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She is NOT fat.... she isn't even close to fat.
That girl is a normal, beautiful girl with nice breasts and a beautiful booty... she is NOT fat.

You want fat?
THIS is fat:


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Reincarnation STRONGLY depends on the following factors:

Can I pick a region and time period so I can at least (at the minimum conditions) come back in a middle class living situation in a normal country with modern technology or am I going to be thrown into some post-apocalyptic future where humans are dying out due to some mutating virus infecting other humans into becoming cannibal-rapists, making cannibal-rapists to become the dominant life-form on the planet and making normal humans like me their prey?

Whether I pick reincarnation strongly depends on what conditions I'm going to be thrown into.

I like the idea of reincarnation as long as I don't come back during a time period as a human where a real-life Skynet has machines killing off humans or I come back as a lobster only to be captured months later and be stuck in a tank in a fancy restaurant that wants to cook me up and serve my ass to some fat, rich lady high on expensive cocaine. I also don't feel like coming back as Chicken only to be running away a month into my life from some jerk in a coat with the word "Perdue" on his jacket next to the blood stain of my fellow chicken brothers and sisters.

EDIT: Oh, okay, I might POSSIBLY be okay with the following, but I would have to think very, very carefully about this (as well as doing research on my potential family as well as potential living environment prior to me picking my choice):

Zikten posted...

clean slate I guess. you forget but you get to pick who you will be before you go in. you can say "I want to be born in Nagoya, Japan to mr and mrs such and such

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YoungMakaiyum posted...

sneaky and cowardly.

The true definition of sneaky and cowardly is the following:

XXXTentacion beating up his pregnant girlfriend to the point where she almost went blind in one eye is sneaky and cowardly.

XXXTentacion physically attacking a gay man due to homophobia is sneaky and cowardly.

XXXTentacion physically attacking some of his fans who paid to go see him at one of his concerts is sneaky and cowardly.

XXXTentacio physically attacking others (one of which he ambushed in a f***ing bathroom) is sneaky and cowardly.

XXXTentacion, as shown in public court documents, doing a home invasion / burglary / assault which resulted in him permanently injuring someone innocent he was stealing from is sneaky and cowardly.
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YoungMakaiyum posted...

why are you writing essays on the guy

@YoungMakaiyum
Speaking for myself personally, whenever I see people say things like "his beats were fun and he had very very unique flows" and "im glad X apologized to Ski Mask The Slump God before he passed" and then start defending him by saying "Oh, he was changing! He was young, only 20, he was just a kid, he had time to change!" and "Oh, his baby frontal lobe was still developing, we shouldn't hold any mistakes against him, they were just mistakes." , IT ALL MAKES ME SICK considering there is actual video evidence as well as picture evidence (some of it in the posts above this one) showing that this jerk beat up his pregnant girlfriend to the point where she almost went blind in one eye, physically attacked a gay man due to homophobia, physically attacked some of his fans, physically attacked others (one of which he ambushed in a fucking bathroom), as well as public court documents showing he did a home invasion / burglary / assault which resulted in him permanently injuring someone innocent he was stealing from. I'm seeing countless Youtube videos of people crying over this asshole son of a bitch and saying he was a good person and they miss him. Fuck XXXTentacion... I know what he really did.... I know the evil this asshole did to others.
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Well, if we are breaking down the compilation video which shows XXXTentacion attacking multiple victims into each individual video, let's look at the infamous bathroom video where XXXTentacion sneak attacks someone in the bathroom.

From what I have been reading, the victim in the video had payed XXXTentacion to feature him on one of XXXTentacion's videos. XXXTentacion then turns around and claims that he is busy... and decides to keep the money. The victim in the video naturally gets pissed off since XXXTentacion isn't keeping his side of the bargain AND is keeping his money, so he goes off and starts talking shit about XXXTentacion (I don't blame him for taking shit about XXXTentacion since XXXTentacion didn't keep his promise and ran off with his money).

XXXTentacion gets pissed off, decides to go hunt down the guy, brings someone else to film the beat down since XXXTentacion wants video evidence so he can use the victim as an example for anyone else who talks shit about him, and long story short, XXXTentacion ambushes / sneak attacks the guy in the bathroom and proceeds to beat the shit out of him. This video shows a bit more than the version in the compilation version and also features sound:


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Iodine posted...

Was his music really that good? Because I don't understand this outpouring of support.

@Iodine
Honestly, I thought he sucked (and this is coming from someone who likes rap music and follows a large amount of it from over the years). But for whatever reason, a lot of people liked his music. I'll post one of his most well known music videos and let you decide (personally, I think this sucks ass, but others seem to enjoy it). Also, he was considered attractive by many females, so his popularity might be similar to Justin Bieber's. Regardless, here is one of his most well known music videos:



PhazonReborn posted...

Sounds like this is a "and nothing of value was lost" type of thing.

One less piece of shit

@PhazonReborn
Very much, yes. If you want to read up more about the horrible shit he did, post # 416 in this topic gives a nice "cliff notes" version of many of the things discussed in this topic (post # 416 is a collection of seven posts put together with some videos thrown in). If you want more in depth details (with additional video evidence since XXXTentacion was stupid enough to have others film some of the things he did) posts # 251 and # 252 along with posts # 302 through # 305 provide a large amount of in depth information.
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zzeennoolloo posted...

SavageGlum100 posted...

MikeGesicki posted...

He loved life.

@MikeGesicki

That is the best Youtube video relating to this XXXTentacion situation, mainly because she doesn't hold back and / or try to make XXXTentacion look like a saint that did nothing but good. XXXTentacion was a monster who did horrible, horrible things to people, that is the truth, and she lets everyone know it.

Seriously, that is the best XXXTentacion youtube video on the internet, because she just flat out says what many people are thinking about and would do the same if given the opportunity. I seriously give that girl a standing ovation for what she said about XXXTentacion. Also, just two minor corrections to her video: 1) it was his pregnant girlfriend at the time he abused, they weren't married and 2) While he didn't get the chance to actually sexually assault his pregnant girlfriend with the wired BBQ brush or Barbecue fork, he did legit threaten to do it to her, as she reported to prosecutors:

"Ayala told prosecutors that during one fight between the pair, he threatened to sexually attack her with either a barbecue fork or wire BBQ brush. He told me to pick between the two, because he was going to put one of them up my vagina, Ayala said in a deposition, according to the Miami New Times newspaper. She told authorities that he brutally attacked her every three or four days, the paper said, quoting her statements to officials. [H]e beat her at times, choked her, broke clothes hangers on her legs, threatened to chop off her hair or cut out her tongue, pressed knives or scissors to her face, and held her head under water, according to the paper. He would fill a bathtub, dangle a microwave over the water, and threaten to let go. His favorite thing was to just backhand my mouth, Ayala said. That always left welts inside my lips.

More info: https://pagesix.com/2018/06/19/xxxtentacions-ex-girlfriend-broken-after-his-death/

Also, just a reminder to what he did to her face (keep in mind that she came extremely close to going blind in one eye):





Dagon_0 posted...

I've dug two graves for us my dear
Can't pretend that i was perfect leaving you in fear
oh man what a world the things i hear, if i could act on my revenge oh would i?
Some kill, some steal, some break your heart and you thought that i would let it go and let you walk, well broken hearts break bones so break up fast and i don't wanna let it go so in my grave i rot.

Well, XXXTentacion was right about one thing: he truly will be in a grave, rotting away.
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Abyssea posted...

MikeGesicki posted...

He loved life.

and beating up his girlfriend.

.... and being homophobic by beating a man near death because he thought the other guy was homosexual and was looking at him.

.... and entering a place he wasn't suppose to and sneak attacking a guy who was in the bathroom and then proceeding to beat the shit out of the other guy in that bathroom for a few minutes.

.... and committing a home invasion / armed robbery / assault where he smashed his gun as hard as he could into the head / face of the victim he was robbing, causing PERMANENT injury and disability to his victim.

.... and attacking several others in actual fist fights, including punching out and / or legit threatening a few fans.

.... and attacking his girlfriend (while she was PREGNANT) in such a brutal way, she came extremely close to going blind in one eye.
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^The way XXXTentacion talks about nearly murdering that guy (just for looking at him) is disturbing.
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X posted...

Everyone forgetting bitch did him dirty while he probably was big bubbas bitch in jail. Typical white knights. Dude has mental issues that dumb bitch cheating on him triggered him. Im not defending him he's a piece of trash but so is that trashy tramp.

@Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X
Dude, he was torturing and beating the shit out of her BEFORE he went to jail. After he got out, she continued the relationship with him and he continued to beat and torture her... then it got REALLY worse when he found out she was pregnant (which caused him to beat and torture the shit out of her even more while she was pregnant. I can only imagine the long term problems the baby is going to have for years to come as they get older).

As for her cheating, that's speculation. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. However, let's play devil's advocate and say she did, does he have every right to be pissed off? Yeah. Does he have every right to curse her out? Yeah. But does he have the right to beat the living shit out of her to the point where she almost goes blind in one eye due to the mass amount of punches he did to her face? NO.

And for fuck's sake, even after all the bullshit he put her through, she still loved him (sadly, many abused women tend to do that.... they will seek their abuser. It's fucked up). And for fuck's sake, when I say he beat and tortured her, he truly tortured her:

zzeennoolloo posted...

and in a classic case of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME (and this is a sad classic case of a woman who was severely punished and abused, but still has feelings towards her abuser, despite her almost going blind in one eye due to the severe physical abuse she received from XXXTentacion as XXXTentacion beat the shit out of her while she was pregnant):

"XXXTentacion, whose real name was Jahseh Dwayne Onfroy, was awaiting trial for allegedly assaulting Ayala when he was fatally shot outside a motorcycle dealership in Florida on Monday afternoon. Ayala told prosecutors that during one fight between the pair, he threatened to sexually attack her with either a barbecue fork or wire BBQ brush. He told me to pick between the two, because he was going to put one of them up my vagina, Ayala said in a deposition, according to the Miami New Times newspaper. She told authorities that he brutally attacked her every three or four days, the paper said, quoting her statements to officials. [H]e beat her at times, choked her, broke clothes hangers on her legs, threatened to chop off her hair or cut out her tongue, pressed knives or scissors to her face, and held her head under water, according to the paper. He would fill a bathtub, dangle a microwave over the water, and threaten to let go. His favorite thing was to just backhand my mouth, Ayala said. That always left welts inside my lips.

MORE information: https://pagesix.com/2018/06/19/xxxtentacions-ex-girlfriend-broken-after-his-death/

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Three time WCW world champion, three time IWGP World champion, two time Triple Crown worlds heavyweight champion.... rest in peace:


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Solid Snake07 posted...

I realize a lot of you are probably very young yourself and don't have the perspective on this, but 20 is very young. I would consider someone that young a kid, a young man at best. it's an in between area, and one where a lot of change is happening.

Bullshit, 20 years old is not a fucking kid!! That's an adult! He wasn't 10 years old, he was 20. He committed some very fucked up crimes and was constantly violent. If he had lived, it was said he was facing a few DECADES worth of jail time at a minimum for all the things he was charged with and they most likely would have found him guilty for at least half the shit he was accused of at the trial that was suppose to happen a few months from now. Hell, one of the crimes (I do believe it was the home invasion / armed robbery . assault crime, one of many crimes he did) he did when he was 17 or so, but it was so fucking severe, they decided to trial him as an adult for just that one alone. Nevermind all the other illegal shit he did when he was 18 / 19 (like beating the shit out of his pregnant girlfriend, repeatedly, witness tampering, witness harassment, and tons of other shit). If he hadn't been shot, he would have rotted away the next few decades in a jail cell.

Most people by age 20 haven't even done half the illegal shit this guy had done.
Most people younger than him have enough sense to know that committing the bullshit he did is a fast way to end ones life (whether it's rotting away in jail or getting shot).
Most people his age and younger aren't pieces of shit who harm other people.

XXXTentacion was a piece of shit.
He should not be glorified.
He should not be considered the next Tupac.
XXXTentacion should be considered a piece of shit that the world is better off without.
There are many people in this world who do good things, yet are never recognized for it.
XXXTentacion shouldn't be recognized for anything but being a piece of shit.
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AllGodsDie posted...

XXX was a piece of shit, but he was young and didn't deserve to die when he had plenty of time in life to become a better person.

@AllGodsDie
A HUGE pet peeve that I have is people looking at scum bag criminals who did horrible things (like choke out a homosexual man just because the victim was homosexual and beat a pregnant woman within an inch of her life) and then say things like "they are still young, they have plenty of time in life to become a better person". This pisses me off for three reasons:

1) Scum bag criminals like that typically do NOT get any better, they get fucking worse and I guarantee that there would have been more victims as the years go by if this guy was still alive.

2) Their victims still suffer with psychological wounds, even if the attacker does somehow, by miracle, change his ways. Even with therapy, those psychological wounds might not go entirely away.

3) There are PLENTY of good, honest people who do great things, yet are never recognized for the good they do and typically either get ignored or undervalued. Fuck the scum bag criminals that do harm upon society, we should be paying attention to those who do good to begin with, NOT those who do evil who might POSSIBLY do good as they get older.

Also...

The_REAL_Duke_O posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

Jagr_68 posted...

20 years old...

Yep, probably going to get the Tupac treatment for sure.

Dude.

Wut?

How da fuck they comparable at all? Jesus.

@Jagr_68
@CanuckCowboy
I strongly doubt he will be getting the Tupac treatment. Two MAJOR reasons:

REASON # 1:

"XXXTentacion has a record of provoking controversy; on one podcast, he told a story about choking a prison inmate he believed was gay.

However it is the shocking allegations made against him by a former girlfriend (a PREGNANT WOMAN at the time she was with him) that have provoked the most outrage.

As The Daily Beast previously reported, XXXTentacion was arrested in October 2016 on multiple charges, including false imprisonment and witness-tampering. Excerpts from the deposition of XXXTentacions accuser (who was PREGNANT at the time), in which she alleged: He strangled her until she almost passed out. He took her to the bathroom and demanded one last time that she tell him everything or he would kill her in the bathtub. She couldnt even recognize her face in the mirrorit looked distortedand her left eye was completely shut and leaking blood. She was losing vision. She vomited.

SOURCE: https://www.thedailybeast.com/disturbing-video-emerges-of-rapper-xxxtentacion-hitting-woman

REASON # 2:

He sucks. I love rap music. Hell, when everyone was saying how bad Enzo Amore's rap (Phoenix) was, I defended Enzo since I really enjoyed his first rap music video.
HOWEVER...
I cannot say the same about XXXTentacion.
I dare anyone (even if you enjoy rap) to sit through this bullshit of a XXXtentacion music video without turning it off before it ends... watch ALL of it (it gets far worse and worse as it goes on)... I dare you.... and you will understand how much this guy sucks ass:

XXXTentacion was a scumbag of the Earth.
And his music sucks (and I typically like rap).
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KrayzieBonezz posted...

SavageGlum100 posted...

mariolover2 posted...

SavageGlum100 posted...

What the flying fuck at that music video.
I know it's not real, but who the fuck lynches a little kid?!?
They took a seven year old kid and they fucking hung him??? Yeah, it's just a story (not real), but what the fuck?
Horrible story telling, especially how fucked up that shit was (pick the little white elementary school kid for a lynching??)

White Southerners lynched nearly 4,000 black men, women and children between 1877 and 1950.

and how the fuck is lynching a 7 year old little white kid going to make this situation any better?!?!?

Resonates more when you're able to relate/ see yourself in the message. My grandparents lived around that type of stuff. Think about that.

I'm more upset about the amount of people we have that just record death now. I just saw the picture of him dead in his car. That's some dark wild s*** to just have on your phone to show people.

And like the other guy asked, HOW the fuck does lynching a 7 year old white kid make the situation any better? I'm sorry, but most people aren't going to see themselves as the image of the 7 year old white kid being hung in the music video, they are just going to sit there and think to themselves "What the fuck is this shit?".
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Anisoptera posted...

he makes those videos to be funny. He isn't actually a freak or anything. It's like thinking Fred (youtube) actually talks with a squeaky voice in real life or that Gordon Ramsay is short tempered in real life.

@Anisoptera
The more I think about it, that makes sense. It's just a character (like Francis is a character to Boogie2988). Hopefully he is able to explain this to his former employer and get his job back. Granted, even if he doesn't, from what I have been reading, he is loaded with tons of money to the point where he might not have to work for the rest of his life... he's supposedly rich.
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The_REAL_Duke_O posted...

SSJCAT posted...

That is one lonely man

@SSJCAT
Not very lonely. This guy is surrounded by tons of women in his Youtube videos. Granted, he's most likely paying them (probably found them at some weird underground brothel) and / or giving them a lot of drugs... probably a combination of both:

zzeennoolloo posted...

My god.... what is this shit?!?:

Sadly, that doesn't even come close to the worse this guy has done.
He has a Nintendo Switch video... I'm not sure if I can post it here (maybe... maybe not?)..... he .... does...... things.... to his Nintendo Switch...... which no one should be doing to a Switch.....
Oh...
and there is the "Pink Schlong Guy" video he made...
The Pink Schlong Guy video is something I can NOT post here...... I'm not even sure how the hell Youtube hasn't taken it down yet...... it's something VERY, VERY disturbing as fuck....

On a side note...

PMarth2002 posted...

While I found the pics posted to be funny, I can see why someone wouldn't want to be associated with this guy.

Especially given shit like this...

I read in the comments in one of his videos that he has (HAD) an extremely high paying job at a big bank over in Europe. But yeah.... what he does in that video is pretty freaking bad.....

What the flying fuck?!?!?
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^The new HD Spyro the Dragon collection from Activision comes out later this year and the damn thing is already doing very well in pre-orders. Activision isn't dying, it's dancing with a hot stripper while throwing tons of $100 dollar bills in the air and then using them for toilet paper and it doesn't give a damn because it's constantly getting tons of extra money per hour.
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Oh, I know where that's from. I remember now.
It's a REAL picture, but it was used in Canadian Club whiskey's ad where they were responding back to the stereotype that Canadian Club Whiskey is for old people, the "Dad's whiskey" as some younger people nicknamed it. Well, the Canadian Club company decided to roll with the stereotype and went with this marketing campaign. It actually worked and sales of Canadian Club Whiskey increased:


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The_REAL_Duke_O posted...

Ic3Bullet posted...

Does this picture make you proud of your masculinity, or ashamed of it?

Well, it looks like she is really horny and they are about 20 minutes away from having sex OR they just had sex 40 minutes ago and they are both chilling out while happy as hell because the sex was awesome. Either way, they seem like they are one hell of a very happy couple.

^THIS.
That's the type of couple that has lots of sex, has a nice amount of kids, and stays married in a very healthy, loving relationship till they are old as hell and pass away. I see nothing wrong here.
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The Demise of Sweden
(Original title: 'Invasion! How Sweden Became the Rape Capital of the West' by Cernovich Media)


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Bloodychess posted...

Gold medal mental gymnastics going on here to try and salvage the refugees image in Sweden.

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

is 60 minutes a tabloid?

They produce entertainment like Fox News does.

Not that it matters, individual examples are not evidence of a trend. Sad I have to explain that to adults.

Broseph, you think 60 minutes..... is a...... tabloid?!?!?



You tell the best jokes, Mr. Stalin.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

And you guys have been asked multiple times to back up these claims.

So all the news videos (like the opening video of this topic, which is from 60 Minutes on CBS, and the many other news videos in this topic) and multiple links and additional info and footage of real events.... you don't consider all of that to be backing up our claims? I guess it's not real... must be made from CGI. So footage such as the fucking RIOTS in Rinkeby, Sweden where the mother fucking city is on mother fucking FIRE because the immigrant gangs went on a G.T.A style destruction spree..... that entire riot was just CGI? Wow... that's some damn good CGI (looks like Michael Bay had a lot of fun filming this... especially the part where they set fire to a mother fucking car that's still mother fucking driving down the street:



Yeah.... and all heavy sarcasm aside, I would not nominate Sweden for a moron award (despite what the end of the video says.... I would give that award to certain people in the Swedish GOVERNMENT who fucked up (and also to a FEW citizens who supported certain dumbass politicians who had this immigration idea), and also give that award to the immigrant gangs causing the destruction. However, the majority of the common people living in Sweden are very nice innocent people who did NOT ask for this bullshit to happen to them. Most of them most likely thought that the government was doing a nice thing that would lead to more nice things...... and there are some in the government who have a good heart..... unfortunately, they didn't realize that the immigrants they were trying to help had other more sinister ideas in mind....
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zzeennoolloo posted...

Broseph_Stalin posted...

You're ignorant because you watch these videos. Anyone can upload anything to youtube, it's not a news source.

@Broseph_Stalin
SERIOUSLY?!?!?
Dude, several of the videos that have been posted in this topic are from LEGIT NEWS SOURCES (the opening video in this topic was from 60 MINUTES from CBS!!!!!). Just to use these three videos below as an example, the second video about rape and the third video about the No-Go Zones are from actual official NEWS sources that use statistics and several facts to back themselves up. Even the first video is a professionally made video made by DB TV where the guy filming WAS ATTACKED in a No-Go Zone. Sit down and actually SEE what is going on in Sweden:

SavageGlum100 posted...

mario2000 posted...

soon you guys will be claiming that sweden has been vaporized by alien aircraft that refugees called down

@mario2000
If by "vaporized by alien aircraft" you mean immigrants in Sweden VIOLENTLY ATTACKING American film producer Ami Horowitz when he was trying to film in a "No-Go Zone" in Sweden, then wow, thats one hell of a "vaporized by alien aircraft" :

If by "vaporized by alien aircraft" you mean immigrants raping innocent women at record breaking speeds (where the numbers of rape incidents have shot up by HUGE numbers ever since they started letting immigrants in) in Sweden, then wow, thats one hell of a "vaporized by alien aircraft" :

Sweden's 1472% (yes, mother fucking 1472%) Increase in Rape Rate Due to Migrant Invasion. Sweden is now number two on the list of rape countries, surpassed only by Lesotho in Southern Africa.

If by "vaporized by alien aircraft" you mean the number of 'no-go zones' in Sweden increasing (and this video below is an older video from last year when there were only 23 No-Go Zones where immigrant gangs had taken over small chunks of Sweden.... now that number is at fucking 55 and looks to be increasing beyond 55 if something isn't done) then wow, thats one hell of a "vaporized by alien aircraft" :

It's amazing how there is actual video evidence and legit statistics to show that the immigrants in Sweden are indeed a huge problem (to the point where several people in the Swedish government want to roll out the army to take back the "No Go Zones" the immigrant gangs have taken over before things get worse) and there are still people thinking that all of this is made-up.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Why did she push that guy?

The refugee was attempting to rob the person in blue on the left and the mother thwarted his attempt prior to this coward punching, kicking and spitting on her right in front of her children.
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Duncanwii posted...

Oliver_Oliver posted...

What have your classmates thought of this project? What are they planning on doing?

I don't talk to my classmates.

I strongly suggest asking a classmate or two about what they are doing. I don't want to give advice since this professor could be one of those professors who doesn't tell you anything but expects the paper to be written in a certain way and only a few select students know how to write it because they have friends who took the class in past semesters. What I said doesn't make sense, but it does happen since some college professors have their heads up their asses. So try talking to some classmates in regards to what they are doing. If you find that everyone is clueless, then make sure to back up what you are writing with A LOT of references. Don't give your professor any excuses in regards to finding something major in your paper that you didn't cite. At the same time, make sure to have plenty of your own stuff to say with the references backing you up.
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What have your classmates thought of this project? What are they planning on doing?
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Slip-N-Slide posted...

I'm not even really just speaking about refugees in general, I'm talking about human nature and what really everyone deserves as a basic human right in the modern world. Shelter, food, clean water, clothes, an education, and basic health care.
When you're bringing in poor, uneducated people to an area, regardless of their race or national culture, there will be increased crime. Let alone refugees who are likely refugees because they weren't exactly being exposed to the best environment they're fleeing from....

I'm not saying any of this makes crime okay, I'm simply stating that poverty + poor education = more crime, and that having racial tensions on top of that.

If you're going to bring an influx of people from a poor, uneducated, and violent area they're having to flee from, into a place that's not that, you're going to have to expect an increase in crime rate and should really try to tread lightly not biting off more than you can chew when taking in refugees.
When there's a valid refugee crisis that's a time where I think some sort of coordination through something that's generally useless like the UN could be helpful for making sure countries that are able to take on a reasonable load that they can properly accommodate, and get worked into some forms of education or job training if necessary to integrate them into society on that level. The idea being that you've helped with a human rights crisis by handling refugees, and that giving them a foundation like that would then basically be a ROI if you want to see it from that type of perspective. Once you integrate them into society like that and give them the means to function well in that society it'll come back around in terms of tax dollars and an all around improvement for future generations.
And I'm not taking about giving refugees that special treatment, I think that's what s first world nation should offer their citizens. Which I think is achievable with the right level of government efficiency and management. But that's ultimately where the biggest issue lies.

And I don't think opening your borders or having open borders in general will inherently mean more crime after time, just cause initial growing pains while people resettle.

@Slip-N-Slide
Sweden wanted to be the "humanitarian superpower of the world" and wanted to help as many people as possible. A very awesome and nice idea. Unfortunately, as someone else in this topic stated, it was the equivalent of a church letting a homeless meth head to spend the night only for the church operators to wake and see all their stuff destroyed / gone.

The immigrants that Sweden took in need to be sent back (assuming if that can even be done without a huge war between the immigrants and the native Swedish erupting due to the fact that the immigrants in Sweden are very violent). They are violent and they are beyond helping since they are literally biting the hands that feed them. Swedish humanitarians try to help them and the immigrants / refugees respond by literally kicking dirt in their faces.

These are reasons why the immigrants need to be kicked out (easier said than done) and why other countries need to close their borders to these people:

Australian Reporters attacked in Sweden by immigrants.



Arab refugee attacks woman (with two elementary school age children) in Sweden



Refugees attack Swedish celebrators with fire works.



There are many more examples aside from these.
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Turbam posted...

When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside!
You gotta take a stand, it don't have to hide!

"If you hurt my friends, then you hurt my pride.
I gotta be a man, I can't let it slide.
I am a real American.
Fight for the rights of every man.
I am a real American.
Fight for what's right - Fight for your life."


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Confidence? It's nothing but an illusion.

The_REAL_Duke_O posted...

Parappa09 posted...

what is it like to be american?

Well, back during PRE-1776, the British king was being an asshole and he fucked up some shit. Then the American colonists got pissed off and they fucked up some shit. Some dude name George Washington got SUPER pissed and he went Super Saiyan on a bunch of red coat assholes and blew those mother fuckers away with his super gun. From then on, we were bitter that we were laughed at, picked on, put down, so we got crunked up on some good shit and went ballistic on any sons of bitches that made us fucking irate. Now we do shit like this to anyone who tries to pull any shit on us:



Apologize we will not do.
Fuck that British king that caused us to go ape shit insane and do the Revolutionary War and shit. George Washington gave the finger to that sons of bitches, hell yeah!!!
Too Late to Apologize: A Declaration:

Fuck yeah!!!!!!!

Well, Britain is America's father and America is that kid that got pissed off with their daddy's unreasonable bullshit, revolted, and started a life of their own. Granted, years have passed and both the father and the child have made up and are now on much friendlier terms as both have matured over the years and have become better individuals, even if the child still prefers to live independently and doesn't want to go back to living with their dad.
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Confidence? It's nothing but an illusion.

Alf still holds up very strongly today.
Hell, some people are still making Alf music videos using modern day music:


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Confidence? It's nothing but an illusion.

Full Throttle posted...

One Texas Girl wrote "I'm 18 years old. I'm a senior in high school. When i saw your picture on the television, something attracted me to you..something so Sexy about your eyes are beautiful and the freckles on your face make you so handsome.

^Bullshit like this is the reason some girls get the shit beaten out of them by some asshole and then they go around saying bullshit like: "ALL men are pigs!!". Meanwhile, there are some nice guys out there (which some of those same girls rejected) sitting at home on Saturday nights wondering why the fuck they can't get a fucking date with a girl.
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Confidence? It's nothing but an illusion.

Full Throttle posted...

Nikolas - Could be sentenced to Death

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Confidence? It's nothing but an illusion.