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KanzarisKelshen posted...

-Unless stated otherwise, characters have access to their full arsenal of abilities and equipment. They may not always work at full power, however (e.g. a petrifying spell may have only a partial hindering effect not seen in gameplay or even fail outright against sufficiently powerful mercenaries). Use your own discretion.

I'd just like people to read this and use discretion - Raiden can really make people become dismembered. Raise might not have a great affect on dismembered foes. Also I think that you could throw in any sort of debuffs from Aigis into this caveat as well!

Yes

For the record, both abilities being used are single target yes? I don't see how it becomes a team wide reraise. In fact, they aren't even the abilities being used from CT.

Mewtwo59 posted...

I'm not buying the Gravity Gun working on anyone here. Gordon needed the Super Gravity Gun to have it work on humans, and it didn't work on the bigger mechanical enemies either. If Kuriboh was a robot, I'd buy it working on him, but that's it.

Well sure but Aigis is a robot, and gravity gun can pick up heavy drums of flammable combustible stuff.

Kamekguy posted...

I do think Pamela's super dead here -

I agree that a ghost against a Belmont is a bad match up but I'd like to remind you she has two lives. She revives a few turns after being felled the first time. Wouldn't she be able to run to a different floor once the ambushing party leaves? Seems pretty likely to me.

Reference is the wiki.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/4/AABu2zAAEQ30.png

I'd just like everyone to know a lot of discussion was held while I was asleep. I think Gordon is pretty handy here. There's a lot of bookshelves he can grab for cover, blockading entrances which will create bottlenecks for Gordon to shoot into.

Raiden has AR vision which really handy to find people.

I just think the strategy of spamming raise doesn't make much sense, especially when as was discussed, there are limited MP pools. This takes away from firepower, which is pretty bad when you're dealing with Raiden at all.

I'd also like to point out against that the Gravity Gun picks up metal objects and Aigis is about the size to be able to throw. If she's focusing on Pamela it's a perfect time to Gravity Gun her around.

Well as long as Pamela is alive (or dead as a ghost) Aigis really isn't going to be contributing as some sort of full time reviver.

In fact if you put Crono on full time reviving you still have Gordon to interrupt him with his pulse rifle (and he's a sitting duck) along with Aigis being a sitting duck too.

This all leaves Raiden to deal with the Castlevania duo and Tingle and Eunie.

Final thought: this is a really tight environment which favors Raidens close combat expertise. Gordon's disruption with his GG, pulse rifle and homing rockets are going to make it very difficult for the enemy team to execute any sort of strategy in order.

If Pamela survives, she's going to be an albatross for Aigis since she will be prioritizing her and not reviving people.

Finally as far as the abilities state, Pamela resurrects a few turns later. So she should have an escape route out whether or not she dies to the initial ambush.

And assuming Pamela does get away and rendezvous with her team which is very possible, it's important to keep in mind that Aigis is going to prioritize her first.

This gives Gordon the opportunity to neutralize her with the Gravity Gun as she's completely a robot, and throw her into the enemy team. That's a big distraction and will deal some fatal blows.

Keep in mind Freeman throws broken fuselage at Striders in his game and deals significant damage to them.

Chaeix posted...

I may have flipped the attacker/defender positions so Gordon/Raiden will actually be entering from the bottom of the Library but my strategy still remains 'find the largest area to fight' lol.

Also Pamela absolutely can't float around the terrain. A lot of these walls aren't connected to anything adjacent, she's absolutely not phasing through the nebulous void of outside the terrain. Like if it were the Wii Fit Studio you're suggesting she could just go outside of the terrain and camp there? That's the kind of phasing around you're suggesting.

The terrain states it's a several level building. If you look at a map of the terrain it's all connected. No OOB hacks here, just what a ghost can do.

Chaeix posted...

Gordons problem is that hes a regular durability dude neck-up and I have a lot of people who can pop that extremely quickly.

Hes tanky but has an Achilles head.

I'm quite certain Gordon wears an HEV SUIT helmet. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to withstand radioactive areas he travels through all the time

Alrighty so this fight occurs in a dungeon. Pamela's team starts in the bottom of the terrain (the basement) whereas the attackers (Pamela and friends) start basically at the entrance as far as I can tell. Anyway the video I listed is the terrain, it's basically...a library and all.

Pamela is starting by the enemy team which does sound bad, but I'd like to show you this video (which also shows the terrain!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APS37ViG8L4&t=1002s

Pamela can phase through walls, which is incredibly handy here! All she really needs to do when surrounded by enemies is to relax, and fall through the floor. This is a fairly complex dungeon, so the enemy team is going to need time to locate her. This gives her a good head start on finding her team, and she also really knows this terrain well since I believe she haunts it.

Moreover, Pamela in game is completely immune to physical damage, so I would imagine the suplex doesn't hurt her at all. The only means of damaging her is by herself, or by magic. I know the enemy team is going to gang up on her at the start of the fight, but she doesn't truly *appear* to be a ghost, so it'll take time for them to pinpoint her weaknesses. And secondly, healing **does not** hurt her, so Raise or Samarecarm won't OHKO her.

Finally, Pamela has the innate ability of Immortal Body, which revives her. If she dies to the ambush, she'll get a second chance. According to the wiki, it takes a few turns: if she dies on spawn (which I disagree with), she'll revive after the baddies leave the room she's in.

Pamela offers fantastic utility with debuffs, and healing, and once with her team I think she'd contribute alot. She can pass off the ability Phantom Touch to Raiden, which gives him healing on his attacks, which makes him kind of a monster IMO. She can also summon monsters to help, which includes her teddy bear.

Outside of Pamela, there's Raiden who does Raiden things. He's uninhibited this fight which is great.

Gordon Freeman has his Pulse Rifle and Rocket Launcher, and actually most importantly, his Gravity Gun. There's plenty of bookcases and other fauna for him to throw around - and keep in mind the gravity gun can launch things very hard. Gordon is pretty good in tight spaces with his homing rocket launcher. And he's fought off Striders, which are huge tripedal robots. They fire plasma guns, too, which makes Freeman pretty tanky if he's canonically able to defeat them.

TL;DR:
Pamela might be at a disadvantage, but she has two lives, and can walk through terrain to reunite with her team. She knows the terrain, so she'll be able to find where her comrades are with little difficulty. Once she regroups, she with Freeman and Raiden have a clear strength advantage.

mario uses hat ability on tingle to keep labrys happy

20 exp on Raiden pre attle

poorly

Nipahhhhhhh~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RISNdz22Zk

editted my post, i was wrong

Unfortunately this terrain is so large that Rika's do-over's won't matter. If they die one time, they won't get much intel again since it's timed so low (30 seconds a third time) that they won't meet again in any relevant situation.

i dont see how anyone gets in range on this terrain with gordon freeman using rockets and raiden scooping up the rest.

i mean he probably dies, but raiden doesnt

Mewtwo might be able to throw things around, but he's fried zero brains in Pokemon as far as I'm aware. Raiden might be susceptible to emotional torment, but this doesn't do it in any of mewtwo's appearances.

https://youtu.be/ibZ7QJrEf80?t=538

All I really got this week is that Raiden is bigger, stronger, and faster too. And he's stronger than the DK Crew.

Raiden fights a psychic user in the video who can manipulate his limbs to avoid weak points, creates a smoke screen and ambushes Raiden from the shadows and gets parried every time, and is also strong enough to throw a chopper and a bus simulatneously that Raiden chops down.

leaning towards cloud not tanking it due to a lack of FEATz

so does anyone have cloud tanking featz

does cloud get healing magic?

I think Crono with Tusk's ability is a pretty good glow up at least

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