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TommyG663513 posted...

Not every single aspect of playing sports amounts to physical prowess. Some of it is sport specific intelligence and general decision making.

Even then, males have better CNS efficiency than women do even trained as in a woman can't catch up if she trains

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looked posted...

Its still a bad example because Arnold wasnt an elite athlete, his physique wouldnt guarantee that he would dominate womens sports. Even if if you look at his brief powerlifting career, his numbers were that impressive, and wouldnt be good enough to win womens competitions.

Dude, what? Arnold was an elite athlete, he just used his for a beauty pageant

His powerlifting and weightlifting numbers would set records (dude bench 315 for reps)

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Arnold intentionally gave Lou some bad advice that probably contributed in some way to him winning.

I can see the bad advice making Lou win 2nd, but he was 3rd place. Pumping Iron was biased in not giving the man who got 2nd place much screen time

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looked posted...

This probably wouldnt go the way you think. Bodybuilding isnt an athletic competition, its basically a beauty pageant based on the subjective opinion of judges. He would have the most muscle mass, but that doesnt mean he would be considered the most aesthetic female body. Mass is only one factor. Even as male he is considered probably the best of all time, but terms of muscle at 220lbs hes quite a bit smaller than the 275-300 bodybuilders of today.

I didn't get the feeling he was meaning bodybuilding, but sports in general

Tyranthraxus posted...

Arnold won over Lou Ferrigno at the time who was actually much more massive than him.

I think Arnold and Serge honestly had better physiques than Lou did, though Arnold did bully Lou which messed with his head during the competition

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pinky0926 posted...

These events are useful because they're more linear and track a very specific kind of performance (compared to say tennis, which has so many different kinds of skills and physical requirements thrown in at once).

Even in a skill sport athleticism plays a huge role as well. Baseball is thought of as a skill sport but MLB players are the best all around athletes of any league

I think people also don't acknowledge that top tier athletes can get away with a lot

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InhumaneRaider posted...

Who said this though...

It is an issue that would arise and need to be addressed. Most likely it would be a ban on transwomen from women's sports

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InhumaneRaider posted...

Except HRT has been shown to decrease muscle mass.

This assumes a transwoman would never dope, which is a naive take

Also the question is does HRT put a transwomen at the level of other women. UR showed one who after a year still benched 233 at 180, that is a super good bench for a woman (especially if her proportions are closer to a males)

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InhumaneRaider posted...

I'm speaking exclusively on these individuals being on anabolic/androgen steroids, not the comparison.

Being androgens it is pretty consistent. Like you can muscle mass easier just from being on them compared to someone who trains

You'd actually probably get laughed out the fitness industry if you suggested androgens don't help (though you'd be a good ally to get politicians to deschedule them)

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InhumaneRaider posted...

Right and these studies, are they on a general, consistent basis or...is it case-by-case?

Consistent basis

I mean do we need to do a meta analysis to compare being black to being on anabolics?

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InhumaneRaider posted...

That's still not enough to make a definitive conclusion, issues like these are often judged on a case-by-case basis. As I said over and over, this same argument can be made for excluding Black people from running.

Except it is not. If you have a one percent advantage over your highest competition that is cheating. Being a genetically blessed person of Sub-Saharan African doesn't offer this advantage. Taking anabolics does

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InhumaneRaider posted...

Same goes for Transwomen.

Actually there is research that suggests they can have an over 1% advantage, which would be considered cheating (also they always have the option to take androgens to stay ahead)

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InhumaneRaider posted...

They're still dominating running sports and that's basically the argument for trans individuals, is that they'll dominate their respective sport due to "biological differences", which some claim in the reasoning for Black people dominating that specific sport.

Like I said it isnt so great that non-black people won't be able to compete. If transwoman comes in and resets Flo Jo's record (which is plausible) then that would say an unfair advantage

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Skin color is not comparable to tour muscle mass, bone density, size, hormones etc..

But genetics are

Black people are more likely to produce people who have higher bone density and muscle mass. Also higher ratio of limb length to torso length which leads to a higher ratio in Area to volume.

Like I said not so much where it is considered an unfair advantage. There are non black people who have these body types

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InhumaneRaider posted...

I'm just saying, it would then provide the evidence that folks need to support their arguments. We see that Black people constantly dominate running sports, but for some reason, people aren't arguing to exclude them from that sport.

I think it's because black anatomy doesn't give them an advantage as say someone who takes anabolics/androgens. I think the barometer is like 1%. As he is saying though, if you go this route it leads to the elimination of women's sports

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I think another thing not added in the discussion (along with menstrual cycles), it is incredibly easy to dupe a doping test. Not fool proof, but it is well known people who take extra androgens continue to compete as naturals in sports

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I think another thing missing: how the menstrual cycle affects performance in sports

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BreezyExcursion posted...

the rarest achievement i have on steam is for playing a single game of the wnba mode in nba 2k21

Everything about this is hilariously wrong

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ImperialScrolls posted...

Folks, look up track & field statistics sometime. The fastest women who have ever lived wouldn't be able to win a California boys high school state championship meet, even if they were able to replicate their world record performances. There's a reason why sports have been segregated by sex (not gender identity); men and women differ vastly in terms of size, speed, musculature, and so on.

Don't forget these women were juiced on androgens too

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pinky0926 posted...

If we don't want gender discrimination in sport then we need to do away with gender discrimination altogether. Let's not have male/female categories at all. Problem solved.

Everyone can compete in one category. Sounds good right?

Yes

Also please advocate for the descheduling of Androgens as controlled substances

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Her body looks good

Her husband's body isn't bad either, could use more size in the shoulders though

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The_Creep_2020 posted...

So women are ok to prefer men who are overweight?

Technically yes, I'm considered overweight but no one who's seen me would think I am anywhere near unhealthy

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The_Creep_2020 posted...

Would you say the same about men?

Because of lean body mass and body structure, no

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I think most men (or anyone into women) should prefer women to be at a normal weight tbh

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Limbs are the worst part for a lady to wear their tattoos especially the arms. Why bring attention to an area that has 0 shape?

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Nazanir posted...

French is way fucking worse.

First you learn the bullshit grammar. Then you have to learn all the exceptions to the rule you just learned.

English isn't my first language and it was WAY easier to learn.

French has less grammar than Spanish. I think House verbs are my biggest hang-up

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Well English isn't a standardized language per se like Spanish(Castilian), so that complicates matters a little. I wouldn't choose Arabic as Fu97a would be like recreating Classical Latin and the dialects are in a Vulgar Latin stage

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Squall28 posted...

Kung fu was fine until random white guy shows up, and learns everything in one montage. Then beats all the Asians who trained their entire lives.

Didn't Jon Jones do that in MMA?

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Murphiroth posted...

Yeah but his daughter and Cassie would 100% use it and Jax is 100% the kind of dad to use slang he picks up from his kid regardless of how cringy it is. Hell he'd do it to embarrass her.

So you're saying Jax is corny? He said it seriously here

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RebelElite791 posted...

lmao btfo

The article has a section that demonstrates as why my mom, dad and their family members weren't using it

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smoke_break posted...

How about if the line was this?

"I'm not waiting centuries for people to wake up."

That is more believable tbh

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voldothegr8 posted...

lol that crowd of idiots weren't usurping anything

This

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YourDrunkFather posted...

Youve gotta learn to be a little less transparent with your trolling TC.

Getting a little too obvious now.

This, no black man born before 1981 is using the term "woke"

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jason19192 posted...

Woke means being aware of injustices in society, so how is that line bad?

Because that is something a black millennial would say, Jax is a black Baby Boomer

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UnfairRepresent posted...

"I'm not waiting centuries for people to get woke."

Yeah that was way too much

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ShineboxPhil posted...

I bet they were struggling on ideas for jax and just went with this

That is exactly what it feels like. Talk about forced

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WrestlinFan posted...

-a hostile or argumentative meeting or situation between opposing parties. is a definition of confrontation.
Do I need to pick a fist fight with him in a ran down bar for it to matter in 2021 or what.

You could knock on his door

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The best part is he fought a Rus' ma... I mean Russian

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MaddenDude-- posted...

It depends, are those muslims white or no

Well Arabs are considered a white tribe here in the US

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What about Max B?

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Does he mean Hispanic whites?

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teepan95 posted...

From what I understand, Brazilians aren't Hispanic due to not being Spanish-speaking

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

Hispania represents the entire peninsula of Iberia. It can get more complicated (Galician is the Portuguese spoken in Northwest Spain)

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Machete posted...

Lol attrack

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Tenlaar posted...

You are literally arguing that they should have given him a worse meal for no reason other than it would make you feel a little better if he was eating a cold ham sandwich with water instead of a cooked meal. It's not special treatment to have a meal brought in for somebody in a station that has no cafeteria instead of somebody giving him their own bagged lunch, it's just such a ridiculous argument and you're so stuck on it.

She wants him to get a reduced sentence

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Wii_Shaker posted...

If he actually is unemployed, I hope this helps him find a job.

That's the thing. Dude says he is employed

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Tenlaar posted...

You're really stuck on this whole "they should have given him the worst food they could have possibly gotten away with" thing, aren't you? Why is this such a weirdly hot issue for you?

You know why

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Damn_Underscore posted...

I am a huge advocate of prison reform to switch the fundamental ideology of prison from punishment to rehabilitation. This applies to everyone.

America has some of the worst recidivism rates in the developed world. Meanwhile the Nordic countries have the best.
It's pretty clear that a rehabilitation mindset is fundamentally better than a punishment/revenge mindset.

There's actually research that suggests it's not pretty clear

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BeyondWalls posted...

We all looked at the Google map, CJS. All the fast food joints were on the same street. And you're assuming the person who brought the food in left from the police station. It could have been brought in by a patrol car on the way back in.

Wouldn't even talk to him or Kastrada about it, they need to just give that one up

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I considered the first terminator a sci-fi horror film

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BeyondWalls posted...

I've defended the Burger King thing on multiple occasions, but this is complete BULLSHIT. This dude isn't even a high profile murder suspect. He's probably going to get charged with trespassing. Let his dumbass eat what everyone else is eating.

Should a Jewish or Islamic criminal be fed BLTs?

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