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I agree with what you're saying, but saying she should leave the party misses the point. The Democrats are a big tent party that has little defining qualities other than being opposed to the Republicans. Bernie and AOC are smart politicians that use this to their benefit. Kicking them out would result in the party becoming that mass of shadowy centrists you're referring to.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

There is an article on cnn saying AOC should leave the democratic party if she is bothered by Biden so much. In the article it says the democratic party is why AOC has power. Did no one give this person the memo she beat the 4th ranking Democrat in the house to get here.

People are stupid mad she said that in another country, she and Biden wouldn't be in the same party. But that's just the objective truth. The two party system brings out the dumbest takes.

also that bernie thing is great, you love to see it

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Is Home not going to have transfer capability from Bank by the time the DLC is out or are people really just committed to filling out the Pokedex again manually in the new games?

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Kinglicious posted...

That all still sounds like bullshit.
There were multiple amendments lined up to limit Trump's ability to use force in Iran. All were removed. Dems approved of this. No doubt Republicans too, it's what both want.

Are you talking about the defence budget? Doesnt seem like bullshit. The House actually approved those amendments back in July. That means the Senate stripped them out, then later most Dems caved instead of risking a government shutdown. Then this disaster happens. Progressives get to say "I told you so" and war hawks are happy but everyone else including guys like Lee here are upset they got outplayed by an incompetent administration and on damage control. Checks out to me.

Bipartisan compromise at work!

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To clarify this is just from leaving location and search history enabled and not some separate setting, right?

Mine goes back to 2013, which is when I first got a smartphone. Whoops!

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red sox 777 posted...

So here's an alternative idea. Keep the law that says hospitals have to treat people regardless of whether they can pay and extend it to all medical providers. Patients then receive a bill. If they don't pay, they can declare a new form of bankruptcy called medical bankruptcy. Unlike regular bankruptcy, this doesn't go on your credit report and you can come back for more rounds of medical bankruptcy over and over and over. The government will pay for amounts charged by medical providers and not paid but only up to the average value of those services in OECD countries excluding the US.

it sounds like you might be a stealth Warren supporter, since her area of expertise is bankrupt law and has detailed plans for both single-payer healthcare funding and bankruptcy reform

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so the earthquake/plane crash stuff is absolutely going in the QAnon canon, right

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who could have predicted that Iran would actually retaliate

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foolm0r0n posted...

100% of UBIs require replacing other forms of welfare. In other words, the $3.6 tril that is used to fund UBI could always be used to fund $3.6 tril of other welfare. Eliminating existing programs is just a shortcut to the same thing.

What you're saying is that you would never support UBI at any real point in time, because you don't think it's better than politician-defined welfare.

No, I'm saying that out of that $3.6 trillion allocation there is likely some combination of (universal, politician-defined) welfare programs and UBI funding that is optimal. Of the two, we should prioritize the welfare programs.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

(And indeed, that's why support for M4A fell so much in polls when it was specified what it actually meant: a lot of people never realized they were being asked about single payer specifically).

No, this still depends entirely on framing. You can frame single-payer positively and it'll have high support. The polls are kind of useless because people just want better healthcare and are easily swayed.

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Wanglicious posted...

problem is that as a term M4A is getting xerox'd or google'd right now. if your idea is wanting to cover everyone your options are 1) massive overhaul of the system (e.g., remove private insurance), 2) various in between plans (more Australian model in Tulsi, Pete/Warren share a similar in between), 3) expand what's currently there (Biden), or 4) targeting specific industries in the system (Yang).

This was true months ago but not so much anymore as the major candidates have moved away from doing this in order to attack single payer, and have put forth more defined plans. Harris tried co-opting it and she's gone now. You'll notice that Biden never used "M4A" for his plan, Pete has added "for all who want it" to clarify it's a different plan for a long time, and Warren only still uses it because she claims she'll implement single-payer during her term. If anything, Tulsi and Yang are now the odd ones out for trying to get away with doing this.

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Hannyabal posted...

yes, but hes wrong to suggest that its a substitution for Medicare for all, increased minimum wage, free college, etc.

it should only be implemented in addition to other progressive policies.

this is it, though I'd also add housing to this list to things that should be addressed before/alongside UBI

A good idea but Yang's priorities are out of order

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Corrik7 posted...

This isn't really a fair comparison, but this is another example of attacking history which shouldn't happen. If you think the history is not very moral, then use it as a reason to remember to be better. You don't tear down the statues and monuments of your history because you feel better than them. They are the pillars that helped your nation get to where it is today. Whether through hardship they caused or evils they triumphed over. It all forms your nation today.

The problem is not only what Jakyl said, but also consider that most of the Confederate memorials are promoting a false history of heroic rebellion. It's erasing the true history by leaving them up, and even if you leave them up and "amend" the history of them on the plaque or whatever the statue itself is still glorification.

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Corrik7 posted...

Why did you quote yourself? And, I think removing a terrorist that has killed hundreds of Americans is probably a good thing.

But do you believe Americans are more safe, in general, now that he's dead?

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

No withdrawal is happening because of a non-binding resolution by the Iraqi Parliament

It has the backing of the Prime Minister, unofficially until he signs it. At the very least it could mark a shift in the Iraqi government's cooperation.

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https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1213860357040721922?s=19

Not that I really wanted troops in Iraq but getting kicked out is not how I thought withdrawal would go down

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https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1213443457999609856?s=19

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point

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Kinglicious posted...

Man. I thought this was a parody account at first, figuring they wouldn't do this again in as many months.

Bet he was an austere religious scholar too.

https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1212907536833220608

Looks like they changed it already but why would this be a parody? By most accounts he legit was a revered military leader. Do you find that hard to believe of a terrorist?

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1213128125371928577?s=21

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god I just realized that Biden has now adopted a "well, actually" strategy after repeatedly being forced to say that his support for the War in Iraq was a mistake and it's totally going to work for him

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Can't believe I'm saying this but I think out of the top 5 dem candidates, the award for best response on this goes to...Andrew Yang

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1212920212594610176?s=19

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Good response from Biden:

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1212954848666234880?s=21

Key point: even if you support taking action against Iran, do you really trust Donald fucking Trump to carefully navigate the situation?

I mean, anyone who supports Trump is obviously going to continue to support him and people who don't want war (even some who supported the strike) just plain don't want the war so...I don't know if the remaining slice of people will be swayed by Biden saying Trump is bad at war and he could do it better.

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Corrik7 posted...

They killed a terrorist leader. You have never needed congressional approval for that.

You did before the AUMF

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Globally it makes a lot of sense actually. Sanders is indeed about there when in context of all democracies world wide. Same thing for Pete and Castro.

I picked Pete and Castro because Castro is significantly more left than most of the field, at least on social issues. And I'm not disputing that the democrats as a whole aren't center-right but the spread seems to not make any sense and is arbitrary.

And while it's right about Bernie being a social Democrat from a global perspective (though I'm pretty sure he'd join an outright socialist party if he could), I don't see how that is particularly libertarian.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

In particular, this is where they place Americans running for president, and it's completely ridiculous:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

They put Tulsi Gabbard further left than Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders further right than me!

How in the hell are Castro and Buttigieig in the exact same position and "authoritarian right"? I'm not sure if a single thing about this chart makes sense.

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From that it sounds like it comes down to how good the post-game episode is. But I don't really want to play (and buy) the whole game again just for an extra episode that could have been DLC.

At absolute face value I would prefer extra content to Golden-style retcons with a mysterious new ally.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/charlesjkenny/status/1212542200954982402?s=21

Depressing

That's awful. Can't believe out of all things they went with fucking coal.

I've been thinking recently that the biggest problem with nuclear energy as a climate solution is not only the timeframe, but also having to convince the entire international community that nuclear is the way to go within that timeframe. The US has been the leader of nuclear power and frankly has done a shit job.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nice!

Yang raised 16.5 which was a pretty nice increase from the 10M he raised in Q3, but I'm pretty sure Bernie will dominate the headlines with that haul.

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Meanwhile they seem intent on releasing no new qualifying polls between debates and I'm feeling increasingly disaffected about the whole process.

clearly yang should use some of his 16 million to commission new polls

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