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Unbridled9 posted...

I don't think it's even the wages, it's the treatment. I mean, when you have to deal with screeching customers and managers who won't stick up for you and, instead, will hang you out to dry... Or jobs where you get punished for not being able to stock 30 large-sized products in 10 minutes despite the ****ing drones constantly bringing you nothing but damned small-size storage bays... Yea. No wonder that minimum wage becomes unacceptable. Personally I theorize that if someone actually got a job they ENJOYED doing, the wage wouldn't actually matter all that much. Like, if you got someone who enjoyed woodworking a job building tables, so long as they got paid enough to cover expenses, they wouldn't really care HOW much they got paid. But instead we get a bunch of people stuck in meaningless service jobs where the only incentive to work is that, if they don't, the crippling debt that they're drowning in will only pile up MORE and they're unable to afford to live anymore.

Oh. The treatment probably does suck a bunch at certain ones. Obviously, some are better if they have good managers and shit. But Im not sure what would actually solve that issue other than people being nice.

And while it would be great if everybody could do a job they liked, its probably not feasible. Many jobs that need people to work are things like cashiers, stockers, fast food workers, etc Many of those jobs are manned jobs that we need people in. A better wage would be good. But at 40 a week rather than 24 or something Because we need people in those jobs, and those people need those jobs. Even if those jobs werent needed, its not like everybody could work their dream job. Many people already have trouble finding a spot open in their dream job. I mean, theres only so many spots. Not too mention that some people have a passion for a job. But then hate it when they work it. Either because they started hating it because it became work, or realized they actually didnt like it as much as they thought they would

And while I agree that some people wouldnt mind the wage if they got to do a job they enjoyed, I think wage would still matter to most people

Unbridled9 posted...

I think a huge part of the issue is that, while it's true smaller companies would be hurt immensely by having to pay more for a minimum wage (and it NEEDS to be taken into consideration), you also have these large, massive, mega-corps that make bonkers money yet treat their workers like complete garbage while paying them minimum wage. It's practically a meme at this point just how terrible amazon treats it's employees for example. Having worked there I quickly realized it was SUCH a garbage place that I'd rather be out on the streets eating sandwiches from the trash than working for them.

This is also a major reason why the anti-work movement exists in the first place. After all, you're working a positively MISERABLE job for minimum wage to barely afford living under the stairs like a modern version of Harry Potter minus the magic while bosses and CEO's own things you could never even dream of (like private boats).

Yeah. Places like Target, Walmart, Amazon, and then like could afford it. Though, it would make things worse for the customers. Less people working, and probably open for less time. And shelves probably wont be fully stocked. Packages will probably take even longer to arrive. Especially if you cutting everyones hours nearly in half

Either way, I do think that the smaller businesses do need to be taken into consideration

Revelation34 posted...

Walmart could probably afford to pay $50 per hour.

Big places like Walmart or Target could. But probably wouldnt want to. Walmart barely wants to keep cashiers working there

BlackScythe0 posted...

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Sounds like the other mom is a fucking bitch if she just randomly calls the cops like that.

Especially since it's the friend of her son. If anything, you think she'd want to help more than hurt...

JF7X posted...

How is having an older sibling looking after younger siblings a crime again?

Its not

I mean, it said the babysitting child had to be 13. And her daughter was 14. It was legal. The warning she was given before should have no bearing on this case since she followed the rules this time. This police officer claims he wants the neighborhood to be safe, but also doesnt seem to actually care about her family since she has to leave the kids at home to go to work. But whatever, I guess

Arcturusisnow posted...

sure it's possible. Just stop giving benefits to companies that don't raise the salaries of their employees to a living wage at minimum. The normal people will thank you and vote for you everytime.

Sounds nice, but not every company has the extra money to do it. Some companies make enough to pay people, and to keep the company running. Making it so you can pay all your employees not only more money for much less time would probably bankrupt most companies. Many companies already have full time employees working a 40 hours work week. Wolfy wants to cut that by 40%. Some people may have still been struggling on that, while some were ok. But he stills wants to them make about the same amount (or more) for 60% of the work. And because they are only working 60% of the time, that would also mean less people working when they need it. So, they would need to hire more people, paying them the insane wages/salaries, as well While it would be possible for some places, not everywhere can do that. Especially smaller places. Like many local places that hire outside the family

So, youre telling companies to cut their workers time by 40%, while also raising their salary/wage up enough so they are making the same amount or more for 40% less work, and paying more people because if the workers are only working 60% of their normal time, they need more people to cover those empty spaces

Even with UBI (in the testing areas), many people were still working because they only made a little that helped them, rather than enough to live off of. They also couldnt quit because it was a testing phase that would eventually stop...

Also, some people would just end up with two jobs since many are already use to the 40 hour work week (or would rather not be at home for that long), which would probably help with lowering the value of money since some people will be getting a ton

wolfy42 posted...

you couldn't just willy nilly implement it while you still had millions of jobs that needed to be filled.

Yeah. Because if you gave people enough money to live off of without working, many would just continue to not work

wolfy42 posted...

Once those jobs are filled or done by machines, that is a different story, but that is also a different decade cause we are not gonna be there before 2030 at this rate.

Id be fine if automation never came

wolfy42 posted...

Before a UBI, make it so people can live on working a 24 hour work week at even basic/min wage jobs, by supplimenting them up to a base cost of living (in their area).

I dont think this is even possible Like at all Not anytime soon, at least

wolfy42 posted...

Is it any good? I was thinking about trying it.

Im enjoying it so far. On episode 3

The first episode is a little slow. But its setting up all the characters

Started All of Us are Dead today

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