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I'm trying to look from both side here, and both has sound reason.
It boils down from each own's personal experience really.

Zeus posted...

No, the best method for minimizing damage is to call for help and to run. While I'm a firm believer in the Second Amendment and Stand Your Ground, I also recognize that it's fucking stupid to take damage in a fight when you could avoid the fight entirely.

Different context of time. When I wrote "2017", it's not for some trend. It really mean something.
See, you seems young. Back in my age (+15 years ago), teacher didn't care. Bullying was considered as normal aspect in growing up. There were a lot of initiation bullshit we need to endure, which in today's perspective; could easily be considered as physical abuse and sexual harassment. We're told to make out with each other, take off our top, dance in public, endure raw punch to our stomach. See... those things were considered normal, back then.

Therefore, getting into fight until you're bleeding all over the place, is the ONLY way to get attention. It's not about "gratifying solution", it was the solution. It was the only to say, "Look here, I'm bleeding, so it's really getting out of hand."

So you're kinda wrong about why we fight. It's not about gratification, or honor, or manhood, or other useless concept. We didn't even care. We just want it to stop.

Yellow posted...

These days you'd probably just get a criminal record and hurt yourself more than a bully could.

I like this answer. I'm gonna remember this the next time my cousin ask for help.
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Here's the story.

In the last family gathering, some cousins talk about bullying.
Not some sissy bullying like online shitposting, but real physical bullying, like shoving the victim, taking taking money, throwing away their bags, etc etc.

Personally, I fought back.
I met bullies in junior and high school, and I always fight back. And it works for me. Even against someone who claimed to be "badass-est gangster", or whatever the fuck he said he is, it still works. He threatened me for money, I fought him. The next day, he brought his friend and shit-talked me, so I fought them. And again. And again. After the 4th fight (around 2 months period), he stopped coming. I came to his class and said, "hey gangster, I'm right here. C'mon". He just mumbled something, and ignored me. So did his friends. So I left his class, and he never talked to me again.

It hurt. I got fractured ribs, torn lips, & broken nose. I cried while fighting. I bit. I threw dust to the eyes. I clawed with nails. I got suspended. I went "everything goes" when I fought. People call me names. They mocked how dirty I fought.

And guess what? After a couple of months... it didn't matter. People forget everything and I have friends again.
Don't get me wrong, fighting hurts. It sucked. But it works.
But now I got older, I started to doubt whether I took the "correct way" to handle bully.
Is it right to advice victims of bullying to fight back (physically), especially in this day & age?
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The problem is most liberals seem to confuse defending radicalism over defending religions.
The fact that they're not defending Islam at all, they're defending radicalism over tolerance.
And that is as stupid as it gets.

Tolerance works both way. It is idiotic to tolerate a person/group who think they're the only right answer to life.
I mean, what's the point, right? You should fight radicalism and superiority complex, not defend them.
Radicalism that's toxic, as for religion itself is... debatable.
Still, you think radical Christian or Hinduism is better than radical Islam? Of course not.
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