Lurker > Mewtwo59

I say we just let Karla be drafted alongside Bartre. It's not like it's going to make a difference for Bartre's draft position.

That's how it was rolled, or else Black Mage Village wouldn't have been destroyed.

Well Boko, looks like it's us again.

Declare on Boko

Baltimore

I'd be interested in a draft.

Baltimore

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Kiryu will believe any word Rika says. Between his gullibility and his love of children, Rika won't even have to explain anything. Kiryu will just do it.

The issue with Mega Man teleporting ahead is that he needs to know where Samus is. He has no way of knowing that. Rika can tell him where she'll be when the teams meet, but that doesn't mean Samus is there from the start of the match.

How far away is the cable car from Samus's starting point? Can she not only get there before the other team, but also make sure that the cable car that she's on is the one the other team has to ride up?

Really interested in what Eddv has to say here. Samus without her arm cannon is reliant on her bombs, and when she did that in Federation Force, she looked very underwhelming (and she was giant there!)

Finally got around the watching the episode. I think it's hilarious that the first time the Shot in the Dark ends up working it's for someone who didn't even need it.

Also glad that Tika won immunity, since the two fun people on that tribe were the outsiders.

So I still put 400% DK at lower than Armstrong, who Raiden was able to beat. Raiden doesn't struggle with large enemies either, as seen in the Excelsus fight.

Honestly, this DK *might* be able to beat the RAY that Raiden fought at the beginning of the game. Might is the key word there, I still think RAY has an advantage. But that was Raiden at his absolute weakest in the game, and he still styled all over that thing. DK has Mewtwo's help, but if DK is fighting Raiden, Mewtwo has to deal with Gordon. Mewtwo probably wins first, but not quickly enough to save DK. And while Mewtwo's good, Raiden's better.

AriaOfBolo posted...

I also think he can tank a bit.

I also think Mewtwo is gonna debuff Raiden once he sees him as a threat. Confuse Ray will work well on him, Power Swap will benefit Mewtwo's mixed kit and hurt Raiden's physical one, and Guard Swap is also a boon here. Mewtwo's also got a party heal now!

Power Swap and Guard Swap actually don't work that way. The way they actually work is that they let Mewtwo pass its buffs to its teammates. Power and Guard Swap switch the respective stat stages the user and target. So say Mewtwo uses Calm Mind 3 times. It can pass that buff on to Bowser in exchange for Bowser's current buffs (which don't exist). It could also pass them to the other team, but I don't think Mewtwo has any way to lower its own stats in this setup to take advantage of that.

Knuckles

Isaac

MacArrowny posted...

You also neglected to mention Pokemon, the strongest turn-based series of all. Make the surrounding game and characters appealing and people have no problem with turn-based systems.

Pokemon doesn't even do that anymore and it still sells like crazy!

Every other instance of 'light' spells are clearly lightning. Whether it's Crono or Magus's lightning spells, or Robo's Shock tech. And Luminaire hits the same elemental resistance as those (just try using on the Magus refight when he's weak to lightning), so I don't see why it isn't lightning.

It hits the same elemental resistance as lightning spells do in Chrono Trigger. It doesn't matter what it is in other games. Unless you can show me something that absorbs electric spells in Chrono Trigger not absorb Luminaire, it counts as an electric spell.

Oh , good point. It would become an electric attack due to Luminaire, which Cloud absorbs. In Chrono Trigger, it makes the total damage the element of one attack in situations like this, so Cloud will just absorb the whole thing.

Oh yeah, Tretij spent a ton of time around it "piloting" it with his psychic powers, and he lived for another 21 years, and he died in a fight. All he had on was a gas mask and straight jacket, no nuclear protection gear or anything. While I won't say that it's perfectly safe, I think we have enough evidence that Tretij will be fine.

Considering that everyone in MGS5 who was around it never suffered any ill effects, it shouldn't cause any issues for the duration of the battle. Huey built the thing and he didn't die for another 13 years (from drowning). Anyway, if Sahelanthropus can't move, it forces the other team to come to it, and that's as straightforward of a fight as you're going to get here. Aigis dies to the rust thing, Crono can't do anything to it regardless of whether he thinks he's himself or not, and Tingle's dead by that point due to the ability.

It's not like it's going to be taking a lava bath. The only room that has that much lava is the center basement room, and that also happens to be the room that the magic ice freezes. If it ends up in the lava, it can just move. Even at a temperature like that, it's not going to transfer all that heat immediately.

Eli's not even really in the thing. It's weird, but he's got some sort of psychic connection with Tretij Rebenok that lets him control it. And Tretij Rebenok isn't in the thing either, he's floating outside it. There's no reason why he'd ever end up in the lava.

Sahelanthropus' armor was composed of depleted uranium, a byproduct of the creation of uranium-235, carrying about 23 tons of it on its body.

Melting point of Uranium is 1132C.

Bright red lava flows in Hawaii can get as hot as 629.4444 C, with the glowing orange flows getting hotter than 871.1111 C, according to USGS.

Sahelanthropus will be fine.

Even better. They sent multiple tanks at it and it didn't leave a scratch.

Well, the ice level should be more than enough to nullify the lava, so Sahelanthropus shouldn't have to worry about dying to it. There's the lower level, but the chunks from the upper level should help with that, since they have magical properties that freeze lava instantly. If Sahelanthropus destroys the upper floor, it's going to the bottom floor, where there's already a mechanic in the game where stuff from the top floor freezes stuff in the bottom floor. Also, there's not much lava in the room directly below the entrance. Odds of Sahelanthropus actually falling in it are pretty low.

Also to note that Cloud has gotten a lot stronger since the Nibelheim incident. If Cloud at his weakest can still survive being stabbed by Sephiroth, a much stronger Cloud should be able to survive something a lot stronger than that.

So if it is magically frozen, then the ceiling should be no different, yes? It'll act as a barrier, and if Sahelanthropus does break it, it'll just freeze over again.

Besides, there should be enough room for it to not have its head next to the ceiling. There's definitely enough room for Sahelanthropus in the 2D sidescrolling sections, and the main rooms should be about that size.

About the whole lava thing. Lava ceases to be molten around 700 degrees Celsius. The top floor of this dungeon is filled with ice. Either there's some magical force keeping things below 0 degrees Celsius and the lava isn't an issue, or the low temperatures of the upper floor are keeping the lava from becoming molten in the volcano.

If you want an example of what Sahelanthropus can do, here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNfB5S6xaY

So this match takes place in the Sword & Shield Dungeon (Maze?) from Oracle of Seasons. My team starts at the entrance on the first floor and the other team starts in the treasure room in the basement.

So there's two way this match can go. Either this place magically expands to fit Sahelanthropus, which means that it can go along and fight with the rest of the team and isn't hindered in any way, or Sahelanthropus barely fits, which leads it to just destroying the floor to try to cause a cave in.

In the first scenario, there's nothing anyone can do here to stop Sahelanthropus. Crono thinks he's some sort of immortal viking, so he's going to run in and get himself killed against it. It took the combined forces of Venom Snake's military to down Sahelanthropus. Aigis doesn't even come close to that kind of firepower even with her persona. She can't win this alone.

In the second scenario, Liquid just gets mad that he can't move that he starts trying to wreck the place to make room. He's probably going to have the floor cave in, which isn't good for the other team that's currently below mine. Sahelanthropus has a giant flame whip that it can use to have stalagmites jut out of the ground. There's also a cutscene where Snake thinks he has it trapped behind a cliff, then it just breaks the cliff down to keep chasing Snake. It has the legpower to casually kick tanks around. If it wants to make room, it'll make room. Even if the other team manages to survive the cave-in, they still don't have the firepower to down Sahelanthropus.

TL;DR: Sahelanthropus needs an army to be taken down. Crono thinks he's immortal when he's not, and Aigis doesn't have anywhere near the firepower needed to take down Sahelanthropus by herself. If the terrain is an issue, Sahelanthropus will just destroy it like it has in the past.

I can think of someone who can

I'm currently the bid leader for Lady Maria

We haven't had a cast mainly in their teens since 12. And even then Ashe was almost 20. 4/6 of XIII's cast is over 20 (and Vanille is 19), and all four of the main crew in XV are over 20.