beyond the Sea *spoilers* |
joe40001 06/21/23 9:19:54 PM #17 | So far for me it's 2>1>>3 I had more fun with 1 than 2 and enjoyed it more but there was more in it that didn't hold up, and also it's commentary wasn't as biting as 2. 2 was on point with being pretty harsh on the messed up incentives of --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror S6 E3: Beyond the Sea *spoilers* |
joe40001 06/21/23 9:16:52 PM #16 | Just finished it. Major spoiler warning: Ok, that was a BS ending. I was bracing for the show to do the thing where Not Aaron Paul kills or strands Aaron Paul in space and then pretends to be him for the wife, and you get this morality question of "would the wife rather live a lie where her husband changed into somebody more caring or accept the truth that she's loving the man who murdered her husband in his body" I was sure the show was going that angle, and so I perked up when they did the fake out that it was going that way and instead aaron paul was let back in from space. I was so ready for that ending that I honestly thought they might have done the switcharoo in the previous time before they cut back to them exercising together. And when I saw what had happened I was like "WTF, how the hell are they going to explain or justify this?!? This just got super interesting. And then the episode just abruptly ends. Wtf? I was ready to roll my eyes a little or at least say "called it" when it went the more obvious route, but that obvious route would have still been a million times better than the bullshit route the did go. What he killed the family, ok so why? Because bwahaha? He was traumatized by what happened to his family, there was nothing about his character that reflected he would ever wish that kind of harm on anybody, let alone Aaron Paul who has been awesome to him, all things considered. It totally betrays his character up until that point. I expected and would have much preferred that we have several scenes with aaron paul in aaron paul body back at home, shit talking trauma guy, smashing trauma guy's painting, and being apologetically affectionate towards the wife. Then like we are a few scenes later of them having healed their relationship and like sitting on a porch together and then wife asks aaron paul something and it's clear aaron paul forgot some detail he should know if he were himself. And then wife is like "hey, you haven't needed to go up to the ship in a while." And Aaron paul is like "yeah, things up there have changed. It looked like it would be a problem, but everything worked out in the end." The like we pan up from earth and fly to space and go all the way to the ship looking in a window and we slowly navigate to not aaron paul in aaron paul's machine and aaron paul right beside it with his throat slit. You could even tease that pay off by having not aaron paul nick his neck while shaving. Yeah it's a bit of an obvious ending, but it would have been like a 7/10 ending, instead of what they gave which is like a 2.5/10 BS ending. What are other people's thoughts on this episode? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Black Mirror Season 6 comes out tonight. Who is hyped? Spoiler for every season. |
joe40001 06/17/23 7:37:21 AM #96 | Just watched episode 1 and loved it. Such a good show. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Fast food is kinda a scam these days huh? |
joe40001 05/31/23 1:34:57 PM #18 | Yeah almost all of fast food has like more than doubled in the past 10 years, which is pretty crazy. The only good value still around is BK's Dollar Menu. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Are David Lynch films always...weird? |
joe40001 05/31/23 1:33:57 PM #14 | Yes. The are bad and self-indulgent and when it comes to underlying meaning the proverbial emperor has no clothes. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 1:18:14 PM #156 | FolkenRawr posted... But that's still an *objectively* bad, and horrendously reductive take anyway.
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Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 1:12:50 PM #155 | toreysback posted... i am functionally ignorant as to how the algorith works. all i know is, i watch a million chess videos in a row, it suggests more chess videos. watch 1 political yt and half the feed is now politics. watch 2 and it's all politics It can get confused sometimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8fJPvXyfc0 --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 1:09:14 PM #151 | Tyranthraxus posted... No. In that last topic, I said that as far as I knew all republican laws that were being pushed around trans issues were targeted for children (under 18), somebody brought me the attention of one that could impact people up to age 26 (iirc). I admitted I was incorrect and altered my perspective accordingly. When was the last time you admitted you were mistaken? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 1:05:48 PM #150 | CyricZ posted... Because I'm curious as to how often in any given day you engage with other people. Software dev. We have an office, I get along well with people IRL. I think people on the internet might project some tone on top of my text that doesn't represent me. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:57:10 PM #145 | Antifar posted... Even treating these now third-hand anecdotes of vague unease as an issue, it seems to me that the problem they pose is miniscule in comparison to the impact of state efforts to wipe entire subjects of study This is interesting. I'd like to do a deep dive or discussion on this kind of thing at some point. I'm going to be honest I need to get some rest now. But I do think a back and forth about this could be informative/interesting for both of us. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:53:46 PM #144 | Gwynevere posted... All I found plastered on his Twitter feed after a bit of scrolling is "social media and cell phone bad" I mean if you incredibly oversimplify anybody's argument, it's not going to sound that great. That's kinda like saying: Yeah, I looked into this whole thermodynamics thing, and it seemed like basically "hot stuff moves weird" Not exactly the most groundbreaking additions to public discourse. The actual studies, trends, data, and insight he brings to that discussion are what's interesting, IMO. I mean, honestly, it's fine if it's not for you, your not interested, or you still don't find it compelling or whatever, but I do think you were being a bit reductive there. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Iconic Torrent Site Shuts Down, All Content Releases Stop |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:46:58 PM #31 | saspa posted... You got a better idea? It's easy, just get infinity streaming services! Then you can watch all of your favorite content ever! Except for movies/shows they don't provide. Or ones they've altered to align with modern sensibilities. Or ones they've George Lucas's for the fun of it. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:44:46 PM #141 | Antifar posted... There is some data that would suggest that actually, it does funnel people into more radical content I do think it will funnel you towards extremes, I'd have to do a deep dive on the study itself (https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3351095.3372879 ) before I think I'm personally willing to cosign that it only funnels right though. I'll grant that social media tends to funnel to more sensational content which often is more extreme. But for example I don't think yt will take a pretty far left person and try to funnel towards more moderate content. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | what's the context behind joenumbers? joe40001, etc. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:39:27 PM #5 | TaylorHeinicke posted... feel like he makes a topic as innocuous as any other on here, but he gets completely flamed and blown up for no reason If you figure it out, let me know. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:32:23 PM #132 | CyricZ posted... Does anyone know what Joe does for a living? This kind of question concerns me a bit tbqh. Why do you ask? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:31:34 PM #131 | Psuedo_Audacity posted... Nothing you say will have any impact on what Joe thinks. He'll say "interesting point" and the move on to repeat the same shit over and over because these topics aren't about discussion, they are about validating his thoughts. Particularly those curated by YouTube over the past decade. This is literally just a lie. Last time we had one of these topics I conceded a point and changed my mind in that very topic. Something that honestly is pretty uncommon on the internet, but I'll do relatively frequently when appropriate. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:28:41 PM #130 | emblem-man posted... Do you disagree? Idk, I want it to be overblown. It is possible, but every so often I'll hear some stories about a young kid coming home after a diversity class and asking something like "why can't I be friends with (their black friend)" because apparently the teacher like separated kids based on race and the kids didn't get the point, or research grants in math/sciences fields that are getting rejected for inadequate DEI statements, or just second hand stories from people I trust who are talking about dozens of people who talk to them in confidence about the chilling effects on their campuses. I do feel a chilling feeling in the air, but maybe that's all a delusion of social media hyping up every culture war, or maybe it just feels like that until the day that something BS happens to me. Idk, there are definitely some things that concern me, but I'm always trying to keep myself in check with reality. Still IMO I do think I feel the like society is in a kind of uniquely bad place and this culture war stuff is not helping. And also ignoring it or pretending it's not their probably doesn't help things. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | To the people trying to harass me over that 10+ year old off site crap... |
joe40001 05/31/23 12:17:14 PM #1 | @Bullet_Wing @Heartomaton @Wandering__Hero (A few others that I forgot) Even though I'm basically certain you are all just fishing for drama, I'm sick of you or your alts or whoever trying to derail topics I'm in, so I'm going to respond once and then move the fuck on: The entire premise of that community was that it was not a serious community, it was competitive edgelords for attention, and it was understood that every post was not serious. I would have not participated otherwise. That many years ago my brother had very recently killed himself, I had severe chronic depression, and crippling social anxiety. I never never never never never never never wanted to do anything wrong socially, morally, or otherwise, so rather than risk doing anything wrong IRL I stayed in the safety of internet interaction and played along with a community which insisted "none of this is serious, this is all just ephemeral screwing around and edgy jokes". Most everybody played by those rules and as a kinda anything goes place it was disarming for somebody with such severe anxiety. But it had a flipside where if you wanted social engagement you had to say outrageous shit. It wasn't the place for authenticity, it was at its best a haven for irreverence. And in some moments in that way, it wasn't that bad. Would I, in my severely depressed and mentally unwell state, have been tons better served with real friends or emotional support from my family or serious mental health help from professionals? Absolutely! Did I have that? NOPE! I was extremely miserable and alone, and I had one major social outlet which was this place where nothing was serious. And it was all pretend on computers, so what's the harm, right? It was like playing cards against humanity, everybody understood it wasn't in any way serious. Not in my wildest dreams did I think anybody was taking anything seriously, if I did I wouldn't have said anything then. And not in my wildest wildest dreams did I think that a handful of the people at that time who were saying n-words and also laughing as hey told depressed people to self-harm would then later start trying to harass some others off-site for over a decade. And not in my wildest wildest wildest wildest wildest wildest dreams did I think that these people who back then were throwing around racial slurs, telling depressed people to self-harm, and just being recreationally cruel would harass for over a decade across websites, AND be empowered by complete strangers on this site who have nothing to do with any of it, but regardless keep trying to start something as if I'm not a human with feelings. To the people I @'d (and the ones I forgot who are also spamming this): You are joining a few sad individuals in an over a decade old harassment campaign over a severely depressed recently traumatized mildly ASD's kid attempts to fit in with a bunch of edgelords because I thought we were all playing pretend. It's literally taking somebody's "Cards against humanity" answers from over 10 years ago and taking them seriously in the modern day to try to character assassinate them. It's messed up. It's absurd. And what's more is that you either don't know what you are doing or don't care. You seem to be just fishing for drama, and I guess you tell yourselves they aren't doing anything wrong by participating in this harassment campaign. But you are. It is just a generally shitty thing to do, and furthermore, I don't know if you noticed, but I don't have a fucking time machine, so I don't know how you expect me to undo edgy statements from over a decade ago. You bring it up as if it defines my character now, but it didn't even define my character then, because the whole premise of the community was that none of it was serious. You want me to renounce it? Sure! I renounce it now, I renounced it then by virtue of me not being ever serious in the first place. It's stupid pretend edgelord shit from over a decade ago, and I'd really appreciate it if you stopped harassing me with it. I'll be honest though, I doubt any of the people spamming it will change your ways, you seemingly don't care if it is bs or if it causes me emotional distress, that's probably part of the fun, I guess. But at least now I've addressed it, I've explicitly moved on, and so future harassment attempts will be even more overtly transparent, and maybe some itty bitty part of your conscience might make you take pause and dial it back one fucking iota, because NGL, it is really getting old. --- PS: If you bring it up again in any random topics I will mark you and block you. Also I'm not going to say anything further in this topic. I said my piece, I'm done with this subject for good. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 10:27:32 AM #113 | emblem-man posted... Yes in think it's largely overblown. I don't think it's something most people encounter in daily life and I think the discourse ends up creating unnecessary fear and chilling effect in some people about how "you can't say this in 2023", etc. BTW, thanks for this response. I missed it the first time, but I found it very interesting. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 10:25:04 AM #112 | emblem-man posted... It was interesting a couple years ago but I've come to my opinions about these topics, opinions that I think are pretty consistent. I just have little interest in diving back into the discource Fair enough. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 10:23:15 AM #111 | hockeybub89 posted... I reiterate And like I said, that is not an accurate representation of my position. Apparently that is how you are hearing it. But that's not what I'm saying. Idk, it feels like you are taking something I said and just kind blurring it into something I'm not at all saying. You'll take me saying something like "It's worth hearing perspectives from those you disagree with politically" and twist it into the kind of things you are saying above. And I can't tell if you are doing that deliberately, or if that's literally just how it sounds to you to entertain alternative perspectives. In all seriousness, and I'm not criticizing but genuinely asking, in your mind is it cut and dry? There are like good people with nothing but good views, and evil people who don't have a single good faith criticism or point? And so any time you hear somebody say "let's be open to the possibility there might be valid perspectives we haven't considered" it just sounds to you like "let's be open to the possibility that evil is good"? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 10:14:41 AM #108 | hockeybub89 posted... No, I do not find discussing the finer points of white supremacy to be interesting, no. Who said I was advocating that? Because I wasn't. You claim to be about discussion and "refinement" yet you clearly think there are correct ways to communicate, correct ways to think, and you absolutely refuse to deviate. You don't appreciate the human element of communication anyway given given how cold and emotionless you believe it should be. I have beliefs about optimal ways to communicate. I believe they are right, but also recognize that I am not a universal authority, I understand others will think other ways are better and I would not deny them the right to think their way is better, even if I disagree. You've told LGBTQ people to their faces that the bigotry lobbied against them is not so bad, that there is room for refinement, that clearly it isn't as bad as it sounds, that there must be some validity to the concerns of the bigots and we would all understand each other and come to a middle ground if we just smoothed out the language That is is not an accurate representation of my claims or perspective. I shudder to imagine your posts if CE existed in the 1940s. This is a common and frankly lazy tactic to suggest that those you disagree with politically would conveniently be on the evil side of history, even though it's a total strawman. If we were to play that game I would point out how I'm against censorship and against authoritarianism. I could score more points relative to you if we played that game further, but I really don't want to as I find it to be a bad faith exercise and one that has no relationship to reality. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 10:04:32 AM #106 | CyricZ posted... All this is saying is "I'm not responsible for the things I post." That is not what that says. It's trying to pretend that you as a person are not a factor in these discussions. That you exist outside of them. It is true though. Ideas exist outside of people. You did not pick this video at random. You selected it and presented it to us. I listened to video discussions as I played video games last night, this one stood out to me as an interesting discussion that I'd be curious if anybody here was interested in and if so what they thought. You as a person are a part of this process. Only in so far as I am the one saying the words I am saying. But those words and ideas are independent of me, and are not tied to my character. Further, it seems readily apparent that many have a warped if not completely false understanding of my character, and seeing as I'm no telepath I likely have an inaccurate view of many of the people's here character too. All the more reason that discussions are about ideas and not inferences on motives and projected characterizations of the speakers. If you want your own history as a person to be completely detached from the discussion, post under a different account. That's ridiculous. A true statement remains true regardless of who says it, same for false statements. Words and ideas are not tied to people, and a person rejecting a valid thought because it comes from somebody they enjoy being rude to is doing themselves a disservice and is not one who deserves to be pandered to. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 9:55:26 AM #98 | Fluttershy posted... Also IMO you are doing yourself a disservice by making such broad judgements of a person Fair enough. I apologize. I should have probably phrased that better. But I wouldn't be so worried about youtube propagandizing you. The feed is based around what you like, it's not like it's going to push an agenda on you. The only way you'll get recommended videos by somebody is if you like a lot of their or similar content. I watch all kinds of stuff on youtube, and my feed does pretty good on settling down on only the stuff I consistently like/watch. Even so, if you are that worried you can also watch in incognito or just delete it from your watch history afterward. Also, I am legitimately curious, is there anybody you'd name who you'd think of as politically independent but not far-right or alt-right? Or in other words, somebody you've seen challenge the left on some things but not a person you'd call far-right or alt-right? Do you think Jon Stewart is alt-right? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | Many 'classic' SNL skits are not even funny |
joe40001 05/31/23 9:45:27 AM #28 | I agree, TC. A lot aren't. I would say Cowbell is funny in premise. But lots of ones based on catchphrases weren't. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 9:41:12 AM #94 | emblem-man posted... Similar opinions I'd say. Sick of hearing about it? Do you also think it's largely overblown? And/or it's just not something that you've encountered in your life at all? Skimmed and stopped at a section where Coleman said his friend from college would take down his Reagan poster after the first couple dates, but then would bring it back up if he thought the date was special and serious. You might be doing them a disservice by assuming their claim, but idk I think that anecdote is kind of interesting, don't you think? I pretty strongly dislike Reagan because a lot of horrible modern problems are downstream from his empowering of big capitalism, but the idea of somebody who is legitimately a fanboy of Reagan hiding his picture out of fear during dating is interesting. Is he wrong to hide that if he does really identify with Reagan? Is he being reasonable hiding that because almost all dates would react badly? Aside from "Reagan bad" there isn't a clean right answer to that story. It might point to an uptightness in modern society that wasn't there before. But what specifically does that uptightness mean for society and where does it come from are also interesting questions IMO. You don't find the idea that a person might be deeply afraid about being judged on politics when dating to be interesting? Unwarranted or not it's interesting that for some people they are really scared of such things, IMO. What do you think? Do you think all of this politics/culture/uptightness and everything is just a big nothing burger? Or like maybe it does point to some underlying stuff but you've already heard a bunch of conversations and so like why bother with another one? It seems to me like you don't find it as interesting as me, not sure why. And you don't have to elaborate further if you don't want to, but I would be curious to hear your further thoughts. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 9:29:08 AM #89 | Fluttershy posted... I'd be curious about the thoughts of anybody else who checks it out. Also IMO you are doing yourself a disservice by making such broad judgements of a person off of video titles alone, though I give you credit for distinguishing a video he appears in where he very well might be challenging or debating the premise of the video title with him necessarily believing the video title as his claimed philosophy. I'm curious, based on your response to him, who is somebody you'd consider to be politically independent? So a non-democrat who you'd consider independent and not "alt-right" or "far-right"? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 9:16:40 AM #84 | Antifar posted... At what point are we allowed to move together? I'd say after just about every good faith discussion people move closer together. (Forgive me, I'm not saying this is what you are saying, but) If the question is "when do people shut up and fall in line"? That's a different thing. Some people will never agree with even super basic things. Some people will change their minds hugely on major things. The best we all can do is just discuss and grow closer to an ever improving and helpful understanding of objective reality. So often these "good faith discussions" take the form of rehashing long-settled topics. Dead and discredited ideas - climate change denial, bigotry, trickle-down economics - get propped up Weekend at Bernie's style in our discourse. That's not so we might sharpen our rhetorical blades against them, but to stifle our ability to move on to new subjects and make concrete progress on issues. I wouldn't characterize it like that. I don't think indulging in obstructionist thought experiments is that common, nobody has to discuss where they don't want to, that said exasperation is not evidence. Sometimes people say "look, quit disagreeing, the truth is self-evident" because the truth is self-evident and the people disagreeing are being annoying, and sometimes a person says "look, quit disagreeing, the truth is self-evident" because they have a blind-spot in the shortcomings of their own perspectives. I have sympathy for people's emotions. And nobody has to engage in any conversation if they don't want to, particularly if it is emotionally taxing. Even so, IMO real serious good faith discussions should still happen about important issues (and also less important ones too). It sounds to me (and correct me if I'm wrong) that maybe you think the motives of most people who engage in discussions on important issues are just being obstructionist, and that "good faith" discussion is just a bad faith tactic to stall helping people in need of help. Is this at all what your perspective is? --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
Topic | I thought this was an interesting political discussion. |
joe40001 05/31/23 8:53:40 AM #80 | emblem-man posted... Is the discussion different than what a regular Sam Harris or Coleman Hughes video is? Those topics have been discussed...a lot by people like Hughes, Harris, "IDW" adjacent already. Interesting. I don't find Harris and Hughes interchangeable at all. Do you? I guess I'd say that conversations between the exact same groups of people about similar topics will be similar, but this group has some people I knew and some people I didn't, and they got into specific events and also data on things I hadn't heard before. As far as if it's different... not sure... I mean I guess it depends how low resolution you want to be. Are all "technology is bad for mental health" conversations kinda the same and thus kinda played out? Same question about campus politics or all the other stuff? I mean it sounds like you are at least familiar with a fairly diverse perspective on lots of these issues. And I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. But also I'd be interested in somebody who isn't really exposed to conversations like these and what their thoughts are. And part of why I shared it was that I just found it interesting. Not like THE MOST INTERESTING THING EVER, but like interesting and also calm and civil in a way that I think some people here might find palatable. I don't think I agree with Coleman on everything, but he seems like a pretty decent person and not somebody aggressive in debate, while still being firm in conversation. I'd be legitimately interested in what people on CE think of him, or the conversation in general. I worry about making it about any one person or idea though. Because the more simple you make it, the more somebody can just google "Simple Thing is actually really bad, Huffingtonpost" and then just spam a link in here and derail everything. People might not believe it, but I honestly just like hearing different perspectives, and if I hear an interesting discussion that I'm kind of on the same page with, I'd be very curious what somebody who is skeptical of the discussion's claims would bring up as the faults. Knowing that would both be interesting and help me see blindspots I might have. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif |
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