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It's just a game, take a chill pill lol. People are wrong all the time about stuff

Day Gambler is such a better way to implement this role than this tbh

no need to defend my honor Ulti, I am more than capable.

You said it yourself: the game doesn't deserve to be active tbh

also sorry I was too busy being right day 1 and being active day 2 before this shitshow of a power showed up

But yes this is just ulti

I like my scum case on you much better than Ulti's tbf

Anyway this day sucks and is boring so let's end it early because it sucks and is boring

##vote: Mike

ulti if you get cool protection powers your sorry ass better protect me I don't want my last day to be nullified.

Keep tidus safe at all costs he is my favorite.

also if a third party successfully murders a town in a 13 player game its a little strange

I mean your role annoys me but I have grown out of my whining phase (for the most part)

could just lynch ulti to be safe

What if we just don't vote

what did this have to do with bodyguard

I guess if you have that power there's nothing to be done about it but uh wtf

wait

This role makes no sense.

you'd be able to just single handedly take out town's ability to lynch unless we lynch you. 'oh if it isnt wol just try again'

that is like, staggeringly anti town

Like if we do that and have one more wrong lynch town loses probably. What type of stupid game is this

That is the stupidest role I have ever heard of

Just once usually

Sure, maybe you have lost your zeal and you are just bad town now. I am open to that.

Claim?

I prefer town so I can show people my thoughts and go into why I think people are scum in real time its fun

I feel you, mafia is a bit of a solved game for me after playing in mafia universe some time ago. Love ffxiv though so I thought why not

masterplum posted...

Considering you are lunging after town right now, I would say bat being alive might be better

Now this folks is a scum slip I can get behind.

MikeTavish posted...

Given a choice, who would have been your lynch yesterday, Chris?

I feel as if this is obvious my friend.

(Plum)

Also people say a lot of silly things all the time. Lynching all of them is how town loses games

masterplum posted...

Bat said something that clearly could come from noob scum. It was a better lead than any other shenanigans, and I still disagree with you about the importance of lynching a bodyguard. Bodyguards still one for one scum. It doesn't get you ahead.

Yes, a town bat dying at night is the same as a town chris or town death dying at night. Totally the same.

MikeTavish posted...

Ulti is confirmed town. I know because of my own role that the WoL is in this game somewhere and no one countered his claim.

Sure why not, but he's probably not bulletproof

So that makes Ulti town friend and red probably town friend so let's lynch plum/isquen/crescent and all this a game

red13n posted...

We don't get to do this. Second name now.

Also I don't know who this is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFie73O-HE4

Basically I have a lot of problems with this stance.

Like for one I saw in real time yesterday that you were not behaving in a pro town way. I identified town on bat (death for starters) due to how they were interacting and being able to see their thread of logic but you were acting contrary to how I expect you to act Usually as town you are all too eager to 'go with chris see where it leads' or somesuch but you were mega passive and then hopped onto the poor town bat train.

My first thought is you are probably the only scum on it just based on how others reacted to the "slip." You should know just the same as I that such things are rarely assured, but you went all coin tosser on me. Not cool imo

Sometimes you roll scum too

Too old to doing much commanding these days, and the level of competition here is too low for me to get bent out of shape.

I gave good reasoning, people didn't listen, that's just how it is sometimes.

Now let's talk about how you killed protection day one for dubious reasons

red13n posted...

In this topic we see plums spine turn to jello in real time.

Hi town red

"apathetic" I came in, said the lynch was bad, and then came in later and said the lynch was bad.

I was like the only person who had multiple posts about it. Even death was like 'oh oops yeah I guess you did'

MikeTavish posted...

Okay so that Ulti claim blows my mind, not because he claimed Warrior of Light (in fact, I was fairly confident that would be his claim from almost his first post when he was hinting big power), but because he claimed Bulletproof which is the power I kind of assumed I could GIVE to Ulti.

I'm not sure if I should just outright claim what I am right now, but I'm coming pretty close to that point because I'm really not positive when a better point to do so would be and now I'm not even 100% sure what the point of my role is.

I know I'm being frustratingly vague and I'm probably going to claim today regardless but I'd like to get a little more discussion going before I inevitably make this day all about me.

On that note...Chris, I want to be your town buddy but I distinctly remember being told that you were the night 1 target of choice for any mafia team that wants to win. Why do you think they let you live?

because ben gave them a janitor instead of a strongman

UltimaterializerX posted...

Trash scum player that gets rattled and emotional very easily, and needs teammates to do the heavy lifting. I've been on teams with her and she's made of glass. One bit of pressure from the game's heavy hitters and she'll make a mistake in-game, cry to her teammates about how she wants to replace out, and/or go inactive.

Legitimately a very good town player. If we give her some time, her alignment will become obvious soon enough.

Sure

death to plum ##vote: Plum

red13n posted...

This is...a non-thought?

Correct

Isquen please try again.

Ulti do you even read my posts? So rude

okay we all know ulti is lying everyone, but like bat ulti lying in mafia is like him breathing, it isn't alignment based

but not in a 'you are scum' way

Anyway thoughts on Crescent everyone?

UltimaterializerX posted...

I'm actually just going to up and claim. Warrior of Light, Town Bulletproof.

BP + BG in a game of 13 is a decent amount of "things scum has to shoot through at night while also worrying about scanners", which is why I ended up believing Bat yesterday. It's a perfectly clean role pairing in a small game. It's also why I have major questions about Mike noticing this yesterday without pursuing it.

I claimed "my role works with BG" before he did, but Mike did not vote for me or really suspect me at all. That's a red flag, because he should have seen my posts and thought of me as scummy. He did not, which means one of two things: he is scum and perspective slipped because he knows I'm town long before he actually should, or he is simply telling the truth and he's a town power role. I lean toward the former, but the latter is definitely possible in a world where the dude is just rusty and disguised his role badly or whatever.

Doubt

red13n posted...

You didn't say much outside of Shonen's "slip". So I am curious, why should we feel ok with you?

Kind of obvious based on his post you know

what happened with paypal

anyway I feel like scum plum votes where he did because he feels iffy about not having a vote on. There was no other viable lynch. I think town plum just kind of goes 'whatever' and doesnt take a stance there but I feel as if he felt pressured to do so.

Ulti could be scum though based on his post today. Anyone who guesses why gets town points

Okay let's see I need 6 town friends today.

Plum and Crescent are not town friends atm

Mike, Scare, Banana, and Tidus you can be town friends

Ulti, Isquen, and red are in my "I guess by my logic one of you is scum and two of you are town, but not sure what yet" list

Mike you are not allowed to suspect me because it would annoy me

anyway pretty sure plum was saying the opposite of normal plum things and crescent is smart but while I was napping nothing good happened. I expect good things to happen when smart people are typing the words and yet all that happened is my point on bat was ignored. Tut tut

red keeps me alive fairly often. Maybe that would change since I think the last time I was town and he was scum I murdered his entire team but even so.

My eyes today are on plum and crescent

Death is a perfectly fine kill in worlds where you dont have a way to be sure you kill me night one.

Mzero... I am not sure about.

MikeTavish posted...

I'm a lot more suspicious of anyone who was against the Shonen lynch because I really think a lot of what he did was scummy as hell between the slip, his reaction to the slip, and his responses afterwards. I feel like the only way someone would consider him town was if they knew something the rest of us don't. Yes, that includes you.

Will say more later, gotta get ready and head out to work.

Ah yes, the whole 'I was so right even though I was totally wrong so the fact you were right means you are suspicious.'

A terrible way to play mafia to be sure, but a town one nonetheless.

Isquen posted...

Still at work for another half hour, but I'll make presumptions.

1.) I very likely called out at least one scum with one of my votes between Plum and Mike.
2.) There was a mayor-type voting as the six that lynched Haurchefant, since 7 was supposed to be the cutoff. Either that or our invisible 14th is pulling strings.

End of day caused lynch, didn't it?

Mzero likely got janitored, it is a mafia role which obscure the flip of the target

Hello Mr. Tavish. Now that you know that was a town flip what are your thoughts on day one?

Also I am guessing (guessing) there are 3 scum and one of them is a double voter or some weird thing and that's why our count is off. 3/13 with some voodoo power messing with the lynch makes a lot of sense with a lot of villains in FFXIV so I am going to just go with that for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTwFl6OIAk

Required watching for:
Scare, Tidus, Banana, Plum, Mike

anyway I think there isn't a huge amount of scum on this list, one at most I THINK without looking (hi plum)

Maybe scare, didn't even look his way day one, but banana was okay and so was mike. Given Death's town flip my radar is probably doing OK this game so I will operate with that and hope we can lynch scum today.