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Ooh. Also: I'm calling it now. There's something fishy about Kaito.

First partway through Trial 2's investigation he mentioned how he used to be apart of Tennis Club, yet never mentioned it earlier despite the Ultimate Tennis Pro being there, and now as everyone exited the trial, Gonta made a comment about the stars looking different; Kaito is the Ultimate Astronaut, why the fuck would he not comment on that?

Something's off here, im calling it now.

Geez; that ended up being I think one of the more brutal murders in the series yet, especially considering how convoluted and exactly planned it was.

Another character I really liked gone; they're really targeting the super interesting charactes this go around, huh?

Bruh fuck Mind Mine.

My stoned stupid ass thought I had to clear the entire panel, not just unveil the specific item.

Was starting to get real frustrated, till try 4 I rechecked the controls and utilized the "select object" button.

Also Psyche Taxi or whatever it was called was real weird too, I think I preferred the brainwave surfing thing in 2 tbh.

Bruh.

I could just feel it in the air that Ryoma wasn't gonna last much longer, but damn, that really sucks. I was really curious to see his arc play out.

Alright, imma say it now before something tragic possibly happens.

I think Ryoma is my favorite character so far. He's such a fucking downer, but in aweirdly awesome way.

I think it also helps that he's voiced by the same guy that voiced Gundham.

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Officially finished Chapter 1.

That was fucking great. I kinda expected it to be Kaeda for most of the chapter tbh, but that doesn't take wway from how well executed that twist was. It was pretty obvious like, a quarter of the way through that it was gonna be her or Suichi; but the fake-out protagonist angle was just so fucking good. Fucking love it.

Kimberly posted...

It felt longer to me personally but I also wasn't measuring my playtime hours. I also felt really burnt out by the time I got half-way through the game, but that may just be my hangup.

Hmmm; that's kinda how I felt halfway through 2; it wasn't till Chapter 4 that things felt like they were picking back up and felt exciting again.

I guess we'll see how I feel later on; so far I feel like it's had one of the stronger intros, but there's plenty of game left.

Out of curiosity: is V3 longer than the other games? Or is it just this first chapter? Or am I just tripping that it feels longer (in a good way ) ?

Oh man; I am loving this so far.

I feel like they're taking a lot more time with this first chapter than in the past games, and it's really paying off. Rontaro was a surprising but very interesting first victim. Got to the Intermission of the class trial (I've got work early in the morning, unfortunately.) And if this turns out the way it seems to be leaning towards, this will be the ballsiest intro case yet.

Loving the characters and their group dynamic so far as well.

Oh man, I think I'm gonna love Gonta. He's so sweet.

Really interesting cast already, curious to see how everyone's development goes.

This new "Slapping objects in rooms" mechanic is really weird, but also strangely addicting.

Jesus christ, wasn't expecting an immediate chase sequence with giant mechs.

Fuck it, 2 prepped me for the weirdness, let's dive right in.

kirbymuncher posted...

now that you've finished the second game I can share my thoughts on chiaki the whole "traitor" thing is that all the other characters are part of the despair side, and she's the only one who isn't and is trying to fix them. so she's not really what the player might see as a traitor but her entire point is to secretly oppose the other characters and help toward getting them to become something else

That makes a lot more sense tbh. Cause in the moment it feels like a really out of nowehre label to put on her, but with the full context of the game, that tracks.

Alright friends. Just booted up V3. Let's do this shit.

Just listened to all of Antipop by Primus.

I think it's the only Primus album I like tbh, but it's pretty fucking great.

Smiffwilm posted...

Since you said you won't be watching the anime, and how highly you view Gundam and Neko, here's a non-story plot spoiler 2-minute scene you should see:

https://youtu.be/_eH_hljbEDQ

lmao, that's fantastic.

Oh shit, almost forgot to talk about Nagito and Chiyaki.

Nagito might be one of my all time favorite secondary antagonists. Dude ended up being so fucking batshit, but also so calculated and conniving in his own fucked up way. His plot to kill everyone except for the traitor after realzing that EVERYONE ELSE was a Remnant of Despair? The fact that his plan WORKED, and the only reason it didn't is cause the "traitor" herself, Chiyaki, turned herself in once she realized what Nagito had done? The fact that Nagito's plan was so calculated that that was really the only way for his plan to fail?

Chapter 5 as a whole was absolutely insane, in the best way. I'm having trouble deciding if I prefer chapter 4 or 5, cause both involved all 4 of my favorite characters at their aboslute best, respectively.

Alright, here's my rankings for the students in this game. As I said before, 2 had some of my absolute favorites of the series so far, but also had some of my most hated characters.

• 1 Gundham Tanaka
• 2 Chiaki Nanami
• 3 Nekomaru Nidai
• 4 Nagito Komaeda
• 5 Hajime Hinata / Izuru Kamukura
• 6 Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
• 7 Sonia Nevermind
• 8 Ibuki Mioda
• 9 Akane Owari
• 10 Byakuya Togami Ultimate Imposter
• 11 Mahiru Koizumi
• 12 Peko Pekoyama
• 13 Hiyoko Saionji
• 14 Mikan Tsumiki
• 15 Teruteru Hanamura
• 16 Kazuichi Soda

From 10 down to 16, I'm honestly pretty "meh" or outright hate everyone in that grouping (Mikan, Soda, and TeruTeru were especially grating.) For clarification, I think Teruteru was probably overall worse than Soda in terms of just how creepy and gross he was, but Soda wins out on least favorite because I had to deal with his creepy, whiny ass the entire. fucking. game. At least I didn't have to deal with Teruteru anymore after Chapter 1.

The top 9 tho were all fantastic, especially the top 6. Hajime and Fuyuhiko both grew on me immensely. First half of the game I found them very annoying, but by the end, they got so much growth and there were so many cool twists with them, they earned all of their character development.

And god damn, don't get me started on Gundham and Nekomaru. Just two weird as fuck bros who were fucking badass, and probably cared about their classmates more than anyone else with only a couple possible exceptions.

Gundham's final speech before he died is the only moment in either game where I genuinely teared up.

I think after I beat all 3 main games, I'll do a combined ranking of all the students in all the games, but as of right now, I think Gundham is my favorite character in either of the games I've played so far. His Four Dark Devas of Destruction must have used their powers of darkness to brainwash me, cause I fucking love that absolute weirdo.

Azardea posted...

Glad you liked it in the end, I got a bit worried for a second.

Out of context, some of the individual moments, especially early on, just felt really out of place compared to the first game. But once the context was there, it all added up a lot more.

I think the game does definitely take longer to get into than the first game; In the first game, I was hooked by chapter 2. In the second game, it wasn't till Chapter 4 that it really got its hooks into me, but once I was in, I was in.

Overall, I'd say that I think the second half of Danganonronpa 2 might be stronger than 1 in its entirity, but the first game is better as a whole than the second game is as a whole, if that makes sense.

2 I think has more characters I would call my favorites than the first game did, but it also has more characters I hated in this one as well. I think it's fair to say that 2 manages to have much higher highs than the first game, but also much lower lows.

The science adds up.

And... We're done. I have officially beaten Danganronpa 2.

Holy shit everything went batshit by the end. But honestly...

I loved it.

There were several moments throughout the game where it came dangerously close to losing me, but by the end, they managed to tie everything back together in a way that made it all just... work. The "It was all a video game all along!" trope could have easily made things feel dumb and silly, but they presented it in a way that felt earned, and even made a lot of the silly stuff in the early parts of the game a lot more understandable in retrospect.

I think I might still enjoy the first one more overall, but I can still enthusiastically say that I loved 2. It had some insane twists and turns, but somehow managed to make them all tie together and work. Good shit.

I also like how they brought Junko back in a way that, for the in-game logic at least, made a lot of sense, and didn't feel too forced.

Just like last time, I'll do a ranking of the characters in 2.

But first, Imma buy V3 and get that installing. Let's keep plowing through this series, friends.

Hmmm... I think I might just jump into V3. I'm reading a lot of people online say to skip UDG, and it seems like the anime is pretty meh too. I might read some summaries on the two, but I think next up on the agenda will just be skipping to V3.

Alright, the time has come for (assumedly) the last class trial of the game. Let's do this shit.

Since I'm reaching the end, I guess now is the time to discuss the next step.

Am I good to just buy v3 and jump straight into it? Or am I gonna be super lost without doing some of the other side material?

Man, chapter 6 sure does get real fucking weird and trippy.

Don't think I'll know how I feel about this direction until I finish the game and know everything.

The_Popo posted...

I always took it that Sakura was a traitor simply because she had a deal with Monokuma at one point, even if she never followed through. She was going behind the backs of her classmates, so that gave her the label (Id agree that she wasnt a traitor though, as she ever took any actions against them).

I guess that's a reasonable take. I think part of it too is I love Sakura, she's probably my fav from thie first game, so the whole traitor thing and subsequent hate from the in-game characters felt really weird when she didn't actually DO anything.

Thank ya'll so much for keeping this bumped. Was at DragonCon this weekend, tons of fun, but now I'm super exhausted lol.

Gonna try to hit it up tonight, but if I don't I'm also off tomorrow so should for sure get some good play time in then.

Gonna be super busy the next few days, so probably wont be able to play much till like, Monday. If peeps are interested in keeping this bumped for me, I'll def return Monday to give my thoughts on everything, hopefully I'll be able to beat it Monday or Tuesday.

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Good, he should be proud, it's the best Star Wars movie since Empire Strikes Back.

My girlfriend's 9 years older than me; it's good stuff.

I've also always had a bit of thing for older women.

On further thought, if the story is in fact being told from a third party, we also have to question the fact that the Devil himself admitted defeat.

This could very easilly just be one of Johnny's buddies sharing anti-devil propaganda.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

feels like a rabbit hole i would never dare to dive into.

I regretted it immediatly. Sometimes you just get a sick curiosity.

These videos are painfully bad.

Like, yeah, so is the music. But I accidentally stumbled down a country music video rabbit hole and they're just unexcusaebly bad sometimes.

Like look at this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmzmHffY6l4

Or here, the "sequel" to The Devil Went Down To Georgia, you can literally see that Cash is reading his lyrics/lines from the book he's reading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0XUTD7QYcs

Bruh.

Most blow-up dolls should be reusable right? You don't have to keep buying new ones each time.

MICHALECOLE posted...

The devil admitted defeat, it sounds like it wasnt even a contest

Why would the devil give up so easily though? Seems uncharacteristic.

I don't know that I trust this third-party narrator's account of the event.

Didn't even ask to go another round? Maybe Johnny was a one trick pony, there's no way the Devil was able to grasp the entirity oh Johnny's fiddle playing off that one quick set.

Something's not adding up here.

masterpug53 posted...

So you're saying that this is not, in fact, the greatest song in the world? This is just a tribute?!

Also a very good song.

AlCalavicci posted...

The devil didn't even sing during his part

Exactly; Johnny was using vocals to cover up his mediocre fiddle playing. The Devil got scammed out of his golden fiddle.

Timmyjinkle posted...

No, are you listening to the lyrics? "and it sounded something like this", this is a third person playing the song. We don't know Johnny's nor The Devil's renditions because it's a 3rd party playing both of them.

Oh shit; what a twist. There's no way for us to ever know then.

I still think the Devil got cheated here tho.

Dude had a better solo; The song acts like it was an obvious win for Johnny too, but the Devil jammed, while Johnny's bit sounds much more generic and just kinda whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7BZf7D5Bw

Hell, the difference is even grander in the Primus cover, The Devil kicks Johnny's ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w

BakonBitz posted...

Passed Chapter 5 I'm guessing?

lol yep.

Chapter 5 was solid. Sad to see Chiyaki go, she was one of my favs, but I also figured out she was the traitor a good while back so that wasn't much of a shock.

I will say, and I missed it in the first game too with Sakura; what exactly did either of them actually DO as the Traitor? Like, they keep using "Traitor" as a buzz word/scare tactic for the group, but what did either of them actually do to sabotage anyone? Like, I guess Chiyaki was feeding Monomi information or something, but Monomi already seemed more than able to keep tabs on everyone on her own, why did she even need a "traitor" in the first place? Same with Sakura, I know she was SUPPOSED to make the first kill of the game, but she didn't. Other than that, what else did she do that was actually traitorous?

I will admit, I've been stoned for like, 80% of the time I've been playing this series, but even still, I feel like I'm missing something important, cause it doesn't seem like the traitors have really actually DONE anything.

Also shout out to Nagito for his batshit fucking crazy plan that... worked? Didn't work? Who the fuck knows, but it kicked shit into gear either way, well done you crazy bastard.

Stopped last night right at the title card for chapter zero, will probably try to play at least a bit more today.

I dated a girl for a while, probably about 6 months into the relationship brought up how she hunted a bear once, had a picture and everything. She waited a while to ever bring it up so I think she knew that it was problematic, but still seemed pretty proud of it when she did talk about it.

We ended up dating for about year after, ultimately broke up for unrelated reasons, but that always rubbed me the wrong way. Hunting for meat is one thing, but I doubt you're out here eating bear.

Don't remember if she at least used its fur or something, but if not then man, still kinda rubs me wrong.

Oh geez, we're going full-blown meta now aren't we?

Holy shit.

Nagito got fucking got. Like. God damn, that's brutal. What a great character. And what a wild way to go.

I think I gotta stop here for tonight cause I have work in the morning, but woo boy. This Class Trial is gonna be gnarly, I can already feel it.

I'm sorry, but I just can't fucking stand him. He's just so whiny. And always creeping on Sonia.

He's very near the bottom of my character rankings for this game as of right now.

DeadBankerDream posted...

The first case in 2 is genuinely great but it doesn't get a lot of love. I get why. Neither the victim or culprit are very likeable characters.

The mechanics of the first trial are great, but yeah TeruTeru was just too atrocious for me to really give a shit

also Holy shit I fucking hate Soda. He's just so fucking obnoxious, and has somehow managed to get worse and worse the further we go. Ugh.

Noumas posted...

100 posts in I don't want spoilers but I recently heard about this game and then saw this topic, how is the game? Is it good?

I like 999, ghost trick, and of course the ace attorney series.

What system to play it on if its good I have a ps4 and switch and vita

I'm loving it personally, enough that I'm already on-to the second game.

It's a good blend of various genres, and the story and characters are the main draw I'd say.

I'D say at least give it a go; try to get through the first couple of chapters at least before you decide one way or the other, it's a slow burn at times, but so far it continuously pays off.

I'm playing it on my PS5, so the PS4 version should be comparable; ive had no issues with it, I think that'd be solid. I did hear it's also on PC, so I guess just whatever fits your gaming preferences more.

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Bruh

How you gonna make my boy Gundam the killer? But even still, they made him so weirdly sympathetic and badass. I'd say he's by far my favorite character who killed someone else, and is even still up there for favorite character overall.

Case 4 was fantastic but also brutal. 2 of my favs died, and straight up Gundam's speech right before his execution made me start to tear up a little weirdly. What a bizarre but great character

Will say, after that I have much higher hopes for the rest of the game. That case was great all around.

This topic sucks.

Honestly case 2 and 3 kinda sucked IMO. 3 in particular wasjust super fucking dumb with the "despair disease thing", and also made it super predictable who was gonna be the killer, the foreshadowing was way too blatant.

4 has been fucking great so far though, by far my favorite in this game so far.

Bout to start the Class Trial for it now; obviously everything could chance right here, but if it keeps it up, CASE 4 really turned this game around for me

Man, I can see why people hate on Hiro, but his ability to survive all the way to the end through pure stupidity is kind of amazing and endearing to me