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why do conservatives get lower grades?

Checkmate, liberals
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https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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asking for a friend
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tommybel89 posted...

The only thing I would worry about is the fact that a conservative cannot do what Wolf did against a democrat woman. Not a chance in hell. It's open season on Sanders and Anne Coulter. But if anyone tried this on a democrat woman pundit or a celebrity like Beyonce?
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The party of equality does not want equality in the distribution of joke targets.

Why do you think Beyonce and Ann Coulter are equal targets? They aren't equal people.
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KILBOTz posted...

But it wouldn't work. Incels don't want to have sex with someone deemed a 1/10 by society. If they were willing to do so, 95% of them wouldn't be virgins. They think they deserve someone society identifies as a 8/10+

Also, no woman is gonna take a step down on the ladder to fuck one of these dweebs. This is a recipe for average women to become incredible prudes.
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Say what you will about Peterson, I think it's obvious he deserves credit for inspiring Kanye to produce this incredible work of creative genius
https://twitter.com/Chazer11/status/990026903623946240
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Well?
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Didn't the poor get poorer under Margaret Thatcher?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

How did he lose popularity? People actually listened to him and pointed out what he said.

His followers didn't become less nationalist, though. He lost his financial backing because people found his comments about molestation distasteful. No one's political views were changed by that.

Your confidence in the ability of debate to produce rational clarity is really staggering given that two years ago Donald Trump appeared in several highly-televised debates and then become president.
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I had to look up who "Hotep Jesus" is, and in doing so I came across this
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-media-promote-an-anti-semitic-extremist-to-mock-starbucks-controversy/

Later that year, after the white supremacist Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last year that resulted in the violent murder of Heather Heyer, Sharpe wrote in an update to that post that he believed the alt-right was now under the control of the deep-state or whomever is also controlling Black Lives Matter. The post claims that Hotep Nation does not and has never had an official alliance with Alt-Right, yet also states that it did not (still does not) have a problem with White Nationalists.

Last year, Sharpe appeared on Red Ice TV, which is the video offshoot of a white nationalist radio station. On air, he told host Henrik Palmgren that he blamed Jews for promulgating the idea of white supremacy, which he believes is a myth.

The only thing that makes white supremacy a thought in peoples minds is the media, and the media is controlled by who? The only thing that makes white supremacy a thing is music, and its controlled by who? The movies, Hollywood, who controls that? Black people dont control that. White people dont control that. Our banking system, when we talk about people got sold out, banks got bailed out, well who controls these banks?

He added, The minute you say, gay, trans, Jew, its off limits. So I already know that my country, United States of America, is going to become an Islamic, Jewish, LGBT dominant state. So Im out of here. Im going back to Africa.

After the white supremacist Unite the Right, Sharpe wrote about the rally:

The African American community is in a frenzy. Theyre crying about racism, slavery and everything else they can pull out of their toolbox of victimhood.

But what they do not realize is that this is not a demonstration against blacks. This is a dispute between right and left Liberal versus Conservative. Maybe even White vs Jew.

Blacks are so far removed from reality and misled by fake news, they dont see this. The demonstration was called Unite the Right, not Unite the White. Lol

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The truth is, Alt-right is the victim here. These people chose to exercise their freedom to assemble and they were viciously attacked by ANTIFA goons. This group ANTIFA is probably being funded by the same people that were funding Black Lives Matter.

Why would an outside entity fund ANTIFA and BLM? To keep the race war going. To keep the United States people divided by race instead of class.

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On November 13, Sharpe wrote a blog post titled, Can my children be friends with black people? In the article, he wrote:

What will my child learn from another African American child? Theyll probably learn something destructive which was taught by liberal media.

My child will quickly become a dream liberal case study and experiment when surrounded by African Americans. Theyll learn to hate Donald Trump without any evidence to support this feeling.

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This is very strange to me. Weren't the Confederates Democrats? Why are all these Republicans lining up to honor them, while Democrats seek to remove their statues?

Really makes you think
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The Admiral posted...

Racism would improve if people stopped obsessing it about and looking for reasons to think any slight or negative experience was due to skin color.

Like that time that cop got shot in Iowa
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The Admiral posted...

Separate but equal.

It's not your fault that TC's title was misleading, but you ought to get in the habit of reading stories before reacting to them.
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This is a good critique
https://areomagazine.com/2018/04/15/the-necessity-of-postmodernism-in-the-post-truth-age/

When deployed, postmodern insights will assail an accepted social norm, institution, convention or tradition and push the envelope, crow-barring certainty from precedent. It will explore the strategic deployment of language, its use of discourse and the structures of articulated ideas in textual or symbolic form. Social institutions are sustained by the words people use, whether in the media, in politics, or in academia. Language is not merely descriptive of social reality, it can shape it too. People can be manipulated to think in particular ways through the use of language. Youd think this postmodern insight would win it some friends. It seems not. But Foucault was right about this: language is for cutting. Postmodernism will not always prevail. Social facts are, as Peterson points out, often still useful and will remain resilient. There has to be something, some system in which we live. And thinkers like Foucault would agree. There is, as Foucault well knew, no escape from power. However, that is not a defeat for postmodernism; it is a victory for those institutions and norms that have built up over time and proved both resilient and useful for now. But their resilience should not be assumed automatically or accepted uncritically. Peterson likes certainty and hierarchy. And thats fine when youre in a privileged place in society. However, for others change cannot come soon enough. Claims of universality and timeless human essences should be viewed with suspicion because they entrench the status quo. Over time, or perhaps with the help of some postmodern critical engagement, some previously accepted conventions and traditions no longer hold the persuasive power that they once did. An illustrative example of this is the dramatic sea change in attitudes towards same sex marriage across the west.
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The ultimate reason for the rapid depletion of trust in political institutions in the west is not the obscure scholarship of leftish continental scholars like Foucault, and Derrida. It is the failure of those institutions and our political culture generally to deliver for ordinary people over a protracted period of time. It is also the result of fragmenting trust in an academy that is now beholden to corporate interests, whether in how universities are run or indeed how scientific research is published and disseminated. At a time when there is not only wealth inequality and parallel systems of justice, but also a visibly parallel and unequal system, then is it any wonder that people turned to the charlatan outsider that is Trump? Is it any wonder that the people voted against their own interests in the UK and left the one institution that is holding the line on the best quality of life for ordinary people in any world region by voting for Brexit? Is it any wonder that people have had enough of experts? It is the classic case of the boy who cried wolf too many times.

The road to this near dystopia of public apathy and cynicism is not littered with the specialized scholarship and writing of late twentieth century continental thinkers. It is littered with the debris of cynical political manipulation and deception, obscene concentrations of wealth, tax evasion by the wealthy, fictional WMDs, unpunished bankers, intrusive tech companies and a docile or even complicit media class and the steady stagnation of life quality for increasing numbers of citizens....The polarization of western society into Alt Right and Antifa left is a consequence of these facets of our age, not the ruminations of Foucault, Derrida et al. To go down the Jordan Peterson route of ill-informed confirmation bias with regard to the caricatured bogeyman of postmodernism is to perpetuate the distraction that continues to serve the interests of what C Wright Mills called the power elite. Postmodernism is the problem? Not so fast. A little more nuance, Professor.

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Hinakuluiau posted...

I don't like his use of 'postmodern' and 'neo/cultural Marxism' since they frequently fail to match well with the actual ideas in those schools,

You can basically insert "SJW" when he says that stuff. That's what he means; he just has to use academic terminology to give it the appearance of rationality.
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Sonic Adventure 2 (Battle)
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Peterson gets hyped because he gives a long-awaited intellectual sheen to the reactionary views already held by so much of his audience. Finally, they have someone who will gussy up in fancy language their resentment towards trans people and SJWs (postmodern neo-marxists, in Peterson's parlance).
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They went so far as to tally up how much he visited various twitter accounts over the course of a month.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da7CTEFVQAAaVSD.jpg
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ShotOJameson posted...

it breeds the most awful people with zero accountability.

*looks at the president*

hmm, I agree
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The fascists actually undertook huge amounts of privatization
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https://eos.org/articles/reversing-earths-spin-moves-deserts-reshapes-ocean-currents
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Wow, it seems like a failure of journalistic ethics that Fox allowed Hannity to offer coverage of news pertaining to Michael Cohen without disclosing that he is a client of Cohen. I am sure that they will rectify this error immediately and issue a statement.
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http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/quebec-mosque-shooter-alexandre-bissonnette-trawled-trumps-twitter-feed
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The Admiral posted...

It's a sad reality in this country when this kind of thing happens every week in Baltimore and doesn't even make the national news, but happens once in some wealthy, white FL school district and it's suddenly an epidemic.

You're very close to an epiphany here
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FursonaNonGrata posted...

Admiral, how are you finding all of these highly specific articles? Do you use your own scripts or are you reposting content from other sites?

You've asked this in like 4 topics now. He's not going to answer. What are you trying to get at, anyway?

I think the point being made is that Admiral seeks out things to get mad at, a trait he criticizes in liberals.
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I think the term you're looking for is spectrum
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I'm not reading all 250 posts here, has anybody made the correct point that whiteness is a construct that should be dismantled, given the way it fosters and perpetuates the socioeconomic inequalities that are rampant in society?

I'll hang up and listen
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https://twitter.com/JBPorCleric
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

Having people do nothing but sit on a couch all day yet collecting a check does nothing to help them for the long term. If anything it encourages them to stay on welfare.

Do you realize that we already have time limits on how long people can receive benefits? It's two years at any one time, or five years over the course of your life. Many states are already more restrictive.
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Yeah that is not what democratization means there
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The "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd seems to have an awful lot of feelings whenever facts about racial socioeconomic gaps in the U.S. are pointed out to them.
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https://www.vox.com/2018/4/9/17210248/sam-harris-ezra-klein-charles-murray-transcript-podcast
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

maybe if euro soccer fans didn't have a history of throwing bananas they wouldn't think it was a bananer in the first place

Or, you know, if they did their jobs properly instead of racing to publish race-baiting clickbait for views.

Man, who would do such a thing as racing to post racebait?
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http://www.newsweek.com/many-americans-have-more-common-white-nationalists-they-think-poll-finds-666228

Very few Americans will say outright that they support neo-Nazism, white nationalism or the so-called alt right. But that doesnt mean they dont express support for some of the same racially-charged ideas and attitudes that such extremists espouse. A new poll conducted by Reuters and Ipsos with the University of Virginia Center for Politics in the aftermath of the Charlottesville rallies found what it called troubling racial attitudes.

The poll was conducted from August 21 to September 5, in the weeks following a Unite the Right rally, white supremacist marches and counter-protests on the University of Virginia campus and in downtown Charlottesville. Clashes broke out, and the scene took an even more violent turn when a car slammed into counter-protesters, killing Heather Heyer and injuring at least 19 others. Most questions in the poll were asked of a large group of 5,360 respondents.

Only six percent of respondents said they strongly or somewhat supported the alt-right, while eight percent said the same of white nationalism and just four percent of neo-Nazism. In the case of the alt-right and white nationalism, a staggering one-fifth said they neither support nor oppose the groups. As President Donald Trump found out when he failed to unequivocally condemn the same groups, middling responses can be interpreted as support.

Lets remember, there are nearly 250 million adults in the United States, so even small percentages likely represent the beliefs of many millions of Americans, Larry J. Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center of Politics, is quoted as saying.

About 70 percent of respondents strongly agreed that people of different races should be free to live wherever they choose and that all races are equal, and 89 percent agreed that all races should be treated equally. At the same time, 31 percent of respondents said they strongly or somewhat agreed that the country needs to protect and preserve its White European heritage, while 34 percent strongly or somewhat disagreed and 29 percent said they neither agreed nor disagreed. Nearly a third of respondents failed to express support of interracial marriagewith 16 percent agreeing outright that marriage should only be allowed between two people of the same race, 14 percent neither agreeing nor disagreeing and four percent saying they didnt know.

The poll also revealed disparities in which groups Americans believe are under attack. More than a third39 percentof respondents strongly or somewhat agreed with the statement that white people are currently under attack in this country. There were significant differences in responses depending on race and political affiliation29 percent of white respondents disagreed with the statement compared to 54 percent of non-white respondents, while 21 percent of Democrats agreed compared to 63 percent of Republicans. Conversely, 55 percent of respondents strongly or somewhat agreed with the statement that racial minorities are currently under attack in this country, with just 13 percent of racial minorities disagreeing and 27 percent of white respondents disagreeing.

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If being forced to abide by rules set 230 years ago by people who excluded the vast majority of their contemporary population from representation and power isn't tyranny, what is?

If being told that democratic (small-d) efforts to change the laws by which society is governed will incur a violent response from an armed sect of the population isn't tyranny, what is?
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The desk of Steve King, R-Iowa

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People who think that universal healthcare will lead to slavery for doctors also believe teachers shouldn't be able to strike or bargain for higher wages.
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The Admiral posted...

I know in NYC it's highly concentrated in certain groups

What do you think that suggests?

Do you have a point that you're oh-so-subtly hinting at, or are you just gonna leave that hanging to rile people up and then not follow through with an endpoint?
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...

is it that pedo plane

If by "that pedo plane," you mean Jeffrey Epstein's "Lolita Express," then you are correct!

2002:

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

He's pals with a passel of Nobel Prizewinning scientists, CEOs like Leslie Wexner of the Limited, socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, even Donald Trump. But it wasn't until he flew Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker to Africa on his private Boeing 727 that the world began to wonder who he is.
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Epstein likes to tell people that he's a loner, a man who's never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

2016

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offenders infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the Lolita Express -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

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Medz1286 posted...

Trumps personal plane?

This also might be correct, but it's not what I had in mind
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CableZL posted...

The WWF/WWE airplane?

I can't think of a reason why Bill Clinton would have been on that
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NeonOctopus posted...

Da pussy plane?

Getting warmer!
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Do you guys give up?
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Error1355 posted...

Korean Air Flight 85

No.

Please stop looking up weird commercial aviation incidents
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The Admiral posted...

Probably the old Concorde.

Actually, that might be right (Trump definitely rode it; I can't find anything concrete about Clinton), but it's not the answer I'm looking for

50Blessings posted...

Soul Plane

no.
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I'll give you guys a hint: it didn't crash or disappear
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