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It's more political rather than personal. Jordan Peterson makes a good point on how language use should not be dictated by the government. The development of language is a socially negotiated phenomenon. The more you force it, the less accepted it will be. The whole pronoun thing is like non-newtonian fluid physics. Give it like a decade and people will ease into it.

Like, sort of like a collectable that might pay off in like 40 years or something. He's going to be a big part of the '10s' and the '20s' history. Once we're in the 60s we're going to look at this point in time and be like, 'yeah, we went through s***'.

CRON posted...

You do realize this is intentional, right? They're trying to go after demographics that won't immediately write the game off by seeing marketing materials geared towards children.

I would assume that the niche in Elle's readership who would be interested in this game would be insignificant enough to not even put the effort in. This would assume that people would already have a Nintendo Switch. If they already have a Nintendo Switch, there's no need to have an interview in some writing form, a video with the actress would suffice.

An interview in writing form?

This is the worst marketing PR move I've seen in a while. At least try making a youtube video..

Do you get paid for that? As in, are her views monetized?

Popcorn without butter or flavoring sounds nice. Gonna put that on my grocery list the next time I head over.

I'm hungry but I don't want to load up on sugars.

If Biden does pass during his tenure, Harris would do a good job holding down the fort until the next election cycle.

I don't doubt her ability. In fact, if Biden does pass, chances are the country will rally around her.

Biden's doing great btw.

I bet Trump would fit right into CE. He's got a good gimmick.

She's cute.

No guys, it's because of orignial sin

Kradek posted...

Because you're unaware of just how uninformed the general electorate actually is. Like, maybe the political junkies here could take a break and there'd be little change, however you are grossly overestimating the levels of informed the general public is if that's what you're suggesting. And you don't need to be informed to vote, so you can both vote and be ignorant of the great workers at the same time.

You've got a point, but I don't think 'general electorate' is a good way of explaining CE's make up xd

But you are right, I won't take that away from you.

Kradek posted...

To who? In the U.S. being an incumbent comes with a boost in their favor. That's why so many members of Congress retain their seats while doing nothing, because they're the incumbent and have name recognition.

Having said that, the media is treating Trump like he's some newcomer when they talk about his performance in the primaries when he's essentially an incumbent himself, just 4 years removed.

Him barely getting 51% in Iowa is actually pretty terrible for an incumbent candidate.

This is the worst advice I've ever seen here. Political apathy and ignorance is why the U.S. is so fucked up in its politics. We need more political engagement and informative levels, not less.

Not really. If you've been following politics for the last 8 years it's pretty obvious who you'll have to choose. If you know the candidates, I don't see why I have to follow the news to find out what they are like. Americans have seen Trump in office, so with Biden. I don't think there is much left to see.

Usually the incumbents have it harder, but this kind of perspective usually leaves out the obvious opponent.

When polling time comes around in September or October Biden probably will be in a comfortable lead.

Honestly it'll probably be better for everyone if they tuned out of politics for like 8 months.

Incredible posted...

"only 22"

You know that's a grown adult right

I dunno, at 22 I was still pretty much a kid.

Who's that and what is that.

Imagine being given power to one of the most powerful empires of the world at that age. The American War for Independence started when he was 38, that's pretty young too if you ask me.

He also pluped out 15 kids throughout his life, married at the age of 23, after succeeding his grandfather.

If he apologizes, yes

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Because he's the problem

Not a problem.

Okay

I'm back!

Trump should apologize

At least it's a foreign leader. Trump messes up Haley with Pelosi.

Doom_Art posted...

wtf are you talking about

I mean that's the treshhold for victory, but it's not something that inspires confidence. If you enter an election with that exact strategy, as is, the Republicans will try and squeeze in whatever to destablize that lead or strategy. Your win, politically, should be to overcompensate. That's just my take.

Doom_Art posted...

Biden won last year without winning either NC or SC

Obama won in 2012 without winning either of them too

SC is something they shouldn't bother with. NC is like how Georgia was in 2020. It's a nice buffer if you run your numbers up, but it's not necessary for a path to victory.

If Dems hold their safe states and win WI, MI, and PA then that's 270. That's the path every nominee needs to go through and I'm confident that the ones I listed can pull that off.

Yeah I mean that's the glass half full view lol

Doom_Art posted...

Democrats haven't won SC since Carter and have only won NC once since then.

They don't need the Carolinas to win.

Well yeah I thought like that too until Hillary dropped it in 2016.

The simple fact that there's still a tension in regards to the 2024 election shows that Dems don't have a candidate that can surely secure an election (from 2028 beyond).

I guess political winds can change by then, but at the moment, I'm not as totally confident as I would like.

Doom_Art posted...

Ah yes, noted safe blue states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.

No one knew who Barack Obama was in early 2004.

The country that fans itself over young/handsome politicians like JFK, Clinton, and Obama would certainly vote for a 40 year old incumbent senator.

Okay and that's nice but voters aren't going to care about Indo-Pacific geopolitical dynamics. That's just not a thing most people base their vote on.

You didn't really answer the question. You just restated your original point and said vagaries like "too left"

Each of the candidates I listed has either demonstrated the capability of winning elections in swing states or regions where Democrats need to win. In the case of Newsom and Pritzker, even though they're from pretty solidly blue states, they've demonstrated the ability to utilize their respective majorities extremely effectively and communicate their policies to a national audience.

Well, my criteria for a capable Dem president is someone who can win Pennsylvania and the Carolinas handedly. Michigan and California don't translate too well to the east coast.

As for comparing Ossoff with Obama.. I don't share in your view. Obama has had a wealth of experience growing up, being a third culture kid. Also, he was 47, not 40 when he became president as well. Ossoff hasn't really broken out in the limelight yet, while I do appreciate what he's done so far.

Again, generally, we're not talking about this on the level of the centrist, moderate voter. Someone like Katie Porter would have a much better chance than some of these other candidates you've mentioned, if we're talking about reaching out to the center.

EPR-radar posted...

I like how TC is pushing the future chances of a generic Republican, conveniently ignoring that once Trump is gone, the GOP will go into an orgy of backstabbing as they all try to become the next Trump.

If you read a little bit more carefully, I mention 2036, not 2028 or 2032.

Actually, I think it was my mistake trying to share my view, too visceral.

If Art_Doom wants to continue our chat, I'll solely reply to his post.

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You replied to that post in like 10 seconds.

Doom_Art posted...

Elaborate please

Here's a political secret: voters don't usually give a fuck about foreign policy lol

I just don't see how they would fare well against a Republican candidate. Most of those governors you've mentioned are too far left in the perception of the public to be able to win some of the swing states. Some of the older governors there don't have that much of a presense in national politics yet, so their candidacy could easily be countered by a more well known Republican.

Ossoff is 36, Americans aren't going to try a 40 year old for president.

As for foreign policy, if the next presidential candidate doesn't understand the dynamics of the developing nations in the Indo-Pacific, Biden's IRA will have been for nothing. Ossoff was the junior senator who went around the Pacific trying to lay ground for the IRA and the CHIPS act.

Overall, sure, the people you've listed might be good from the perspective of the party, but in the general it's a different question.

Why do you think they would do good in the general, if that's what you're asserting?

Doom_Art posted...

Whitmer
Newsom
Pritzker
Ossoff
Kelly
Beshear
Shapiro
Moore

I don't see how anyone there would be viable in 2028. Even beyond 2028, it seems like only Ossoff would have had foreign policy experience. I can see Newsom winning the primary but I have doubts about him performing in the general.

Doom_Art posted...

The Dems have a pretty solid bench of candidates. Pay better attention lol

Like? We're talking about the national level here. There's plenty of star democrats who do fantastic in their own constituencies.

Doe posted...

His presidential ambition is public knowledge

Ah okay.
Questionmarktarius posted...

Maybe, but he's got some baggage.

Yeah the Jan 6 fist bump isn't a good look. But things might change like 10 years down the line, you never know.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because the Dems don't have a plan B after Biden. I'm really worried about 2028, of whether the Republicans are going to calm down and whether the Dems can nominate someone to keep the stability going.

He's young, smart, a bit divisive, but I feel like if he stays in the right lines in his party after McConnell retires, he might have a chance.

He's probably so proud of himself after that grilling, I have to admit he did a good job.

I mean this is after we assume the electoral college stays the way it is until like 2036.

Wow, guess reading on a desk isn't a thing.

I have this habit of reading while laying down, and I've tried reading sitting down on my desk, but I feel like I don't take in as much if I read on the bed.

Is this a habit I should fix or does it matter?