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https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2017/march/trump-clinton-debates-gender-reversal.html

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The King Wang.
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I mean it's a woman with the greatest crossover appeal so it's clearly wrong.

And they did have a woman as VP as their pick not too long ago and the biggest objection wasn't that she's a woman but an idiot. Yet plenty of republicans still voted that way!

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The King Wang.
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2012 missing Humanity Has Declined and Space Brothers.


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The King Wang.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Yeah, plus if the DCCC has the magical ability to gerrymander things so well that even AOC (one of the most recognizable figures in the democratic party who just beat a democratic incumbent anyway) is in trouble, why wouldn't they do it in such a way to eliminate a republican seat?

Frank Lutz is a big dummy is the point I'm trying to make here.

A few corrections to make here.
1, she didn't exactly beat a democratic incumbent, she primaried him. It wouldn't be a problem now but it's important to note as a big distinction as that's what she's actively doing to others. She's not kicking out Republicans, she's kicking out democrats.

2, as a result of that it's democrats who hate her more than republicans, who are challenging her more, and who need to be more fearful. So when the state Congress picks people you're gonna get a united front of democrats and republicans that don't like her.

3, the ability to redraw district lines isn't some odd power, it's what happens after the census. She's in trouble there because her district may not be able to matter due to weak numbers. A lot of republican ones won't have that problem.

3, I wasn't basing anything off that guy. I was basing it off an issue that's been known for, and has been established by her specifically, as a problem for about a year now. It's come up again recently as a concern as we cemented our loss of a seat and should come up more often throughout the year. Those are her words.

4, she could indeed try to run elsewhere but at that point it'd be an actual election process, not just a primary. She's not gonna be able to sneak by like that again.

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The King Wang.
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She's had district problems for a while because her district has a lot of illegal immigrants and there's fears of the already existing underreporting escalating further. She herself addressed this issue months ago. Like almost a year ago.

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/09/ocasio-cortez-district-redistricting-2020/

It's literally what she's said herself. The biggest problem she faces are Dems, not Republicans. Hell, she's recently mentioned that there's a ton of people fighting for her seat right now. As it stands we're losing one for sure, a second is possible depending on the numbers. If she's going to continue pissing off every other official, then the people who the state senate and state assembly pick aren't likely going to be people who like her. So tie together her having few political allies at either state or federal level with a district expected to have low turnout on a candidate that is actively wants to be a pain in the ass and you've got yourself a solid recipe to cut her out procedurally. It'll be a lot easier than electorally.

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The King Wang.
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Meanwhile in plane news, Iran took back their claim that the plane had changed direction too.

So we've gone from...

Malfunction
Technical error, either due plane or pilot
Air collision
Engine malfunction
(No black box, bulldozing, we did nothing)
Okay we did it BUT the plane did a sharp turn
Okay we did it

Next step in this admission is that they were incredibly irresponsible to allow commercial flights while in that state.

And after that i look forward to seeing it be a rogue soldier.
Then his division.
Then a general.

Edit:
Okay i should've kept reading this Times article, we already hit that part. Now it's "jamming" and a general leading air space units has accepted fault. So we skipped the individual and went to the general at least. So next step after that is there was no jamming but at this point we're pretty high up the chain.

Mr. Hajizadeh, the Iranian official who accepted responsibility for the missile strike, said the plane had been misidentified as a cruise missile and was shot down with a short-range missile that exploded near the plane.

He said the Iranian missile operator had acted independently because of jamming. Asked during his address why Iranian airspace was not shut to commercial air traffic amid the attacks, Mr. Hajizadeh had no clear answer.

I wish I was dead, Mr. Hajizadeh was quoted as saying by local news outlets. I accept all responsibility for this incident.

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The King Wang.
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Taken to its logical conclusion the blame game would end up going around the world and it'd e everyone's fault. Trump would go back to Obama which would also go to Bush and so on. Including their voters, so if you voted for Obama back in 2012 you're at fault too. Hell, we'd be at fault for 9/11. Similarly you'd have the opposing sides all at fault too (pick your Middle East county) and work that butterfly effect backwards to who knows how long. Everyone did everything wrong.

Which is why nobody really uses blame and fault like this. Who pulled the trigger, did it happen of their own will, cool, done. These two aspects can be debated depending on the specifics but there's not much debate here, they just fucked up, desperately tried to cover it up, and failed.

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The King Wang.
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Oh wow.
Chapelle is gonna campaign for Yang in South Carolina.

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The King Wang.
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AOC might not be in office soon anyway considering her district is on the shortlist for the one that may be cut after the census. If she wants her house seat she should focus back on her community, or she very well won't have one. Which may be for the best considering she's less there representing them and more kind of her own thing and is better elsewhere.

On plane news, Iran is now literally bulldozing the area, with pictures of bulldozers in the area, and them saying they wouldn't do it. Meaning they're doing it as fast as fucking possible.

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The King Wang.
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Steyer doesn't offend me but his spending does. The man's put down 100 mil on the election. In terms of donations he doesn't need them and he's spending his own money, the only purpose is to get him on the stage.

But he's not memorable in any way, he's just there. He's their Kasich.

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The King Wang.
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Who on earth is donating to Steyer

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The King Wang.
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Honestly i don't know. Like i see an article on the NYT saying "this is the moment it got hit!" using the same video. But I can't tell a damn thing and have no idea how true that is: it's dark, a flash of light, and it's 19s. You can't tell region, item, or anything. I'm skeptical of any new media on things like this because I've seen them fooled way too often in recent years so I'm not gonna trust pics or videos unless it's firmly verified to being exactly what it says it is.

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The King Wang.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Are you talking about the defence budget? Doesnt seem like bullshit. The House actually approved those amendments back in July. That means the Senate stripped them out, then later most Dems caved instead of risking a government shutdown. Then this disaster happens. Progressives get to say "I told you so" and war hawks are happy but everyone else including guys like Lee here are upset they got outplayed by an incompetent administration and on damage control. Checks out to me.

Bipartisan compromise at work!

Hm, maybe I'm being too harsh on the house Dems then. I remember there were three, one of which was by Tulsi, and it was so simple and clear. I'm all in favor of reigning in the executive as that's long overdue. As it stands he can do just about anything.

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The King Wang.
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It's a malfunction because they hit the wrong one.
Not that I think that aspect matters since an uptick of terrorism just means more deaths without them being attributed as the source.

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The King Wang.
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Of course it's not the end.
On the US part, we're still gonna be in the region and are offsetting our troops for NATO troops (so still ours). Iraq probably isn't too thrilled with Iran either so they're gonna be more open to us shuffling around like that. On Iran's part, their revenge is in terrorism. Not this. If it was an attack on a plane that'd be more like it, though they'll try their best to say it's a malfunction and, should that fail, blame other forces. Anything to not have Canada, the UK, Ukraine, and Germany on their back for dead citizens (Sweden is more of a pushover but they've got some too.

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The King Wang.
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That all still sounds like bullshit.
There were multiple amendments lined up to limit Trump's ability to use force in Iran. All were removed. Dems approved of this. No doubt Republicans too, it's what both want.

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The King Wang.
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Do note the amount of theatre done here by the way. Iran said they killed 80 Americans in their attack, we've said it's 0. Iran is refusing to give Ukraine - or anyone - the black box and immediately said it was a malfunction, still unknown.

Just keep in mind how much their lying escalated the issue and how their lying is trying to protect themselves while also tooting their own horns. And it's not like we aren't lying either, we don't know what "minimal damage" means. But 80 to 0 is massive and taking the night to readjust was the right call as any immediate action would've been using their lies to make everything worse.

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The King Wang.
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Corrik7 posted...

China is stronger than you think.

Nah, they're realistically more just a competitive 4th. Russia is still a strong 2 despite their decline and Japan, despite not having a military, is consistently ranked as one of the strongest in the world (usually 4th to 7th) and their not-Navy is second to us. In a war with China they hold a massive advantage due to better tech, an already stupidly good not Navy, and a moderately strong not air force. Gotta remember that despite the land mass China is remarkably easy for them to hurt since everyone's on the coast facing them, meaning even Russia would have a harder time fighting them. When you add in the fact that they spend just 50 billion currently... They're basically the sleeping giant, Russia is the big dog, and China is the paper tiger.

Should they maintain their hold on Africa though, that can change extremely fast. They're already trying to establish routes across the continent and if they can set up on the Atlantic side over the next few decades then they're no question taking that #2 for covering the world.

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The King Wang.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Honestly you're 100% right and I respect that argument a lot. I think we need to prepare for China in 50 years by building up a preposterously strong military, but totally valid to think that they'll stagnate soon.

China's not a concern militarily, Russia is still stronger and honestly if they fought Japan again I think they'd get schooled once more. They have a large standing army but that's it.

Economically they're a monster and regionally they've conquered a significant chunk of Africa, with all its land and resources, with zero actual pushback. That's the area we should have focus on if we care about China. Ideally Europe would but due to politics they're much more restrained.


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The King Wang.
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KamikazePotato posted...

I skimmed most of the recent topics but didn't Wang spend a good two days straight arguing that Iran wouldn't dare respond to the assassination in an overt way and anything they were saying was just bluffing

Huh? I said that they'd respond but it would be in more covert ways. It wouldn't be declaring war, it'd be more in terrorist actions. That said it'd be dumb of them to because doing so just asks us to clap back and we'll do it harder.

Catching up to the topic now so don't know if that got covered. But yeah, my position was Iran would retaliate but without a war declaration, instead doubling down on terrorism with an uptick of attacks that way.

Edit: checked the old topic. First thing i said on it:

yeah, iran will retailate but that'll be in the form of messing around in the middle east some more, in ways that we don't have much control or knowledge of.

mind you, there's a valid question to "aren't they doing that anyway?" and there's a valid statement that without this commander it cripples them, tactically. on both fronts this ends up being quite non consequential. but there's also no way of knowing exactly how this escalates beyond that. will they declare war, of course not. why declare war when you can use your military without that or, better yet, use "non military forces" instead?

Which all is holding true, minus the terrorist uptick, for now.

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The King Wang.
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If Platinum did the story of the monkey king I'd play it.

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The King Wang.
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...no they didn't. The way trump won is exactly the same way Bernie is trying to win. There was no landslide.

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The King Wang.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something. The guy who would've won the nomination if not for Trump isn't a strong nominee?

Like i personally split nominee and candidate. Former is your party, latter is the election. Since... Well, former is the party selection, aka, nominating. The latter you're actually running, aka, a candidate.

Basically do not underestimate Cruz. That seems incredibly foolish to do, he ain't a Rand Paul.

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The King Wang.
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Cruz/Hillary I don't know. But do think she'd probably win PA outright. Still probably lose Ohio and Florida though.

But I said the nomination. He would've won that without Trump, 100%.


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The King Wang.
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Ted Cruz is a remarkably strong candidate, not sure where you're getting the idea otherwise. Realize that if Trump didn't win the nom he would've, I fully stand by the position that we're lucky Trump did. Now i don't think he'll run but he's not at all a bad choice, voting wise.

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The King Wang.
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red sox 777 posted...

If she gets to the general and anyway remembers, it will.

Absolutely not. Warren is currently regaining her status as the establishment Chosen One after Pete proved that a slice of bread has a more diverse pallette than his voterbase. He's got no ability to pull from Bernie and Biden is remarkably resilient, so the football is back to her with Castro being an attempt to get a bit back.

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The King Wang.
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Trump's family isn't running in 2024, that strikes me as a fantasy of the left that everyone else us totally okay with laughing about. He ain't a Bush.

Yang doesn't fit with republicans either. Though he's got the 2nd highest crossover appeal it's largely due to his speaking to people instead of at them instead of policy.

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The King Wang.
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Also no Iran isn't going to war with us. They'd never declare it and that's not their way of operating, they MUCH prefer covert actions and have been doing that for decades. There may well be an escalation on that, though if that gets tied back we'll probably kill some more of their military leaders as the only place their budget has gone to thanks to sanctions collapses. And if we don't, Israel will.

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The King Wang.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Looks like they changed it already but why would this be a parody? By most accounts he legit was a revered military leader. Do you find that hard to believe of a terrorist?

And Baghdadi was also by most accounts an austere religious scholar.

The point is how WaPo loves framing the worst terrorists out there as positive figures.

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The King Wang.
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Man. I thought this was a parody account at first, figuring they wouldn't do this again in as many months.

Bet he was an austere religious scholar too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1212907536833220608

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The King Wang.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

It's one poll, I wouldn't be too concerned. Bloomberg would be interesting at a debate though. The guy is probably the most cunning person in the race.

On business maybe.
On politics hell no.


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The King Wang.
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He was both a high level military official and a major terrorist who was killing Americans. Trump should be in the clear due to the latter, though the former is all anyone cares for the aftermath. But treating him as one or the other is wrong, it's both.

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The King Wang.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

We can destroy the military forces of every nation on earth combined. Why lift weights if we ain't gonna flex?

But we've been flexing for 18 years by being at war with an entire region of the world. Like at this point it's not Afghanistan or Iraq, it's those two, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lybia, Iran, even fucking Jordan. Israel is our ally and the only reason we don't fuck with Turkey is because it's too big a pain in the ass. It's the war against the Middle East.

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The King Wang.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Like how much do you want to bet that Trump's primary motivation here wasn't getting attention off of his impeachment? Do you honestly think his primary concern is the safety of Americans in harm's way?

Impeachment might bother him personally but it proved a GREAT cover for expanding powers of the executive and passing over $2 trillion, all approved by the House.

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The King Wang.
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Due to the time frame and the fact that this would've been voted a clear yes, I'm okay with this being without approval, despite the fact that it should've been.

And Tony, Trump isn't Obama. While war and Obama go over well, it's a really bad mix with Trump supporters as they've been consistently anti-war. It's one of the major overlaps he shares with Bernie. This attack will go over fine due to the recent actions by Iran and the specific target. Hell, it'll go over well with anybody on the left who had a major problem with pulling out of Syria since we probably fucked Iran on that too.


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The King Wang.
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It's probably weighing military heavily.
Though then you look at Trump and he should be more left there so dunno what else is getting a ton more than it should.

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The King Wang.
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Uhh i think there's more problems with that chart than Tulsi's place. That one doesn't seem too off.

That mass of authoritarian right is. And Williamson, the candidate who explicitly wanted reparations, being right wing libertarian is all kinds of funny.

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The King Wang.
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Political compass this time says... Left lib.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-2.5&soc=-4.62

Lower than other versions of the same test but not too off the norm.

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The King Wang.
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Yeah, Bloomberg is a Biden replacement.
Fortunately Obama's behind the door praise of Warren exists and makes for a middle ground. One that'd lose yes but better than Bloomberg getting any traction at all.

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The King Wang.
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TheRock1525 posted...

I'm more along the lines of "If Trump gets reelected and he replaces RBG and another retiring judge then the progressive movement is lost in the rest of my lifetime."

I'd vote for Michael fucking Bloomberg to prevent that from happening.

Bloomberg over Trump isn't left or right, it's maddening.

Like I may not like certain candidates but I'll accept them. Bloomberg I'd actively get involved to vote against. He actually does some of the crazier stuff people claim to be afraid of what Trump would do. Biggest example being the way some people go "Trump will rewrite the rules to get a third term/stay in power even if voted out!"

Yeah, Bloomberg literally did that.
He handpicked people on a council to change the rules so he could run a third time. Fuck that guy. The soda ban he's infamous is something I can understand, even if that was massive overreach and clear to favor some industries, hurt most, and especially hurt people in the middle and lower income. Same for stop and frisk, i get the concept and where the logic failed. Most of his anti-congestion ideas were pretty solid, for non car owners anyway. Third term though? Wholesale bullshit with an election he bought and the competition utterly sucked. Him over anyone is a damn sanity check.

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The King Wang.
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