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I like vegito more as a character so vegito
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I used phy goku black
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I finally got test 2 done with a phy team using PHY Super Broly as the damager, got lucky with a crit and an extra attack (which his super boosts atk for the subsequent super) for 61 mil
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Bump, should be able to get back to it tomorrow
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How'd you do it
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Yeah I just hit max damage with double teq goku lead and the teq vegeta nuker, took like 20 orbs though
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If it were that easy everyone would do it
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I guess I should get my gobros up to LR huh
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This art is terrible
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so is nayone planning to do the 200 stones guaranteed LR summon
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holy **** my first 5th anny tix summon got me LR TEQ Black
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I had a dream last night that they announced the game would be shutting down the day after the banners went live, and as a farewell gift they let people summon as much as they want for free lol
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In a big subnautica fan, games great, **** reaper leviathans

How far are you?
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Darn, that sucks. I saw the puppeted icon over them so I thought they could be. Good to know!
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I like them a lot but I also realize that this is a very favorable map type for them, I simply got lucky. Their passive is very useful this game but on the flipside, not being much land there is basically nowhere to use their special units, which saddens me some as I don't feel I've made much use of civs' special units much during this time.

France has been eradicated, but hoo boy has the political intrigue spiced up tenfold because of it. Evidently, renewing the war to take care of one last measly french outpost has caused my warmongering to "become an issue of global prominence." Mainly, the problem is that Russia denounced me (while being my friend), and that caused everyone else to join in the fun and do the same because they like russia more than me. A bunch of other civs also denounced venice so I tried to jump in and get some positive points, but most if not all the civs are guarded against me. Which I mean, I wasn't planning on attacking anyone else any time soon so I have no problem settling down for a while. Another option is going to war with Venice and taking the several city-states they've bought (Which is venice's specialty) and liberating them for a bonus to getting rid of my warmongering score. I might go that route, if other civs end up going to war with them first.
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Orleans and Lyon have both fallen, and the war has come to an end (for now). We decided to raze Lyon for happiness purposes, as there aren't really any extra luxuries available for trade from other civs this game, so the extra truffles aren't really worth it. We agreed to a ceasefire, but only because the French have one more outpost -- Troyes -- To the far north that needs to be eradicated to wipe out the french for good. Unfortunately, they had the favor of a city state in the direct path to that area, so we decided to just buy ourselves some time to sail some ships north unaccosted until we're ready to attack. Soon they will be gone once and for all.

The acquisitions have done wonders for our tourism and culture, as there were several works of art we plundered for ourselves, free of charge!
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PARIS IS OURS! Their meager defenses were no match for our constant frigate barrages, and now their lands will make a fine addition to our own!

https://i.imgur.com/3SlC3Gh.png

I know we will raze Orleans to the ground once we capture it, as Paris' borders . can encapsulate most of that area anyway. I haven't yet decided on Lyon, there are so many truffles there, but I don't want to be contesting Polynesian borders if I can help it. We shall see.

In other news, Brazil looks like the heavy favorite thus far, they just entered the Modern era while we only recently hit Industrial. They also have a massive culture/tourism lead as is their MO. Hopefully our spies can help us do some catching up science-wise. We're really hurting culturally because there seems to be only one culture based city state from which to get extra culture from. And Brazil has already claimed all the World Wonders that would relate to...just about anything.
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https://imgur.com/a/pHydxmQ

Look at these cities. Look at them!
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Very hard story mode Fzero gx
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We continued to build up our naval forces, might as well take advantage of that 1/3 cost. France continued to outpace us in military research so we built more caravels and the few frigates we could afford with our imported Iron from Morocco. Things looked tense for a while with France, with our navies playing chicken in the channel between Paris and Edirne, when suddenly...their navy completely backed off? Turns out they were plotting against Polynesia as well as us, so we used the downtime to...pump out more ships! And bolster our economy, but mostly pump out more ships. We used our great income from trading to win the favor of the militaristic city states that we were worried about, just in case of an attack. We held our navy around Edirne when suddenly...it happened.

They covet lands you currently own!

French fools, always a lust for power with them. They went from friendly to neutral in an instant, so I knew we had to move fast. Things became certain once a massive French navy, which I thought had headed for Polynesia, appeared right in front of, not Edirne, but Istanbul. OH CRAP. We sailed our navy full speed from Edirne toward the capital, hoping to take the French flank before they could hammer Istanbul, and they made it just in time to keep Istanbul from taking a direct siege. We ended up declaring war on France so as to get the first attacks, tried to make our prize ships perk work as well as we could. This was what the battleground looked like near the start of the war:

https://i.imgur.com/mKUQnFu.png

They're all spread out like that because they had open borders and were all bunched up around the city, but once war was declared they lost open borders and got ejected out all over the place. I had also already killed a few ships before I took this screenshot. A fierce battle ensued, but our numerical advantage proved the difference as we mopped up their split forces, and even converted quite a few ships to our cause! They then somehow had a SECOND navy come up from the cold southern waters east of Istanbul, but by that time our navy had grown even more, and they were no match for us. This is what it looked like after the battle:

https://i.imgur.com/WjuMhQP.png

We took at least 2 frigates and a few privateers to replenish our lost ships during the battle, so now we have total naval superiority. And thus, the Battle of Istanbul Harbor comes to a close, but...

https://i.imgur.com/35eXgyk.png

As you can see, the french also have some land forces trying to make landfall in Edirne. We purchased a couple of units to brace for the siege, but things will go much better once our navy recovers and we can sail it up to Paris.

PS: A reminder to take some shots of these AWFUL Babylonian settlements. These locations are such ass it's hilarious. Literally settling on snow with 2 tiles that give any resources at all.
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Went another 50 turns, pretty smooth sailing for the most part and uneventful, but I suspect things will start happening really soon. France has a navy that rivals our own and has been discovered to be plotting against us. More troublesome is that they have become allies of 2 militaristic city states that border 2 of our cities, so war would mean having to defend against them as well.

We did discover astronomy finally, so we can finally go across the ocean, and for now more of our ships have been upgraded over France's, but I don't think it'll stay that way for long. I am undecided on whether to launch the first strike and risk angering the other nations, most of whom I am friends with at the moment. But letting France get the first shot would be potentially crippling.
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Were there any items involved?

Edit: NEvermind I can't read. This is truly stupefying
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Managed to get in a 50 turn session tonight, and quite a bit has happened! Though nothing noteworthy enough to warrant an immediate update.

After much deliberation and scouting of islands, we decided to just settle our 3rd city, Ankara, to the north of Istanbul and near the Grand Mesa. We found one island in particular that would have provided us with ample wine, but it would have taken a long time to get a settler over there. Perhaps we'll keep our eye on that landmass though.

We discovered the final civ of the game, Brazil, and man they have been building wonders like crazy. It's tough to tell what their actual situation is so far though, as I haven't been able to get near their settled lands. They did make friends with us though! So we're friends with Morocco, Russian, and Brazil. Helpful to have allies in case France turns on us.

Speaking of France, they seem to be an on-again/off-again worry, as they alternate between coveting our lands and being neutral, and being completely fine and friendly with us. However, since we have been quite successful at, *ahem*...procuring additional vessels, we have decided to park a few in the sea between us, while another few ships goes out and clears up a barbarian encampment that has been wreaking havoc on our trade relations.

Finally, civ economy wise, things have looked a good deal better than the last time. Edirne has almost no production, but it is growing like crazy. We are building some more cargo ships to help reinforce our income, and we generated a great merchant to help shore up the coffers. We maxed out the tradition policy tree which helped us with happiness, so our next step is going to be to get another worker and get some trading posts built on the vast tundras of Istanbul once that tech is finished researching. Overall though, I feel like we're on an upward trajectory!

https://i.imgur.com/4WpDrQJ.png

PS: Yes, I am still contemplating fighting france, but I'm trying to hold off and see if my navy will keep them at bay. I'm not in a great position for actual conflict at the moment.
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I am so ****in devastated (panthers fan)
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Bump, doubt I'll play tonight but I should be able to get back to it tomorrow. Pso2 diverted me
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Ugh, I was super invested until the Pin manip stuff
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redrocket posted...

Reminder: The owner of the company in 2010 literally drove a Segway off a cliff and died.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Heselden

That is so depressing
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So thru 100 turns, it's tough to tell if I'm sucking or if this is normal. There's just not a lot of land to settle. I get that it's islands but most of them are like, 6 hexes or fewer. It's tough to get a read on good spots.

We first discover France to the northeast, then Morocco and russia to the west. Polynesia has started east of France, and Venice is north of Morocco. Babylon is northwest of Venice. We promptly made France mad by settling Edirne on a fertile island near their capital, despite the fact they had 3 cities already. We promised not to settle near them anymore, so hopefully that will placate them. I think we're going to settle the area with the Grand Mesa as soon as we can get our happiness back up. I don't like our capital's location, we've almost pretty much maxed out our farmable/mineable hexes and the rest is just tundra. I have a feeling that the city we found on the Mesa will be our most productive, as Edirne is mostly just jungle that will end up getting cleared out and it's rather small land-wise.

We have managed to capture a barbarian trireme, if we can build up a bit more ships, I am contemplating possibly going after France's capital to get some better land.

https://i.imgur.com/iIgKuQp.png
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We start off on...an island! Shocking! We start off building a scout and send him north, while sending our warrior to the southwest. Looks like we're at the south pole with the snow and ice, but there's still plenty of habitable land. We find 2 city states on the island so that's nice, as well as the Grand Mesa to the north of Istanbul.

https://i.imgur.com/3W5hPER.png

We decide to start with the tradition social tree, and after getting a worker we decide to hold of on a settler immediately, as I want to explore the immediate area overseas and try to find a more habitable plot of land. Really don't want to settle in the tundra even though there are some luxury resources. The long term growth would be bad.
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The Ottomans! I know next to nothing about them, so let's take a look!

Passive: All melee naval units have the "Prize ships" promotion (a chance to capture defeated enemy naval units rather than destroying them); pay 1/3 cost for naval maintenance

Special units:
Janissary (replaces the musketman): Heals 50 HP when killing a non-barbarian unit; 25% combat bonus when attacking

Sipahi (replaces the lancer): 1 extra sight and 1 extra movement, pillage tiles at no movement cost

So another military based civ, but this seems pretty well-rounded. Both land and sea specialties should lend well to this map type!
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I lied! Let's go ahead and start a new game! I'll be playing this game on Archipelago, since it's one of the few basic ones I haven't done yet. BTW here's the updated civ list:

Beaten the game:
Germany
Netherlands
Sweden
Poland
Denmark
Songhai

Failed:
Aztecs (2nd place)
Spain (Last place)

Rolls, hoping for indonesia
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Okay after going over just mine and the rams tiebreaks, here's what I've got:

For starters, if the 49ers beat the rams, the rams only playoff hopes would be the 6th seed, due to as I mentioned above the boys/skins locking up 5th. Therefore, you (scare) would need a 3-6 matchup. Is this possible?

Let's look at how/if the 49ers can get the 3 seed first. If the 49ers win, they're 8-8 with a 7-5 conf record. Due to the panthers/falcons being 8-7 currently, you first need both teams to lose and pull through on conf record, so is that possible?
Falcons: 7-5 conf record with a week 17 loss, 3-3 div record
Panthers: 6-6 conf record with a week 17 loss, 5-1 div record
49ers: 7-5 conf record with a week 17 win, 4-2 div record

So yes, it looks like the 49ers would claim the 3 seed if they won and the panthers and falcons both lost! Now as for the rams retaining the 6th seed with a loss...

Falcons: see above
Panthers: see above
Rams: 6-6 conf record with a week 17 loss, 2-4 div record

So without even having to look at the myriad other 7-8/8-7 teams that are in play, we can see that by virtue of even a single team (and we have 2 here right off the bat that would surpass the rams on ties) beating the rams, that whoever at 8-8 has the best tiebreaker would end up with the 6 seed, whether it's the nfc south rep or some other team whose ties I didn't check.

So in short, no, if I have everything correct it does not look like there is a scenario in which the 49ers can win vs the rams and then play them again in the WC round. It also appears that if this scenario happens, that an 8-8 team would need a 7-5, 4-2 or better to supplant the falcons. Does that team exist? I'm not sure, but that's the benchmark just checking the tiebreakers that i have.
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From what I can tell...

If you win, the rams would have to be 6 because 5 is already locked up by skins/boys.

If you win, you finish with a worse record (8-8) than the NFC south winner because we're both 8-7 and one of them will be 9-7 or 8-7-1, thus locking up the 3 spot and relegating you to the 4th spot.

Therefore, it seems impossible to have a scenario in which both you and the rams occupy 3 and 6 with you having won the week 17 game.

Edit: never mind I think this is wrong, I forgot to account the possibliity that both falcons and panthers can lose, in which case I have to check tiebreakers
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I just want the dog cat
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Well how about that! Songhai RULES THE WORLD!...THROUGH DIPLOMACY! Not how Askia would have done it I'm sure, but a world empire's a world empire right? We amassed 45 out of 40 necessary votes on just the 2nd vote for world leader. Also somehow, that was the first game I've ever been host of the world congress the whole game. So a good game all around!

https://i.imgur.com/raWHven.png

Thoughts on Songhai: I actually really liked them! The passive felt extremely useful for getting out to a lead early game, perhaps it's unfair to compare it to spain's but it feels much better on the basis of it being more consistent. Barbarians happen all the time early game, and 75 gold is nothing to sneeze at then. The 3x gold from pillaging also scales well into the late game, and I really liked the unique military unit.

We'll see about when I start up again, maybe I'll end up starting another game sooner than I thought, or not.
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Turns out I was able to play tonight after all!

We finished the apollo program so the spring to the finish has begun. TBH though, I suspect a diplomatic victory lies in the cards as we have enough money to p much buy out every city state.

The international games were completed and we took 1st by a landslide, so we currently have double tourism, so we're even outpacing mongolia in culture right now.

We used our significant political clout to pass autocracy as the world ideology, so now every other civ is succumbing to our pressure, thanks to that aforementioned double tourism. Mongolia and the Zulus are almost unhappy even!

Not important, but we finally can see the whole map and man, that big cloud over the other continent turned out to be a giant lake and nothing else, so there's like a ring of cities that have been using that lake as a battleground the whole time.

Edit: And morocco just eliminated Carthage's last pitiful city, so remaining are us, Morocco, Mongolia, and the Zulus.
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I must admit it's easier to start wars and give no ****s when my army is the most powerful and the other nations are far enough away that even if they declare war I have plenty of space to deter them.
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Bump, don't think I'll be able to play today but hopefully I can finish this game tomorrow! Then I imagine I will take a short break of a week or 2, since you know it can be a bit repetitive. We shall see.
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The way I read the comment from ninja, I got the feeling he was more referring to the fact that you're cutting off their income, but I can def read it as more of a "we're more important, so we deserve more leniency" type of comment. Not to mention the fact that if the guy had in fact had multiple warnings before being banned then there's really no excuse and he deserved every bit of it.
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Did a small session tonight, we ran roughshod over Carthage, destroying their cities of Utique and Hippo Regius. We thought the Zulus were going to attack us, as they had a large force on our border of Jenne within Morocco's borders, but they were moving south to join in on the Carthage carnage. Eventually, thanks to our help, they took carthage for themselves...

Which of course we couldn't let stand, carthage was our prey, so we promptly declared war on the Zulus and took it back. Carthage remains with one small city and we remain way out in front.
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At last, Indonesia is no more! It took an extra bit of effort because they settled a new city south of their other one, but it was like paper before my army.

Our economy got another big boost because I took an ideology tenet that reduces unit maintenance by 33%, so our income went from 220 to 300. Our culture has also benefited greatly, as we now have the most tourism in the world. Our science is tops in the world. It's looking like we're gonna cruise to the finish here.
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Babylon has been erased from the game, every other civ besides me attacking them was too much. They were my only real friend left so that's tough. Every other civ is guarded against me now, even Morocco, thanks to their friendship with the Zulus (who I previously denounced). However, we have agreed to go to war against Dido in 10 turns, so perhaps that will repair our friendship.

Meanwhile, Jakarta has come under our complete control finally, I wasted no time spending the bulk of my treasury getting them essential happiness buildings.

Finally, the World's Fair has come and gone, and we won by a landslide! That's a golden age, a free social policy, and double culture for 20 turns. Worth it!

Edit: We finished building the Prora, a great wonder that gives us extra happiness and a free social policy. Combined with the other free policy, we finished the Commerce policy tree! This is huge because the final bonus you get from that tree gives you +2 happiness for each luxury resource. Our happiness just went up from 5 to 21 from the prora, and then up to 46 from the commerce tree. We are happy forever now!
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Grand Kirby posted...

I could never stand playing as a warmaker. It just makes the game take so much longer I can't stand it.

I think this is also part of it. Once indonesia falls, I'd have to spend time sailing my dudes over there, building up a stronger navy, taking on 2 powerhouses in their own right...by the time I do that, I could be building space parts or buying city state favor more efficiently, etc. Pure domination most of the time feels like a "Oh **** this civ is about to win I have to take them down" backup plan than being a very feasible plan A.
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Don't worry raka, though they may die this game, I'll be sure to try extra hard when i play as them
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Jakarta is OURS! However, we were forced to end the campaign afterwards due to unforeseen casualties, mainly caused by a small fleet of frigates hidden behind the city. We have plenty of money to refresh our forces, and Indonesia only has one city left. It will only be a matter of time before they are gone for good.
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The 2nd Indonesia-Songhai War has begun! We have long been prepared for this conflict. We have cast a wide net along the plains separating our territory, backed up by long range artillery for support. Not only is our formation better, but our troops are more numerous. Soon their paltry resistance will fall, and we will be free to pelt Jakarta from afar before conquering it.

https://i.imgur.com/pBUD1bF.png

Meanwhile, both Mongolia and Indonesia have declared war on Babylon. I can only assume the world smells blood and is aiming for the last of their fertile lands for themselves.
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At last, some wars that don't involve us are going on. The Zulus declared war on Babylon in a classic land grab, and took their city of Dur-Kurizalgu. They actually almost took their capital of Babylon and I assume almost wiped them from the game (there's still a big fog cloud over the middle of that continent) but it would seem Babylon finally broke the siege as the city health is starting to go back up.

Meanwhile, Morocco finally declared war on Carthage, in act 2 of a very old rivalry. Morocco came out on top, forcing a cease fire while negotiating the ceding of Utique to them. Carthage now sits firmly in last place on the scoreboard and in most demographics, with Babylon not far behind.

Back to our empire, we continued for a while just building up our infrastructure and trying to keep our happiness from going under. Finally, after dedicating considerable resources to it, we became the first to adopt an ideology after building 3 factories, and got 2 free policies and a 3rd regular policy timed just right. We adopted autocracy, which has several tenets that give happiness for military buildings, so after dedicating our cities to building them, our happiness shot up from 0 to 20 and is still rising. I do believe we will lay siege to Indonesia soon now that our empire is happy again. However, we will need to keep an eye on that happiness, as Mongolia has adopted a different ideology and with them being the most cultured civ in the game right now, our public opinion detracts from our happiness. It's going to be important for us to keep our culture up.

Finally, we were finally able to build the east india company in our capital city of Gao, which gave our economy a huge boost in conjunction with dedicating a period of time to reestablishing our trade routes. We're now bringing in 150+ gold per turn, tops in the game.
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As we end for the night, we finally convince Carthage and the Zulus to end hostilities. We had already managed to convince Mongolia to, as we had literally 0 interaction with them on the battlefield. Seems like they probably had a deal with Carthage and joined the war out of obligation. While this war was going on, Morocco and Babylon had a little kerfuffle that ended pretty quickly.

Our lack of iron once again is going to be a problem soon, as we're in the era where we're starting to get more advanced ships, and one of them, the Frigate, needs iron to be built/upgraded. Jakarta has iron...but our happiness is on the edge of being unhappy, so now is not a good time to conquer more. I am waiting until we get into ideologies and hopefully I can scrounge up some happiness from those policies.
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GANON1025 posted...

Wow I got an LR from my weekend tickets! It was LR Gohan but still!

Look at this guy, throwing around LR Gohan like everyone has one
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Man, it sucks having most of the world hate you. Carthage ended up marching an army on the city of Jenne, which we were able to defend thanks to the help of a well-placed Citadel. They ALSO sailed a small navy to Tombouctu, that was a threat for a time before we were able to bring our own navy to bear. THEN the Zulus sailed some ships over to our capital of Gao, taking us completely by surprise and getting the city to almost half health before we were able to fight it off.

Regarding the war with Indonesia, we decided last minute not to take their capital city of Jakarta just yet, as we were suffering from happiness issues at the time. Instead, we decided to raze their cities of Medan to the north, and Massakar to the southwest, and ending the war in the process. Doing so was an arduous ordeal, as our happiness momentarily spiked to the point where our cities would have started revolting had it remained there. Luckily, we held out juuuuust long enough to endure it, and now the cities are no more, and Indonesia's potential is cut in half. We cut some of our military, but not a lot, just enough to help get costs under control as we cannot trade with anyone right now due to the seas being hostile. Luckily, our continued exploration of the Liberty policy tree got us some extra happiness, so now we're safe for the time being. Our treasury is starting to suffer however. I would like to make peace with the rest of the world before resuming our campaign against Indonesia.

Surprisingly, Morocco seems to be our friends for real, as they have not joined Carthage and have in fact been plotting against them. Meanwhile, we rescued a Babylonian civilian from some barbarians so we are friends with them now. Overall, our civs potential is very high but we need to get logistics under control before we continue our plan of world domination.
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