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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:37:38 PM
#62
ThisGuyAreSick posted...
But you're missing the point that the cops assessed he was a danger to society but there's been a history of cops who do the exact opposite to whites who are ACTUALLY a danger to society.

Nothing Rayshard Brooks did was a capital offense. Nothing he did warranted being shot and killed. Nothing he did warranted being kicked while he clinged for life.
Lethal force isn't used as a means of punishment you muppet, it's a means of self-defense or defense of others. If Roof walked out of that theater with his guns pointed at police they would have gunned him down in the street. When Rayshard Brooks pointed the taser at the pursuing officer, he was shot dead in the street.

They are not assessing their value to society. They are assessing if someone is about to be killed or seriously injured. This should be a pretty simple concept to understand. The issue is when police misinterpret what a threat is, and that's where the courts need to step in and define it for nuanced situations through indictments and charges if necessary.

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:34:24 PM
#57
ThisGuyAreSick posted...
40 minutes was all the cops needed with a drunk man to decide on killing him.

Damn man. If only they had more time maybe he wouldn't have committed the capital offense of sucker punching a cop!
It was the suspect who decided to steal the cops taser. The cops didn't escalate the violence. You can argue a taser isn't dangerous enough to warrant using lethal force, that's fine, but you're not making any actual arguments here. You're just... writing weird oppression fanfiction.

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:32:27 PM
#53
ThisGuyAreSick posted...
I'm struggling to see as to why that motivation isn't toxic and completely beneficial to killers like Dylann Roof.
Because you only view things in bizarro false dichotomies. The two are completely unrelated. Rayshard Brooks would have been taken to the station, given some water and a cot to sleep it off, and charged with a DUI in the morning if he peacefully surrendered too.

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:29:13 PM
#47
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Then that poses another question: why are the police more interested in building rapport with a white supremacist who had no remorse for his actions than they are in building rapport with the many black men they have killed who were, at worst, accused of petty crimes, if there was even a crime committed at all?
IIRC, the cops in the Rayshard Brooks case spent 40 minutes trying to talk him into peacefully going into the station.

It's dumb to generalize all police behavior. Criticize situations where the do stuff wrong. Don't criticize weird hypothetical situations that you strawman for the sake of your own argument.

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TopicMy therapist said going forward I need to find a new therapist
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:24:52 PM
#23
Are you actually melting down because of your other shit topic? Just stop acting like a fucking weirdo on here, dude. It's that easy.

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:15:03 PM
#39
ThisGuyAreSick posted...
First off, Georgia law says the opposite.

Secondly, the taser fired its maximum shots and the cops knew this.

Last but not least, if we treat the taser as a lethal weapon, that would mean the cop who initially pulled it out was using unauthorized deadly force against an unarmed suspect.

Now shut the fuck up.
People, I think, are misinterpreting a post I made in a previous topic criticizing the DA's interpretation of Aggravated Assault in a previous case from last month. Just to clarify, as far as I know, taser's are NOT considered a deadly weapon in the GA legal code.

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:08:16 PM
#33
VanananaHeyHey posted...
These are opposites.
No, they aren't. I can simultaneously run away from someone while firing a weapon at them. It's pretty common in LEO videos.

Edit: Jesus Christ, there's two of you who don't get this simple concept? Do you guys have difficulty breathing and walking at the same time too?

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 4:05:17 PM
#29
eston posted...
I still don't get why they took him to a drive-thru. That seems incredibly unusual for cops to do even for people who didn't just commit mass murder. Did the cops pay for him out of pocket?
This kind of thing can be pretty common actually to get a confession in a situation where it's obvious the suspect did it. Better to try to get the confession as soon as possible by buttering up the perp rather than letting the lawyers get too involved.

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TopicDylann Roof was a lethal threat who was promptly taken to Burger King
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 3:58:51 PM
#13
I mean, demonstrably speaking, Dylan Roof peacefully surrendered to the police.

Rayshard Brooks was shot in the act of fleeing and attacking police.

Police don't (usually) shoot police as a form of punishment, they shoot people because they are resisting arrest with perceived lethal force.

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TopicHahahaha she blocked me
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 3:11:56 PM
#49
Austin_Era_II posted...
Please pogo...

Shut the fuck up

Thanks
Aw, fine with dishing out criticisms but can't take it when it comes back around, huh? I wish I could say I'm surprised.

I think you're the one who needs to shut the fuck up, as most of the responses in this topic have shown.

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TopicHahahaha she blocked me
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 10:56:57 AM
#44
-Kush- posted...
*posts a topic with rat pic*
*user says his snake eats that*
*she replies a bit upset*
*user says he's joking*
*I reply to user he's a jerk for making that joke (since I know when I mentioned it she cried literally when my intention wasn't to make her cry)*
*gets blocked by her*

Oh yeah I'm creepy XFD white knighting going strong Pogo. She needs to get thicker skin. People like her don't make it too far in the real world sadly. Creepy would be if I was pming her (which I never have done) or saving her pics like some of you guys lmfao.
Dude, I don't even know who the TC in question is. This isn't about her, whoever she is. It's about you doing creepy shit, like this topic for example. Also creepy shit like calling everybody who thinks you are acting strange "White knights". This shit is par the course for you and frankly very annoying.

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TopicHahahaha she blocked me
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 10:38:59 AM
#38
KainWind posted...
Of all the things she should block people over, that does not seem like one of them.
TC is generally creepy and off-putting, so to be fair it could have been for any number of things he's said before.

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TopicBeen watching Naruto and I finally saw Lee vs Gara
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 9:51:43 AM
#19
DuneMan posted...
Filler, at least at the time, was more of an issue for Bleach IIRC.
Oh.... No. "Filler hell" was a term invented for Naruto.

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TopicBeen watching Naruto and I finally saw Lee vs Gara
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 9:50:42 AM
#18
There was a decent amount of Shippuden that I enjoyed, but by the time the final few arcs came I had abandoned it. Even though it let go of a lot of the notes from the first series that made it great, it still had some good stories to tell.

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TopicApparently saying you support trump is against ToS
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 9:44:40 AM
#13
Error1355 posted...
airstrike incoming
This is proof that when a conservative says they support Trump, they get banned, but when a LIBERAL supports Trump, Error makes a joke out of it!

GAMEFAQS CONSPIRACY!

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TopicCHAZ resident gets labeled a bigot/rightwinger after complaining about theft.
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 9:42:25 AM
#41
God damn, I hope this commune keeps going for a few more weeks. It's a gift that keeps on giving.

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TopicApparently saying you support trump is against ToS
Pogo_Marimo
06/18/20 9:35:55 AM
#9
stfu Dan

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TopicTrump thought Finland was a part of Russia
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 5:26:05 PM
#5
Also, John Bolton can go fuck himself. He had a seat at the fucking table. He could have blown the whistle on ANY of this stuff while he was still in the administration, but NOW he's revealing it in his memoirs? Go eat a bag of shit.

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TopicTrump thought Finland was a part of Russia
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 5:24:25 PM
#2
To be fair, for a while, Russia thought Finland was a part of Russia too.

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TopicTime for your routine litmus test, CE. Boobs or Ass?
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 5:15:19 PM
#36
cjs28 posted...
Ass is literally for shitting in toilets.
I mean, that's wrong. Ass is for running and jumping. Butthole is for pooping. Might wanna crack open an anatomy textbook m8.

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TopicSo your telling be you can perceive 60 different images in a second?
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 5:13:10 PM
#15
Yeah, it's noticeable between 30 and 60 but I don't think 30 FPS is bad for most context nowadays aside from high-speed or highly competitive games.

FPS is ALSO the limitation for input precision, meaning stuff like fighting games can legitimately be impacted at the higher end by less precise input windows.

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TopicScenario: You're April Rolfe walking downstairs at 2am to feed your crying baby
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 4:29:54 PM
#6
Propane4Sale posted...
why is Mike watching the TMNT collection with his cock out in full display? <___< >_____>
If you had a ten inch hog, you would just keep it bunched up in your briefs while watching TMNT at your friend's/employer's/sugar daddy's house? Wtf?

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TopicJust saw two buff as hell white dudes holding hands
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 4:27:44 PM
#4
It was probably just Adam and James from Funhaus.

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TopicScenario: You're April Rolfe walking downstairs at 2am to feed your crying baby
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 4:26:38 PM
#3
I say, "Mike Matei, you have a huge penis. Please post it on the internet."

Then walk out of the room to feed my crying baby.

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TopicBelle Delphine is trending on Twitter
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 4:14:38 PM
#55
God damn.

Still wood berry.

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TopicOfficer who murdered Rayshard Brooks charged with felony murder + 10 other charg
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 4:05:29 PM
#26
Tired-Insomniac posted...
Shooting a fleeing suspect because he was using a non-lethal weapon is justified?
The DA for Atlanta pressed charges last month against a couple officers who tasered someone inside their vehicle. The DA charged them with Aggravated Assault, which requires either assault with a deadly weapon or some kind of serious bodily harm--In this case, the DA argued that a taser was a deadly weapon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/atlanta-officers-charged-assault-after-video-them-using-stun-guns-n1222351

Now, granted, I totally agree with the charges here, but the problem is as a DA if you start picking and choosing when a taser is considered a deadly weapon, you're going to give the defense a lot of room to pick apart your inconsistency. If the taser was a deadly weapon, and it was fired at the officers, in the moment they would be justified in using deadly force even if the suspect was actively fleeing.

I doubt these charges will stick tbh.

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TopicThat moment you realize the new COD has...alt right graffiti
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 11:42:00 AM
#3
Lol whoops

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TopicBlack woman say Democrats are evil + racist while Repubs are truth, 6.3m views!!
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 11:21:06 AM
#11
Tired-Insomniac posted...
Honest question: what have Republicans done for black people in the past 50 years?
Crack Cocaine?

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Topic"No choke holds" is a pretty terrible policing policy
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 10:59:59 AM
#22
Solid Snake07 posted...
They're pretty easy if you know what you're doing unless the person you're grappling with knows how to defend against them
No, they're pretty much always safe to use if you know what you're doing. The RNC is the most common submission in all of grappling regardless of skill level.

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Topic"No choke holds" is a pretty terrible policing policy
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 10:56:41 AM
#18
SquantoZ posted...
chokeholds are not that easy to properly pull off in a way that results in the other person being relatively unharmed.
They legitimately are very easy to properly pull off safely. There are tens of thousands of fresh white belts in BJJ classes every day that are not killing or maiming their opponents with chokeholds.

There are submission holds that ARE legitimately difficult to use without injuring your partner, though, and require some practice. Neck cranks and leg locks are the big ones. Kimuras to a lesser extent.

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Topic"No choke holds" is a pretty terrible policing policy
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 10:52:28 AM
#13
RetsuZaiZen posted...
Is the Crippler Crossface a choke hold?
No, it's a neck crank.

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Topic"No choke holds" is a pretty terrible policing policy
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 10:52:07 AM
#12
The issue is, police are clearly not getting the correct training to use these holds. You can't exactly allow people to use broadly use chokeholds when you know the majority of them aren't even correctly trained in their use--If you can't force police to be properly trained, then at the very least you can make it illegal to use more advanced and potentially deadly techniques to prevent needless death.

If I was the Emperor of the USA, I would make a broad federal program to certify and recertify all police in the use of grappling techniques. It would require them to take a four hour grappling training four times a year in order to consistently reinforce the safe applications of grappling moves, plus I would subsidize officers in training at local Judo and BJJ clubs if they wish to engage in extracurricular training. This certification would be required for all officers, and failure to renew it over a 6 months period would make the officer broadly liable for injuries or death during an arrest that arise from grappling with the suspect. Failure to renew it over a 1 year period would result in termination outside of certain exclusions, such as medical leave.

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TopicPolice officer sobs over McMuffin taking too long to cook
Pogo_Marimo
06/17/20 10:25:33 AM
#78
The crazy thing is, black people and minorities in general don't even know what it's like to experience this kind of discrimination in their life. They're lucky, you know? These fast food workers take one look at a person and uniform and make an immediate judgement about their character. How could black people even understand that kind of suffering? We should give our thoughts and prayers, fellas.

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TopicWas your mother around when you were growing up?
Pogo_Marimo
06/16/20 11:37:45 PM
#11
Yo momma so fat, she was a round when you was growing up.

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TopicWhy arent there more real ass heists irl
Pogo_Marimo
06/16/20 11:26:36 PM
#4
https://youtu.be/iPlFdIpgioI

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TopicCharlie the Unicorn: The Grand Finale (Part 2)
Pogo_Marimo
06/16/20 7:58:28 PM
#1
https://youtu.be/2nXM1R0PlTo

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TopicGirl dresses up for date. Brother says she looks like a w****.
Pogo_Marimo
06/16/20 6:20:23 PM
#12
Gamerguymass posted...
A younger sister being treated unfairly compared to an older brother? What is this bullshit? More like:

Younger sister: Mom he hit me!

Mom: Why did you hit your sister?!?!?

Older brother: I didn't touch her!

Mom: You're grounded!!!

Older brother: But I didn't do anything!!!

Mom: Do you want to be grounded even longer?

Younger sister: *smirks*
What?

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TopicHOOOOLY SHIT..... there is a THIRD upcoming World of Darkness rpg
Pogo_Marimo
06/16/20 1:47:01 PM
#6
As long as at least one of these is a really good game I'll be happy. We've desperately needed some well-written, well developed World of Darkness games since V:tM.

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TopicIsraeli troops kill teen bystander while failing to arrest mentally disabled man
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 7:01:21 PM
#8
Disgusting

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TopicRice is not a health food, quit praising it!
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 6:28:16 PM
#5
Who tf eats more than, like, a cup of cooked rice? That's soo much rice.

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TopicCops tries to run over protesters. When they hit car cops jump out and attack.
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 2:22:35 PM
#56
Captain_Qwark posted...
I don't see how you could side with the protestors here

They arrersed the people trying to attack them without tear gas, batons, guns. That's the right way to do it.

That one protestor tries hitting the cop on the head with a skateboard for trying to arrest a guy that sucker punched him for christs sake.
Seriously, I don't even know what people's expectation is here. The dude started smashing their car with a skateboard, the cops got out and arrested him without hurting him. What do you want? For police to just let people smash their property? Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

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Topicthe only game announced today I was interested in was Bugsnax
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 10:00:14 AM
#7
Kero Kero Bonito should make the theme song for basically all of these cartoony, lite games.

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TopicRobert E. Lee is a bad and overrated general
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 9:52:39 AM
#55
blackthunder329 posted...
Interesting thought on that. The Colonies were called "The British Colonies" for a reason. And what I had stated is factual based on the very definition of the word treason.

Actually, what I stated is more thought out that the OP's statement.

Here's the thing, the very definition of the word treason is exactly what the Colonists had done.

For anyone who thinks this country was founded by any means other than treason, remember this. The very definition of the word treason is "The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."

Now, the Colonists did exactly that by telling King George that he had no power over the people of the British Colonies. The "Revolutionary War" as it is called was no revolution. No one knows who fired the first shot. And the colonists had been attacking the soldiers for quite some time.

The South did the same, but in a more peaceful way. They just simply cut ties with the North and formed their own government. The North fired the first shot during the start of the Civil War. People want to call out Robert E. Lee for being such a terrible general, but seem to forget about General Sherman who burned and killed everything and everyone in his path to Atlanta.

Consider this. King George wanted to keep control of the British Colonies, land that was "owned" by Great Britain. The North wanted to keep control of the South to keep a complete "Union" of the growing nation.

Both used what would be called excessive force by military according to the way people act and think today.

Here's something even bigger. Are people going to go after the Washington Monument? Are they going to protest his accomplishments? No. He owned slaves. Just because he kept them well fed should not distract from the fact that he still had them.

How about any of the politicians up to, and beyond Lincoln? The have all ordered mass genocide of the Native tribes of this land. Yet people want to complain about something that was abolished at the end of the Civil War. That's right, the "Emancipation Proclamation" was done after the war was all but settled.

Keep in mind that the African peoples of the United States are allowed to live, work, go, etc. wherever they want. The slaves who came from Africa to the Colonies/United States were sold by their own people. The Native tribes are still being forced to live on land that the government controls. It is still in the books (laws) that in order for them to live outside of the Reservations, they have to give up their way of life, and live like the people who forced them from their land with the threat of mass genocide.

You legitimately have no grasp on history.

Just because two acts can be defined under the same crime does not mean they are identical. Historians and people with brains use this thing called "context" to define the ethical and moral implications of actions instead of just playing "match-the-word-to-the-definition".

The colonists were being ruled by a government that lived three months away from it with no legal representation within that government. Furthermore, that government did very little to secure the rights that that group of people thought was important, and we in hindsight can also agree that the discrete rights that they came up with (The Constitution) was a superior code of law for the region than what they were subjected to previously. After decades of discontent at the treatment and non-response from the British Crown about their treatment, the American's rebelled. It was treason in the legal sense, but crimes do not define morality. We infer our legal system from our moral code, not the other way around.

Now for starters, The South fired the first shot. They literally stormed Fort Sumter to capture Union war materiel. Now, what was the cause of the Secession of the South? What was their claim to moral goodness? It was slavery. There would have been no Secession if there was no slavery. The South wanted to keep slavery, and it wanted the right to expand slavery into regions that weren't even in The South. The only way you could argue that the American Independence War and the American Civil War were similar in their declarations is if you use reductive arguments to hand wave away literally all the important context that led up to the declarations of independence.

Edit: Also, the Emancipation Proclamation was done well before the war was settled as a means to legally justify capturing and freeing Southern Slaves. More blatant ignorance on your part. However, the Emancipation Proclamation did NOT free Northern Slaves, as it would have been illegal to do so without a Constitutional amendment.

Americans committed all kinds of atrocities that have nothing to do with the position you're trying to support. You've done nothing in the remainder of your post to demonstrate why the Genocide of the Native Americans is at all relevant to the debate at hand.

Go educate yourself on some American history before blathering about like a dotard. This kind of bold, unapologetic ignorance makes me sick.

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TopicBox Design: Alienware the Console (PS5) vs Xbox Fridge (Xbox SeX)
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 9:30:18 AM
#29
The PS5 looks like it was designed by Georgia O'Keefe.

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TopicThis TikTok of a drunk Chad eating raw chicken bout to go Viral
Pogo_Marimo
06/12/20 9:28:55 AM
#16
Jabodie posted...
I'm glad the boys stepped in honestly.
The dude looked like a dog that grabbed something it shouldn't have lmao.

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TopicThis TikTok of a drunk Chad eating raw chicken bout to go Viral
Pogo_Marimo
06/11/20 6:19:54 PM
#6
Houston posted...
Is it guaranteed you'll get sick? Or pretty dang close?
I wouldn't say close to guaranteed, but it is very risky.

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Topicwow. g*mers really are the worst. if they arent complaining about women in games
Pogo_Marimo
06/11/20 5:47:05 PM
#4
Prismsblade posted...
Yea, who buys and judges anything based on design? 'Faceplam'.
We found one, boys.

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TopicSo is infinite time loops the new zombies or something
Pogo_Marimo
06/11/20 5:11:04 PM
#2
So is infinite time loops the new zombies or something

Can we not

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TopicConservative commentator Dan Bongino says 'all lives matter' in House hearing.
Pogo_Marimo
06/11/20 4:48:53 PM
#6
Is Dan Bongono black?



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