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Obellisk posted...

I'm asking you to answer the question though.

Ok. But I cant exactly answer it since I am not sure you arent scum.
I can say that the way you venomously fought back against some arguments day1, that those remind me more of townbell than scumbell. But thats about it.

Obellisk posted...

why am I not scum.

I dont recall saying you werent.

Its a claim I cant blame you for making, if its true

Obellisk posted...

death. you there?

Aye

Also NO WAY Corrik allows anyone to delay his target if he thinks he has scum dead to rights.

Corrik now is the time to take your claim back

Also NO WAY Corrik allows anyone to delay his target if he thinks he has scum dead to rights.

Obellisk posted...

So Corrik is ok with kirby blocking wallz = wallz scum
and him blocking Blade which = blade scum

since no kills occurred.

can both be true?

No way town gets 2 blockers

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Me

....
To be honest I dont know why I forgot you.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're forgetting someone

Corrik?
he put himself under threat lol

Kirby's claim does conveniently explain away the post I specifically mentioned disliking

I just expected Kirby to vote Wallz first thing. But looking back he did mention wallz as his top suspect at least.

I will say that If Wallz IS scum backup, that changes a lot.

I mean Corrik still looks like a liar, but not a towny one.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Oh, well no, but he also didn't really attack Blade the way he should if he was truthful imo.

You mean the way Kirby is not attacking Wallz?

ctesjbuvf posted...

I agree that backup can be confirmable, but I probably wouldn't emphasize it if I was backup.

It is at least a role I would freely claim and not fear being shot by scum since I wouldnt be a threat yet

Corrik didnt immediately take back his claim when Blade countered it

ctesjbuvf posted...

I am not good at reading Corrik and his bluffs, he is definitely firmly in the poe. Blade immediately countered the claim though and Corrik didn't bother insisting it was true. Made it clear to me it wasn't serious.

Yehabuwhasjkf

Corrik did no such thing!

ctesjbuvf posted...

I didn't take anything Corrik said about blocking Blade seriously tbh.

Not your question to answer tho

Obellisk posted...

scum backup

The thought crossed my mind.
But why would he claim backup then?

I am more curious if Wallz acted tried to use his power on Lopen

As for Kirby.
Do you expect other protection on towns side?

Obellisk posted...

Blade claimed power
corrik claimed power
fd hinted power
changs claimed power
kirbys about to claim power
mzeros player slot claimed power

I missed FD hinting at power
Everyone else I feel has at least had a reason to claim power.
Or so they say

TotallyNotMI posted...

I kind of agree that I think way too many people are outing themselves here.

But I'm also a slut for claims so...

Only people under threat of votes or actions have claimed so far
And Ulti

Oh yeah red, why am I town according to you?

Thats sensible.
Ulti calling himself townlocked is just what Ulti would do regardless

PeaceFrog posted...

Lmao

Well good work everybody. Have a great evening. We should all be proud of what we've accomplished in the last 48 hours.

I still dislike this comment

Its a weird typo. But weird in a NAI way

ctesjbuvf posted...

I didn't really defend him though. I specifically said that being nervous of being lynched isn't a point against new town in itself because this board of players that has played in ages tend to forgot how players just want to live, and I am pretty sure that was while I was catching up. Then I distanced myself from all talk about him because a lot of the talk was unpleasant and shouldn't be in game. Later I seconded Ulti's case against his claim and found a contradiction he made and was confident we found scum.

That said I will credit you for unvoting wallz later. And that point was more about Kirby anyway

ctesjbuvf posted...

##vote: Death

No but this should.

Lol

ctesjbuvf posted...

I was told my votes will not count for all of d2. I was actually surprised no one reacted to it for a while.

Oh yeah. Did you prove this yet?

Overall Bens defense of Knightz looks less weaselly than Changmas
His reason of 'Knightz will prove himself town if town' is inherently useless as a scumpartner defense when Knightz cant do what Ben wants him to do.
Plus I also thought a town Knightz could probably prove himself eventually.
All day long I wanted Knightz to explain his 'arguing why I am vanilla' sentence. Part of me really thought that maybe he just used weird wording due to FD explaining to him what paraphrasing was.
But nope, just scum using scum lingo.

Compare that logic with Changmas 'lets lynch someone who is a threat', which is just sleasy.
Anyway... thats enough from me for now.

To sum up the state of topic3's beginning.
Peaf is wary of people focusing JUST on Taco/Knightz
Ben believed Knightz to be explainable town
FD was still willing to lynch Knightz but wanted to look elsewhere for scum for a bit.
Sbell didnt want people to use Taco/Knightz as a shield. He never explained what he meant by that when asked.

(and Peaf gets points for not liking any of those lynches at the time

Topic3 is when people seem to push away from Knightz due to "him and Taco being a distraction for now"
Which is half fair and half suspicious.

[3] FD - (Ulti), Red, Chang, (Taco),Lopen
[3] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, Ctes
[2] Kirby - Peaf, (Ulti), Sbell

The votes on FD also look bad now with hindsight.

Ctes in general had a lackluster approach to Knightz

I think Blade is right that SBell and Lopen cannot be paired. I get the points against both, but Taco and Knightz looks unlikely to be paired either imo. If Taco is scum someone who played baseball mafia is certainly on the table. If you wanna lynch either, less to gamble with by lynching Knightz as taunter can perhaps self resolve.

FD feels towny
Death feels towny
Ulti feels towny
Probably some others did too.

Then he just defaulted to Wallz

Add Ctes to the list of "people who defended Knightz day1 and were like-quoted by Kirby while Kirby still has said nothing about Knightz himself"

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Say it ain't so

He defends me when I'm being attacked for ridiculous things. It's refreshing compared to how red/others treat me.

Kirby did that last game too, should be easy for him to mimic it. Hell, he probably does at least empathize with you for what thats worth.

Meow1000 posted...

Death is going to find it fun when he sees how much I was soft defending the guy late in the day.

Oh I remember something like that.
Plus your soft attack on MI also can count. But I am not there yet!

You did yes FD, you still have more points than not. But

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Maybe it's just because I had to convince him not to try to lynch the confirmed Mason, but knightz feels more coherent to me so far.

From a flavor perspective I'm not crazy about that description of Luis Guzman, but I did ask him for his own words -_-

This post sounded is what I felt was a bit too kind. Tho I admit hindsight is easy to apply now.

Meow1000 posted...

Wouldn't a gamefaqs pm be way better

Oh I guess hosts could allow that when discords arent available.
I am just so used to PM communication not being allowed that it didnt cross my mind.

Btw Ben also loses townpoints for believing Knightz to be town due to his claim.
(and he's also now cursed due to Kirby liking Bens post about Knightz)
Thats it for topic1

Random theory time for myself
Ulti is actually scum and he could not talk to Knightz due to his discord aversion so he blatantly signalled to Knightz INTOPIC that he expected him to claim vanilla.

Not at all a believer of this. But I want credit for it postgame on the off chance that it turns out to be true.

Also FD loses 1 townpoint for being too kind to the Luis Guzman claim.
Thats not a lot, but its on the record.

Shoulda waited for Mzero to say something before pointing that out tho.

Not that Mzero is getting away with NOT revealing who he targeted.

BTW you know who said nothing at all about Knightz topic1 but had plenty to say about everyone else? (Including people who were talking about Knightz and thats why he liked them)

Kirby

Meow1000 posted...

I mean my Bloodborne team had a kidnap and we never even used it.

Yeah I remember

FD starts with a bit of a neutral Knightz stance, but him getting the claim fumble out of Knightz is enough to give FD townpoints.

Meanwhile Ben is the first to say Knightz is 'fine'
Unfortunate bad read from Ben. But that early its probably 'fine'

Btw people should stop saying Chang wanted to kill Knightz right away
He wanted to drop a ton of questions on him as a blitz
Not sure if he ever did tho.

Topic1

MI looking good for being the first to question Knightz attitude, Peaf looks okay for following that trend the next page.
Ulti looks good either way for being the one Knightz tried to sheep while Ulti had none of it.

I mean sometimes you have a role that demands you to get out of your safety box

Chang at least has the WIFOM factor going for him yes.

Did Corrik even say WHY he blocked Blade?
Plus he should be smart enough to know a rb like that does not scumconfirm someone 100 %

changmas posted...

anyone who isn't hyped for my event tomorrow will be made to play boar on the floor for everyone else's amusement. you'll be humiliated.

off to bed for me, toodles !

You said you were gone a while ago!?!?

Thats why I am still wary of Chang too since he was angling for people to jump on to either me or Corrik.
Corrik also kept calling for my or Wallz lynches for no given reason whatsoever.