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Just saw it. Very good movie. What's strange though is that this movie, unexpectedly, hit me emotionally a few times throughout the movie. This blindsided me. I don't know if I was influenced because most the actors was Black and so was I or it was just done well. Hell, maybe it's none of that and I'm just weird. I don't know.

So... was it just me?
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M_Live posted...

Considering that in a lot of cases, you can directly sell loot/loot boxes ( like PUBG), or there's a black market for selling (like the FIFA/Madden/etc ultimate team stuff), which is basically an option to "cash out", I really do see these things as gambling, and taking advantage of kids who are primarily playing these games.

They build the black market with the game in madden LMAO
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Maze_ posted...

The defense is that it makes cash money

Naturally. What's sad is... No gamer wants the government to regulate video games... However.. these dumbass companies are going to force this on them because they refuse to get their shit together.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

What ass?

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Unreliableness posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Unreliableness posted...

ImInTHIS posted...

I don't know what's going on, but it's happening way too much and these are teens. No way we have this many mental health lunatics running around, atleast not teenage boys

Its prescription drugs.

Nope.

Yep; it is. Sorry youre just unwilling to accept that the blame lies with something other than firearms. Pls go.

LMAO
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What the hell? How does this matter at all based on the current situation? Simple. It doesn't.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

I know why he froze
I can understand it
I can even sympathize with it

But even I would call myself a coward had it been me in his shoes
I wouldn't be able to live with myself
after having listened to children die
because I was thinking about my own retirement.

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80/80

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU WATCH THIS!!



Skip to 4:23 to see the questioning.

It's pretty pathetic. The dude refused to answered the majority of questions and tried to play dumb about certain things. He looked like some guy stressed the fuck out who was forced in front of camera without a single plan of action which exposed the ESA completely.
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Dark_Spiret posted...

gun rights have been getting hacked away at for over 100 years now and yet everyone on the left is still wondering why the gun community wont budge and act the way they do. fuck off.

Gun rights have been changing because guns have change significantly since 1918.
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Let me ask you guys this then. If you can keep all current rifles, handguns, etc legal... but lower the max magazine size to 10 rounds and max Rof of 240 RPM.. Would you lose your shit over that too?
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Once the AR is banned they'll go after anything that isn't lever or bolt action. Hand guns will be next

So you have no Defense. Just fear.

"Ooh he's calling us out so I'll say he is afraid."
Own up to it kid.

I'm just telling the truth.

You're telling your truth. My truth disagrees with it. What else you got?

How so?
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Darmik posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

You can bumpfire anything that's semi automatic and has a stock and a trigger (essentially what happens is the recoil from each shot is what's responsible for pulling the trigger due to a peculiar shooting stance, and it continues in a feedback loop). Bump stocks enhance the ability to do this, so it ends up in a legal gray area where it's technically not fully automatic but it achieves the same effect.

My question is why people made this shit to begin with and why people ever thought it was okay to sell to the regular public.

Because people like shooting guns...?

Yes it was irresponsible to create such a device, but they were meeting a market demand where one existed.

Also I don't think it really makes a big difference in the case of the Vegas shooting. When your target is literally just a massive crowd to be indiscriminately fired into from a high perch with essentially all the time in the world to reload and empty all of your magazines, it doesn't really matter if you did it at 800 or 240 RPM. You can spam a semi auto trigger pretty fast if your aim is of no concern.

Are you kidding me? That's a massive drop in RPM. That is time for people to run. That is less bullets being shot in the same amount of time. That matters a ton in saving lives.

Or did I read this wrong?

You read it wrong. Or skipped the part where it's a massive crowd tumbling over itself in confusion while a guy on a high perch is shooting fish in a barrel. It would take longer but he would have the same amount of casualties is what I'm saying.

Let's do some math. Let's have the shooter has ten 30 round magazines. The average reload time is 5 seconds based on what another guy said in this topic so let's use that.

Emptying 300 rounds going 800 RPM including reloads takes 67.5 seconds.

Emptying 300 rounds going 240 RPM including reloads takes 120 seconds.

Are you saying are you saying 52.5 seconds extra wouldn't have made a difference? Really?

Umm yeah. Absolutely.

Wow... I guess we agree to disagree here.
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

ToonLinkWithGun posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Once the AR is banned they'll go after anything that isn't lever or bolt action. Hand guns will be next

So you have no Defense. Just fear.

"Ooh he's calling us out so I'll say he is afraid."
Own up to it kid.

I'm just telling the truth.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Darmik posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

You can bumpfire anything that's semi automatic and has a stock and a trigger (essentially what happens is the recoil from each shot is what's responsible for pulling the trigger due to a peculiar shooting stance, and it continues in a feedback loop). Bump stocks enhance the ability to do this, so it ends up in a legal gray area where it's technically not fully automatic but it achieves the same effect.

My question is why people made this shit to begin with and why people ever thought it was okay to sell to the regular public.

Because people like shooting guns...?

Yes it was irresponsible to create such a device, but they were meeting a market demand where one existed.

Also I don't think it really makes a big difference in the case of the Vegas shooting. When your target is literally just a massive crowd to be indiscriminately fired into from a high perch with essentially all the time in the world to reload and empty all of your magazines, it doesn't really matter if you did it at 800 or 240 RPM. You can spam a semi auto trigger pretty fast if your aim is of no concern.

Are you kidding me? That's a massive drop in RPM. That is time for people to run. That is less bullets being shot in the same amount of time. That matters a ton in saving lives.

Or did I read this wrong?

You read it wrong. Or skipped the part where it's a massive crowd tumbling over itself in confusion while a guy on a high perch is shooting fish in a barrel. It would take longer but he would have the same amount of casualties is what I'm saying.

Let's do some math. Let's have the shooter has ten 30 round magazines. The average reload time is 5 seconds based on what another guy said in this topic so let's use that.

Emptying 300 rounds going 800 RPM including reloads takes 67.5 seconds.

Emptying 300 rounds going 240 RPM including reloads takes 120 seconds.

Are you saying are you saying 52.5 seconds extra wouldn't have made a difference? Really?
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Once the AR is banned they'll go after anything that isn't lever or bolt action. Hand guns will be next

So you have no Defense. Just fear.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Darmik posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

You can bumpfire anything that's semi automatic and has a stock and a trigger (essentially what happens is the recoil from each shot is what's responsible for pulling the trigger due to a peculiar shooting stance, and it continues in a feedback loop). Bump stocks enhance the ability to do this, so it ends up in a legal gray area where it's technically not fully automatic but it achieves the same effect.

My question is why people made this shit to begin with and why people ever thought it was okay to sell to the regular public.

Because people like shooting guns...?

Yes it was irresponsible to create such a device, but they were meeting a market demand where one existed.

Also I don't think it really makes a big difference in the case of the Vegas shooting. When your target is literally just a massive crowd to be indiscriminately fired into from a high perch with essentially all the time in the world to reload and empty all of your magazines, it doesn't really matter if you did it at 800 or 240 RPM. You can spam a semi auto trigger pretty fast if your aim is of no concern.

Are you kidding me? That's a massive drop in RPM. That is time for people to run. That is less bullets being shot in the same amount of time. That matters a ton in saving lives.

Or did I read this wrong?
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GregShmedley posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

GregShmedley posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

It's not pointless. It may not Nebraska the big fix needed but it will help without question. The attitude of "it isn't attacking the main issue so it is pointless" stance is stupid.

Also on your second point. Maybe we should limit pistol magazine sizes too. Or is that too much of a sacrifice to protect yourself

No, it really wouldn't help. At all. Handguns are used more than rifles and their use would only increase.

No, magazine limits have nothing to do with it as proven in the Virginia Tech shooting.

But judging by your response, it doesn't appear you want to have an actual discussion and would rather be a passive aggressive smart ass.

How would reducing the size of pistol magazines have no impact on mass shootings?

Because it takes less than five seconds to change magazines for any weapon regardless of how trained with it you are. In a shooting situation where the victims are sitting ducks, that isn't going to make a difference unless there is an ongoing firefight or someone is waiting for a small window to attack--which I don't believe has commonly been the case in these incidents.

OK? If you have a 14 round mag vs a 7 round mag... you just doubled the amount of downtime the shooter has from shooting didn't you? The speed isn't what matters. It's how often
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r4X0r posted...

Because there's tens of millions of other people who own them that DIDN'T shoot up a concert, so obviously the problem is the psychopath who shot up the concert, not the tens of millions of semi auto rifles that weren't used to shoot up a concert.

When there's a stabbing, we blame the stabber. When there's a rape, we blame the rapist. When there's a bombing, we blame the bomber. When there's a shooting.... "WE HAVE TO BAN GUNS!"

You know why this logic is silly to me? Have you seen the laws in place? They aren't there to stop the majority from doing dumb things. They are there for the minority.

Go ask for speed limits to be removed because the majority drive responsible and you will get laughed at. They know laws are for the people that are willing to do those things or be irresponsible while doing it.
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GregShmedley posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

It's not pointless. It may not Nebraska the big fix needed but it will help without question. The attitude of "it isn't attacking the main issue so it is pointless" stance is stupid.

Also on your second point. Maybe we should limit pistol magazine sizes too. Or is that too much of a sacrifice to protect yourself

No, it really wouldn't help. At all. Handguns are used more than rifles and their use would only increase.

No, magazine limits have nothing to do with it as proven in the Virginia Tech shooting.

But judging by your response, it doesn't appear you want to have an actual discussion and would rather be a passive aggressive smart ass.

How would reducing the size of pistol magazines have no impact on mass shootings?
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Assault rifles are banned. Try being informed before having opinions.

Oh excuse me. I though semi-automatic Rifles that are magazine feed count as Assault Rifles. Let's change that. What not ban AR type of Rifles? Or are you going to correct me again and ignore the real question I was asking?

It's kind of important to distinguish between an extremely function-altering feature, yes. It's not semantics, it completely changes the discussion.

No it's not important. There is no contemporary ban on assault rifles. You know exactly he's referring to the assault weapon ban. Gun nuts just feel to be asshats whenever someone incorrectly uses assault rifle or clip. It's pathetic. I bet you guys feel so smart correcting people too.

So you seriously don't see what's relevant about distinguishing between a fully automatic and semi automatic weapon? I mean the government did enough to ban them.

So you are going to keep doing this dance. Understood.

GregShmedley posted...

Because it is a pointless, bandaid fix to a bigger issue.

Not only are handguns used more in both homicides and mass shootings, they result in identical death counts in mass shootings with the exception of Orlando and Vegas.

It's not pointless. It may not be the big fix needed but it will help without question. The attitude of "it isn't attacking the main issue so it is pointless" stance is stupid.

Also on your second point. Maybe we should limit pistol magazine sizes too. Or is that too much of a sacrifice to protect yourself?
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Assault rifles are banned. Try being informed before having opinions.

Oh excuse me. I though semi-automatic Rifles that are magazine feed count as Assault Rifles. Let's change that. What not ban AR type of Rifles? Or are you going to correct me again and ignore the real question I was asking?

It's kind of important to distinguish between an extremely function-altering feature, yes. It's not semantics, it completely changes the discussion.

So are you just not going to answer the question about why they are needed or are we just going to do this dance all day?
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Assault rifles are banned. Try being informed before having opinions.

Oh excuse me. I though semi-automatic Rifles that are magazine feed count as Assault Rifles. Let's change that. What not ban AR type of Rifles? Or are you going to correct me again and ignore the real question I was asking?
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I mean... you can hunt with your hunting rifles or shotguns... You can protect yourselves with pistols.

What logical purpose does ARs serve?
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"School shootings isn't influenced by guns. It's clearly violent video games."

What a clown
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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/texas-superintendent-vows-suspend-students-walkout-protest-guns-113504033--abc-news-topstories.html

They are acting like it's the worst thing ever. A student even went to the principle to get their blessing to do a 17 minute walkout to honor the 17 victims... He told that student that "If you walk out... keep walking." Pretty much a guarantee suspension. That's so heartless.
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Arming teachers is one of the dumbest ideas ever. Let's ignore the laundry list of potiental consequences of that. As long as the illusion of safety is demonstrated then why not right? Smdh
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amerk posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

What? I'm just making a point. If I say the new console should be all digital, some people will get very angry

If the demand was there to ensure the next console was physical only, would you not be angry as well?

Meh. Kinda. I have done physical only since the NES days. If anything, I'll be annoyed because we have the capability to do digital without it costing extra money but they purposely hold themselves back to please a future minority.
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ClunkerSlim posted...

I use to be a console gamer who has now switched over to the all digital PC marketplace. So let me just say...

Physical media is cheaper and you need to hold onto that for as long as you can. Once Sony switches over to a closed digital marketplace then youre fucked. It will completely kill any source of competition and five year old games will stay at $60 and $70. Hold on to the physical media market with a death grip.

We are progressing past paying for a game.
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Funkydog posted...

LordMarshal posted...

And you dont really own the game.

Also a big issue. At least with a physical copy it can't be taken away/you lose access to it (short of losing it/being stolen)

I have went all digital this generation and never lost access to a single game.
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LordMarshal posted...

And you dont really own the game.

That matters so little it's practically irrelevant
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DevsBro posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

What? I'm just making a point. If I say the new console should be all digital, some people will get very angry

Prove it.

I'll give it a shot
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Shadowplay posted...

To be fair, since game developers refuse to compress their textures now, resulting in huge file sizes, combined with stagnant internet speeds and data caps, physical is often the best choice for some people

The real danger is the internet monopoly. Internet should be WAY faster on average than it is now. Companies are purposely holding it back and charging too much to fill their pockets. I think our way out of this is Google and... IMO if they decided to get involved.. Microsoft. If both companies offer fiber optic type of internet and compete with each other, prices will defiantly go down and it would be more wide spread. That's just a dream though lol
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What? I'm just making a point. If I say the new console should be all digital, some people will get very angry
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People are holding back progress for what? To hold the game in your hand? To "own it" when that means very little in reality when compared to digital? That value is so little compared to the positives of digital.

Not having to go to the store to buy it is the smallest positive. All digital leads to things like EA access and Gamepass which gives you access to tons of games for 10 dollars a month. 10 dollars. 120 dollars a year gives you access to 100s of games that are actually major titles for the cost of 2 phyisical copies.

Why are gamers fighting innovation?
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