Lurker > MZero

Yes there is.

Setup is grossly imbalanced if 3 n1 deaths is possible

Ulti and MZero do not have to be scum for this to work, they can just be lazy.

Are you saying I'm scum

Oh please do pursue that!

Also boiling down the activity to speculation on Corrik is reductive

Your exasperation seems fake. You're so sure hb is scum. Why. Build on that, lead the day yourself.

Because of his attitude about some things. Like he's overreacting to certain things.

I just don't think he gets quite this much pressure today if he's scum. Scum would have found a way to divert attention by now.

Sorry. You played well. Corrik is just too good though. Regardless of Death's alignment, we know he isn't lying about the ward. Therefore, Corrik's target has to be Poppy.

Death and Kirby are both scummy due to claimed actions so it is prudent to figure out what the lies are here

Corrik dying is just supporting evidence

So there are two possibilities

It's Corrik. Nothing is out of the question for him.

I don't agree Hb looked as bad as anyone else either. His content was insulted way more than it should be, regardless of alignment, he had fine arguments.

Corrik's description itself is very weird, what does cover your tracks mean, is that what some item would do maybe?

I think any suggestion that Corrik would target someone he suspected at night is ridiculous unless you can find a solid hint. What good should that do town otherwise?

I'm not ready to rule out Corrik being shot directly, he has been very good the past two games, it would definitely be a good kill for a scum team that has nothing to go by. Lea kill surprised me too and I'll be trying to think of what scum team would do that. But I suppose she was town to everyone but me and that they knew she had more to role so they knew they killed power.

I'd like to move away from Hb right now. His responses so far have been fair, and I don't think the current arguments against him are solid. If he couldn't show up at the end of the day, that's that. I'm not feeling as strongly on Hb anymore. We can revisit him later, but let's investigate some other players.

Also consider this

The main reason why hb looks bad is because he avoided Sultan lynch and afked on Kirby

Consider the possibility Kirby is also scum-- how does it make hb look then?

like it's been a long day and i get to come into people insinuating I'm lying about having work and scummy for not being psychic about who the lynch target was going to be. If you guys think for literally a second these arguments are full of holes.

dude your reason for voting me was oh he left immediately after posting thats sus despite literally no one posting and your reason for staying there was literally just parroting what other people have been saying

and yet. For some reason. Im the one who gets considered tunneling. You havent put up a single original argument for me to respond to.

Oh wow Locke needs at least one more run is what Im seeing from that.

Usually you sit back and are relatively inactive until later in the game where you start to open up with logical play, after having gotten enough information to make such reads.

This isn't how your town game usually is either.

Mzero, why you acting different this game?

I think what he is claiming to do on the last page doesn't jive with what a player trying to solve the game would actually be doing. Let's go through his posts.

855 est
- post 258 complains about amount of new content when I scummon him. "100 new posts"
1021 est (so about 90 minutes later)
- post 276 he lashes out at me and claims he's "trying to understand the shop" also claims Ulti is suspicious because he has many reads without justification. He claims I never mentioned him before my list and I explain this is false I've mentioned suspecting him several times including in my first post of the game.
- post 278 he snipes back that I had "pretty weak reasonings" this hostility in these two posts feels weird for Sultan
- post 285 he says "he's still catching up!!" when I point out how little content he's posted
- post 293 he mentions he did an ISO on me when I suspected him "Sultan doesn't like Millers that is fake argument that you reiterated after I asked so you know that is why I got distracted" this is not only a weird thing to claim he used his time on but also not something I said (it was Mzero) I was suspicious that he accepted Kirby's Miller claim so easily. He also says he's caught up now, 8 minutes after stating he's not caught up.
- post 296 he tries to drum up support to lynch Ulti and hb

He leaves, adding no content of value after catching up

I think he's lying about "reading the shop"
I think he's lying about doing an ISO on me and only said it because I was asking why he knew I wasn't mentioning him if he wasn't caught up (he had nothing to say about me that wasn't defensive)
I think he's lying about "catching up" because reading the game to do nothing with your read is pointless
He's been lurking
He was too quick to accept Kirby's Miller claim early

Ok you know what, I'm getting fucking sick of this. People keep popping in calling me scummy with basically no evidence. Sultan, I'm going to ask you directly: What makes me so scummy? Describe how I've been anti-town

hi guys, i see this game has already gotten a bit spicy

I wouldn't be that quick to assume that, especially in a role madness game, ESPECIALLY on page 1.

Question that I'd love for everyone to answer (perhaps except for the two in question because that's useless info). Assume you know for certain that there's scum in Lea/Kirby, who do you think it is? Both is a valid answer. Neither is of course not.

It's a good question for scum to ask. I don't see the benefit for town to ask that question. If I say yes, scum would now have zero incentive to shoot me to make use of my power.

What does town stand to gain from prying that deep into my role?

Look at all the trash left in this contest.

It's a good question for scum to ask. I don't see the benefit for town to ask that question. If I say yes, scum would now have zero incentive to shoot me to make use of my power.

What does town stand to gain from prying that deep into my role?