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TopicMafia Queue Topic 2
PeaceFrog
05/04/24 10:09:29 AM
#37
Not currently an active member

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 5:24:38 PM
#366
Forceful_Dragon posted...
At least he wont be able to fuck it up this time
Brutal

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 4:54:52 PM
#348
Yeah like i said before i wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a fast one on me and sweet talked his way into my heart.

Kirby has convinced me on the corrik/ Blade bit, too.

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TopicHelp me overcome the decision paralysis demon.
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 4:28:32 PM
#6
Dredge

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 4:11:35 PM
#328
I'll be honest, i don't really know who to believe at all. Which is why i narrowed it down to someone in those 4 - no matter what happens it'll give us some sort of direction. And mi saying "Red should be considered because i think he's scum" just totally is "head in sand" level of consideration for it all.

I do think red is probably scum and mi probably isn't (unless Wallz is too) but that's not the question we need to have resolved.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 3:10:36 PM
#294
Forceful_Dragon posted...
And if you're feeling spicy, consider Red, because other than antagonizing me I can't think of a single thing he's done this game.
Plus, if we count the mi eod voters as sus, except for chang and Ulti, Red is in that list! Plus me :)

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 2:00:18 PM
#265
Sleuther stop sleuthing

I'm surprised that no one really cared to tell me my logic from earlier was bad, where i said Wallz could only be scum if mi is.

And sure i think red is scummy too, mi, but putting him up as an option when we have at least one player in front of us deliberately lying feels like kicking the can down the road.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 1:38:22 PM
#256
I just watched the video and that was an incredible script, chang. Well done.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 1:36:21 PM
#252
This is going to make day 2 votal analysis more annoying, is my biggest gripe

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 1:32:44 PM
#248
changmas posted...
oh yeah the other thing I forgot to say about wallz that's giving me pause is that I'm not actually so sure that scum is having him deliver the kill assuming that there's a choice. Aside from me, he was probably the player drawing the most scrutiny at the end of day 1 and there's a decent likelihood of drawing some kind of investigative power towards him

so I'm not so convinced that Kirby actually prevented that kill by rb'ing wallz
That's a really good point that i had not considered.

And yeah I'd do the same thing in Chang's shoes. No way scum gets that role, not even in a lea game, so he's now firmly taken himself out of consideration today.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 1:30:48 PM
#246
Isquen posted...
I'm at work and still managed to find a moment to watch the video, and it's host approved. You're being deliberately obtuse in a moment of pique. I'd still rather be on Kirby but, if it's a glorified gladiation between you and Peaf, I'd rather be against you.
The funniest part of all this is i didn't even realize Chang put the most votes on me lol

Chang, i defended you day 1 for one reason and one reason only. After your first post i got it in my head that you could gift something cool to a certain flavor if only you could find them, and that's how you knew that flavor was in the game. So i voted for you to say "hey that's me" and then unvoted you to give you n1 to cook.

Your play didn't factor into it beyond that.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:55:40 PM
#211
TotallyNotMI posted...
I'd recommend one of corrik/red/wallz personally.

See you day 3.

(I'll still be around but my enthusiasm has plummeted for now)
Why include red, when he is not involved in the claim/ counterclaim conundrums?

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:52:06 PM
#207
Corrik/ Blade/ Kirby/ Wallz - 1 of these 4 needs to be resolved today imo.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:51:07 PM
#205
MZero posted...
random thought: have we considered that there was no kill last night because scum vanished Lopen during the day in place of their NK

I haven't read everything yet so if someone already brought this up whoops
It has not been raised, no.

Enchantress posted...
Changmas controls all votes for the remainder of the day.
Oh. Wow.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:46:16 PM
#188
PunishedBen posted...
Gamefaqs didn't let me quote a message that was just a quote so I got nasty
Oh i see. That makes sense.


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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:39:57 PM
#167
Ben, why am i undefined

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:36:10 PM
#155
Enchantress posted...
- You are forbidden from post pictures of other players into the topic. Do not post audio clips into the topic.


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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:35:05 PM
#153
TotallyNotMI posted...
I'm not watching that.


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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:24:59 PM
#141
Meow1000 posted...
And you said I stole from you for shame
I'm just saying your votals work was so lazy that you didn't even copy the homework of the guy who already shared his with the class

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:17:37 PM
#138
Oh OK other people said that whole bit too. Thanks, non-crazies

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 12:12:21 PM
#132
I'm still catching up but need to call out two things.

One, if you think wallz is scum, then why do you think he's "actually scum backup". The man would be lying about anything and everything, but you believe he's _____Backup? What the heck.

Two, if scum had the ability to backup Knightz' role and get results early, there's a chance that they'd see before we did that there was no kill. In which case, they'd resubmit actions. I don't think scum is able to backup, since that still went through.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 11:52:12 AM
#118
Meow1000 posted...
Uh Wallz had 3 apparently btw
This is why I've corrected it in every votals i have shared with you, and made a callout regarding it when you and i were discussing votals last night.
-_-

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 10:55:18 AM
#82
Corrik, i don't understand how you think you as town rb can coexist with Kirby.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 10:21:02 AM
#19
Votals with 4.5 hours to go
[4] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD
[4] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), Chang, Blade
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz

Votals with 1.2 hours to go
[5] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, IGCD
[5] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), Chang, Blade, Kirby
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz
[2] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, Ulti

Votals with 38 minutes left
[6] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, (IGCD), Kirby, IGCD
[4] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, Ulti, Peaf, Chang
[3] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), (Chang), Blade, (Kirby)
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz

Votals with 25 minutes left
[7] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, (IGCD), Kirby, (IGCD), MI, IGCD
[4] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, Ulti, Peaf, Chang
[3] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), (Chang), Blade, (Kirby)

Final Day One Votals
[8] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD, (IGCD), Kirby, (IGCD), MI, (IGCD), Ulti, Death, (IGCD)
[3] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz), Red, (Ulti), Peaf, Chang
[3] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), (Chang), Blade, (Kirby)
[1] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), (MI), Knightz
[1] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen), (Ulti), Sbell
Ctes and igcd had no votes down at eod.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 10:18:42 AM
#17
Never mind i literally cannot read.

Corrik, let me get the time stamped votals for you that i posted last night

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 7 - The Art of how to post Votals correctly (Sultan C-)
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 10:17:52 AM
#16
Hang on, did Corrik never vote Blade?

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TopicToday's PotD
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 9:11:25 AM
#8
Gottem

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 9:06:25 AM
#442
Obellisk posted...
we killed that super powerful role. it was the scumblocker role cop with the ability to resubmit actions in the event it went south.
Sure but the idea that "there's some other protection than Kirby" is valid.

I know we're dealing with a strong power game and all but if scum has an unconditional strongman n1 in addition to the thing that took Lopen away, that would be more than very powerful. I doubt that there was a strongman shot last night and even though kirby's logic was imperfect he got to the right answer in the end.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 9:03:32 AM
#440
MZero posted...
I uhhh forgot to submit my night action >_>
I buy it lmao

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:54:44 AM
#424
Kirby321 posted...
With all due respect, Peaf, you don't read my posts, do you? No wonder you always think I'm scum lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80760902/980211330
:)

Anyway yeah I'll back off. Kirby is probably legit. Wouldn't be the first or second or third time I've been wrong about wallz on day 1.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:45:09 AM
#403
Kirby321 posted...
It's possible. It's also possible I could roleblock the strongman. I wasn't sure, and if I assumed strongman was gonna be used regardless, I might as well have took the gamble on the chance that my roleblock actually would've worked.
No offense, but did you read the opening of the game?

During the Night phase, the following is the order in which actions take place. This is in no way confirmation of all these abilities being in the game.
1. Any necessary and hopefully unlikely host intervention
2. Strongman/poison
3. Any ability for which it is convenient to act early such as recruiter, neighborizer messenger or backup.
4. Roleblocking
5. Any form for redirection
6. Role stealing
7. Any form for kidnapping or commuting
8. Anything that does not fall into the other categories
9. Regular killing abilities
Emphasis mine.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:30:59 AM
#373
TotallyNotMI posted...
I mean, didn't you just see our discussion regarding Corrik how roleblocking n1 does not necessarily mean you blocked the kill? It's possible but there's a lot of other options to feel confident about that.
Iirc part of that argument is that Blade wouldn't be the one to send in the kill. This is Wallz.

Kirby, if you are town rber (plus doc) please show me where, if anywhere, you called Corrik full of shit and why you're not pressing on him further from his claim.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:29:02 AM
#368
Kirby321 posted...
Originally, I was planning to target MI. My thought process was that scum would probably use a Strongman kill N1, so I'd play my role more toward the roleblocker side than the protective side and attempt to stuff the kill that way.
I can take maybe being wrong on wallz, but strongman bypasses roleblocks too.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:20:45 AM
#356
Obellisk posted...
I'm still preparing to be extremely underwhelmed
You have my word that if it is underwhelming enough, I will probably be more irritated than anyone else since I vouched for him so hard d1

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:19:22 AM
#355
htaeD posted...
I still dislike this comment
I was making the point that regardless of Knightz' flip, the ramifications of yesterday was that we crushed the hopes and dreams of two middle schoolers.

ctesjbuvf posted...
Remember when a lot of you were like "Lea puppet is scum, let's not lynch it".
I was scum when i made that argument :)

Now, not lynching confirmed ctes scum for 3 days... that will haunt me to my grave.


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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/03/24 8:11:32 AM
#351
Obellisk posted...
morning, changs event better not be having us all pick players we think are scum and then he reveals he's got a cop scan or something.

because I'm gunna just punch him in the face for doing that garbage
He said it was not information like that

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 10:10:17 PM
#196
Kirby321 posted...
I imagine FD was speculating just as much as the rest of us. Until somebody claims Lopen's vanishment or that role flips, we can't know for certain how or when it was activated. You're getting too lost in speculation that nobody has concrete answers to, Peaf.
It's not speculation when you look at timestamps.

And not getting lost in speculation is exactly what i was trying to argue against! That was my point lmao

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 10:03:53 PM
#191
Start of topic 1**

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 10:03:33 PM
#190
Fd already proved that it occurred almost to the second 24 hours after your start of topic action. "What was Lopen doing then" without knowing what the conditions of it was, or anything like that, is probably going to be useless speculation that gets us nowhere. It's as much of a time waster as the Chang reveal.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 9:59:07 PM
#186
If enough people think it makes you scummy enough to vote for, whether that is today or on a future day, you might start to care!

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 9:56:07 PM
#182
Meow1000 posted...
What exactly was he doing when he vanished?
This implies that the action was put in at the time right before he vanished and i don't like you implying that, Blade.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 9:42:44 PM
#168
Kirby321 posted...
I didn't mean to imply that. Sorry. I was trying to say that MZero, being in a whole other time zone, might not get a chance to weigh in on Chang's grand reveal with his own opinions (independent of his role) if the day ends at the 24-hour mark.
I see, my bad. That's me reading negatively into everything now lol.

I don't understand why there's any talk of ending the day early to begin with.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 9:27:46 PM
#157
Kirby321 posted...
Chang, are you still committed to this?

I would mega appreciate if you let day run its full 48 hour course today. Like I said, there's a lot to discuss today, and 24 hours is not nearly enough, especially if your big reveal necessitates a lot of discussion that MZero may want to chime in on.
Why do you think mzero's results are related to Chang's?

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 9:23:01 PM
#151
changmas posted...
from everything i can see this is a very high power game in general, role madness or close to it.

I don't see why the other scum roles can't be equally nuts
Wallz' role is less relevant than mi's alignment in that picture, assuming Wallz is scum anything

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 9:06:31 PM
#123
Kirby321 posted...
Of those 10, I feel the worst about Wallz. Which, btw Chang, is who I'd pick for likeliest to be scum upon your self-town confirmation. I have reason to believe that your role is actually confirmable. I don't have reason to believe Wallz' is.
Let me paint you a picture.

There's a scum newbie with an incredibly strong role who is getting a lot of votes, and people saying they think he's scummy.

There's another scum player, this one a pretty experienced player who has a few votes but also some people strongly advocating for.

They're both the lynch leaders, with an hour to go until the lynch.

Then suddenly another train gets some momentum, being pushed by at least one town player. They get to be almost tied in votes!

But all of the scum team decide nah, you know what. Better to just vote out our super strong role and keep our other guy as the number two instead of chasing that possibility.

I think the only way Wallz can be scum is if MI is too.

I still want an explanation from you on how you confused Wallz and Knightz, and voted "the wrong one".

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 7:46:42 PM
#59
Blade is back to being streets behind

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 7:37:15 PM
#53
changmas posted...
frankly i'd prefer to get the show wrapped up before the 24hr mark actually and end the day just before it. i'm a little scared that the "lopen vanishing" role isn't a one time use and it would be pretty underwhelming if the leading man was taken away before his big moment, y'know?

it's just...i don't exactly have the MOST time tonight so i'd prefer to get the ball rolling tomorrow morning
I don't mind being respectful of irl obligations and such but I'm assuming if you had info to help us bury scum, you'd be a bit more straightforward with things. So whatever info you have, it basically only clears you to some extent, i presume.

Surely you can understand why i have done a 180 since yesterday on you.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 7:20:01 PM
#34
Meow1000 posted...
Also thinking Blade would ever send a night 1 kill is lol


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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 6 - And a Movie
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 7:14:18 PM
#17
In Chang taunts Lopen mafia, he was not a lightning rod and instead targeted a player. Any action that player committed would be redirected to him.

I suspect mzero to be more like that than a lightning rod that we have no evidence for

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 5 - Anatomy of a Trainwreck
PeaceFrog
05/02/24 6:52:23 PM
#434
Forceful_Dragon posted...
But he was one of knightz earliest aggressors so
It was also his first game, and Knightz' first time as scum. It's totally plausible that there was no plan.

Do i need to explain to you the pitfalls of trying to make sense of nonsensical scum actions?

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