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It's not discussed enough how a not insignificant amount of support for Israel from DC is for biblical reasons. Which means that there is not a single thing Israel could do in Gaza that would cause them to waver on that support.

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1717428578365669787?s=20

MarcyWarcy posted...

remember everyone fighting tooth and nail to swallow israel's dozen stories explaining their hospital bombing?

Are you talking about Al-Ahli Arab Hospital?

The conspiracy theories really do go both ways...

The-Apostle posted...

I used to get sick every single time I got a flu shot. After the last time I got sick (it was bad), I decided no more flu shots. This was 20 years ago, and I haven't had more than a cold, food poisoning, or Covid since then.

We're talking about deaths.

The-Apostle posted...

Eh, allergic reactions to vaccines happen. Someone I know had a heart attack after getting vaccinated but thankfully survived. Someone else I know fell into a coma but she's fine now. However, both cases were within a week or two of getting the vaccine.

Corelation causation

falayyou01 posted...

lets call out the real terrorists please Israel.

It's not mutually exclusive.

VFalcone posted...

Breaking: Hezbollah backs out of war(?) after US threats https://inews.co.uk/news/world/hezbollah-chief-hamas-attacks-joining-war-2731238

Maybe. Not gonna take a terrorist group at their word.

I believe it. Before the vaccines, had anyone ever heard of people dying from things like "heart attacks" and "strokes" and "COVID-19"? Those are all made up by the pharma industry so they can kill millions of people...for reasons unknown.

Nearly a quarter of Americans believe someone they know died from COVID-19 vaccine side effects, and even more say they might be willing to become plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 24% of American Adults say they know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Sixty-nine percent (69%) dont know anyone who died from being vaccinated against the virus. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Forty-two percent (42%) say that, if there was a major class-action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, they would be likely to join the lawsuit, including 24% who say its Very Likely theyd join such a lawsuit. Forty-seven percent (47%) arent likely to join a class-action lawsuit against vaccine makers, including 25% who say its Not At All Likely. Another 11% are not sure.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/killer_jab_24_say_someone_they_know_died_from_covid_19_vaccine

Because of Breaking Bad?

shockthemonkey posted...

The current Israeli government thats leading this charge against Gaza is not very popular - there is a ton of opposition to them from Israelis. Dont underestimate the resolve of Jewish people to see whats happening and dont assume theyre all standing by a government being led by a man who is currently being charged for corruption.

This is true. There had been unprecedented protests against the government for months. They were for unrelated reasons, but animosity and distrust towards the government was already running high before the war. There might be a rally around the flag sentiment (idk i've been waiting to see polls from inside of Israel), but I wouldn't be surprised if public opinion starts to shift among the more moderate/liberal Israelis as they remember that the people running their government / military are garbage people.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1719820464930083052?s=20

He's pretty well known. He hasn't produced anything truly great in the last few years, but NFR! is one of my favorite albums of the past decade.

Depends on the type of pet

Should we keep politics out of this?

thronedfire2 posted...

no, someone should post it without all the fluff

this article looks like an 8th grader needed an extra 500 words for their essay

It's the New York Times.

pnut027 posted...

I mean if I, as an aircraft mechanic, can learn to fix cars from YouTube, Im not sure why a doctor cant learn to perform surgery on YouTube.

If you do something wrong when you're working on your car, nobody gets disfigured.

Maybe he thought McDonald was a Jewish last name.

Bump

The bulge on the side of Peggy Hudsons belly was the size of a cantaloupe. And it was growing.

''I was afraid it would burst,'' said Ms. Hudson, 74, a retired airport baggage screener in Ocala, Fla.

The painful protrusion was the result of a surgery gone wrong, according to medical records from two doctors she later saw. Using a four-armed robot, a surgeon in 2021 had tried to repair a small hole in the wall of her abdomen, known as a hernia. Rather than closing the hole, the procedure left Ms. Hudson with what is called a ''Mickey Mouse hernia,'' in which intestines spill out on both sides of the torso like the cartoon characters ears.

One of the doctors she saw later, a leading hernia expert at the Cleveland Clinic, doubted that Ms. Hudson had even needed the surgery. The operation, known as a component separation, is recommended only for large or complex hernias that are tough to close. Ms. Hudsons original tear, which was about two inches, could have been patched with stitches and mesh, the surgeon believed.

Component separation is a technically difficult and risky procedure. Yet more and more surgeons have embraced it since 2006, when the approach which had long been used in plastic surgery was adapted for hernias. Over the next 15 years, the number of times that doctors billed Medicare for a hernia component separation increased more than tenfold, to around 8,000 per year. And that figure is a fraction of the actual number, researchers said, because most hernia patients are too young to be covered by Medicare.

In skilled hands, component separations can successfully close large hernias and alleviate pain. But many surgeons, including some who taught themselves the operation by watching videos on social media, are endangering patients by trying these operations when they arent warranted.

Dr. Michael Rosen, the Cleveland Clinic surgeon who later repaired Ms. Hudsons hernias, helped develop and popularize the component separation technique, traveling the country to teach other doctors. He now counts that work among his biggest regrets because it encouraged surgeons to try the procedure when it wasnt appropriate. Half of his operations these days, he said, are attempts to fix those doctors mistakes.

''Its unbelievable,'' Dr. Rosen said. ''Im watching reasonably healthy people with a routine problem get a complicated procedure that turns it into a devastating problem.''

Ms. Hudsons original surgeon, Dr. Edwin Menor, said he learned to perform robotic component separation a few years ago. He said he initially found the procedure challenging and that some of his operations had been ''not perfect.''

Dr. Menor said that he now performs component separations a few times a week and that, with additional experience, ''you improve eventually.'' He said he had a roughly 95 percent success rate. In Ms. Hudsons case, he said, the use of component separation was warranted based on the complexity of her hernia and her history of prior abdominal surgeries.

Component separation must be practiced dozens of times to master, experts said. But one out of four surgeons said they taught themselves how to perform the operation by watching Facebook and YouTube videos, according to a recent survey part of a broader pattern of surgeons of all stripes learning new techniques on social media with minimal professional oversight.

Other hernia surgeons, including Dr. Menor, learned component separation at events sponsored by medical device companies. Intuitive, for example, makes a $1.4 million robot known as the da Vinci that is sometimes used for component separations. Intuitive has paid for hundreds of hernia surgeons to attend short courses to learn how to use the machine for the procedure. The company makes money not only from selling the machines but also by charging some hospitals every time they use the robot.

Many surgeons even some paid by device companies to teach the technique havent learned how to properly carry out component separation with the da Vinci. In fact, at times they are teaching one another the wrong techniques.

The robot comes with a built-in camera that makes it easy for doctors to record high-resolution videos of their surgeries. The videos are often shared online, including in a Facebook group of about 13,000 hernia surgeons. Some videos capture surgeons using shoddy practices and making appalling mistakes, surgeons said.

One instructional video, paid for by another major medical device company, showed a surgeon slicing through the wrong part of the muscle with the da Vinci. Experts said the result could have been devastating, turning the abdominal muscles into what one described as ''dead meat.''

Peper Long, a spokeswoman for Intuitive, said the company hired ''experienced surgeons'' to lead its training courses. ''The rise in robotic-assisted hernia procedures reflects the clinical benefits that the technology can offer,'' she said.

In interviews with The Times, more than a dozen hernia surgeons pointed to another reason for the surging use of component separations: They earn doctors and hospitals more money. Medicare pays at least $2,450 for a component separation, compared with $345 for a simpler hernia repair. Private insurers, which cover a significant portion of hernia surgeries, typically pay two or three times what Medicare does.

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In June of 2021, W.L. Gore & Associates, a medical device company that makes surgical mesh used in hernia repairs, posted a video tutorial on its website. It promised to be a step-by-step guide to component separation surgery.

A surgeon narrated as he cut the patients abdominal muscles, releasing tissue so he could close a hernia. But he was operating in the wrong place and likely created a new hernia, according to four surgeons who reviewed the video.

''It absolutely trashed the abdominal wall,'' said Jeffrey Blatnik, who directs the Washington University Hernia Center. ''It was so offensive to the point that we reached out to the company and told them,'You guys need to take this down.'''

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In 2018, Dr. Willie Melvin performed a component separation with the da Vinci on Jennifer Gulledge, whose large hernia made her a good candidate for the operation. But he cut into the wrong part of the muscle, leaving new holes on each side of her body and too little slack to close her original hernia, another surgeon concluded after reviewing her case.

Less than a week later, he performed an emergency surgery to close the original hernia. But the side tears remained.

Dr. Melvin declined to discuss Ms. Gulledges case. He said he had a lot of experience with complex hernia cases that other surgeons have referred to him and that he and his partner performed about three component separation surgeries a month. Intuitive paid him more than $25,000 last year to demonstrate his technique to other surgeons and to check the work of doctors who are new to robotic surgery.

In February 2020, Dr. Ajita Prabhu, a Cleveland Clinic hernia surgeon who has studied the frequency of failed component separation, operated on Ms. Gulledge. Dr. Prabhu told her patient that she would try her best, but that the damage from the original surgery was probably irreparable.

She was right. Even with her abdominal muscles sewed back together, Ms. Gulledge lived with intense pain. Routine tasks were difficult: When she changed her granddaughters diaper, she had to remind the 2-year-old not to kick ''grandmas bad belly.''

In August, Ms. Gulledge drove 700 miles to Cleveland for a follow-up appointment. She spent four days on the road, sometimes stopping every 30 minutes because it hurt too much to remain behind the wheel.

When Dr. Prabhu examined her, she confirmed Ms. Gulledges fear: Another hernia had opened up.

Mickey Mouse Hernia is my grindcore band's name.

Also, wtf!

https://tinyurl.com/44f5n3vd

alphagamble posted...

were the arrows necessary

They were on the sign already. Just to make it crystal clear.

Wow.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/1/AASbx8AAE_TB.jpg

Reading people's thoughts sounds more like a curse.

He's sticking with his self-aggrandizing stunts even thought no one outside of Florida gives a shit. Bless his heart.

Animal Collective

I dunno why they decided not to bring it to the Switch. It would probably sell well.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1718332255938973995?s=20
See ya.

Kansas used to be very progressive. And then the Jesus people took over.

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1717886999359565976?s=20

And of course this asshole is running his campaign.

https://twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1717884827288969320?s=20

Dean is so bland and unremarkable that's he's my representative and I can tell you almost nothing about him. He's the heir to a shitty liquor company.

At least Johnson ends the idea that moderate Republicans exist in the House. The people opposed to Jordan were opposed because he's a gross person, not for ideological reasons.

Hamas Israel Sonic the Hedgehog

They messed up the whole final season.

ZaruenKosai posted...

No one is denying Israels right to exist (even if it was founded illegally, I would not ask Israel to give up their land)
we are merely asking for that same rights for the Palestinians. Israel can still be Israel , there is more than enough land there for both.

Lots of people are asking for that actually.

"From the river to the sea"

What should happen to Israel? Should it no longer exist?

@Metroid_Food

https://twitter.com/bgmasters/status/1717586000191390159?s=20

He's running in a district he doesn't live in against an election-denying loser (who also doesn't live in the district).

https://twitter.com/AbrahamHamadeh/status/1717594177381572958?s=20

VFalcone posted...

Questioning the death count at this point seems like such a copout to downplay how many people may be getting killed. It's like:

"6,500 people are dead in Gaza. Many children"

"Eh that's what Hamas says. Can't really trust their numbers. We'll probably never know how many are really dying"

All it sounds like is trying to downplay it or cast doubt. Like, I get it, but even Israeli media and the IDF who are very supportive of Israel are still posting the same Palestinian death toll numbers. And for what it's worth, the IDF claimed they found the bodies of 1,500 Hamas on day 1 or 2 and that did not raise the tolls.

Anyways...

I don't have any doubt that the civilian death total is horrific and I was more or less accepting the numbers coming out from Gaza, but after Hamas claimed what now appears to have been a drastically inflated amount of casualties at al-Ahli Hospital, I think the media should be a little more critical of the numbers they're receiving and reporting.

Metroid_Food posted...

Denying deathcount is like standard genocide tactics. Those totals are far less than the actual numbers since hundreds of people are still missing. There's no reason whatsoever to doubt those numbers since this is not the first time israel has conducted massacres of this kind, and it's especially violent. If anything, the numers err on the far lower spectrum.

Yeahhh no. Not taking a terrorist group at their word isn't a genocide tactic.

VFalcone posted...

I don't know. I only relay the numbers from the sources. I can say that when I do look for the death toll, I make sure that's what all of the sources are saying.

There's only one source for death totals in Gaza.

darkace77450 posted...

Nothing. They swapped out a Trump's feckless sock puppet for a true believer. The end result is still the same: governmental dysfunction and fascist dogwhistles.

I think the biggest change will be much more of an effort to impeach. Kevin knew it was dumb but ultimately took some steps in that direction because he's a little bitch. New guy is going to be fully committed.

There's a decent chance Johnson is completely in over his head. He's the least experienced speaker since the 1880s and doesn't have relationships with McConnel, Schumer, and Biden and is going to need to quickly hire a bunch of new staff. He also is going to be expected to raise massive amounts of money for House Republicans, which he has zero experience doing. Nancy Pelosi would raise 100+ million annually.

So is Ukraine funding fucked?

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1717122156734071177?t=KunRToHm6XwXucN-Tbbf1g&s=19

Inohira posted...

More impressive than a Speaker being elected is Johnson only needing one ballot.

Has he found the perfect mix of insanity and plausible deniability? >_>

With a heavy dose of urgency.

https://twitter.com/RepSantosNY03/status/1717230943046439387?s=20

Lmao way to be offensive to literally everyone.

https://twitter.com/TiredMemeClown/status/1715788718575845819?t=U9CVlh7lRpoWkHx3GHLJMQ&s=19

I think if you're looking at this through the lens of race, you're missing the big picture. The average Israeli and Palestinian are both olive-skinned Middle Easterners whom you could not tell apart if they wore the same clothes.

Gift card on Amazon for Amazon.

Quorthon109 posted...

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1717170722198438007

Why would the Republicans who rejected Jordan and Scalise go for this guy?

Ken Buck gave a convoluted answer on CNN about why he wouldn't support Jordan but why he is going to vote for Johnson.

I think if Johnson were the pick a week or two ago that he might not have had the votes, but people like Buck are now willing to walk back their principles.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1717174447759655044?s=20

NGL I thought this topic would be about him potentially running for Speaker. For a second I forgot he was a criminal.

Oh boy

https://twitter.com/IndyUSA/status/1716889449907298366?s=20

Don't shroom and fly.

hockeybub89 posted...

Oh good another round of "Which side has been more humanely murdering innocents?" like it fucking matters. The world is sick.

I think the primary importance of this is because of the people minimizing/denying what happened.

Welp that's enough beheaded videos/images for me.

Tora_Sami posted...

Well guess we better start talking about what a government shutdown will be like. If it lasts a long time and does major damage to America, will Biden get the blame cause Americans are stupid?

Nah. There is no way they can pin this on Biden. They'd love to, but he has no role in their squabble.