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mustang90 posted...

None of this happened.

Maybe, maybe not. But if he's for real, he needs to call 911.

_Goggalor_ posted...

I don't have a car. Or money for a cab. Or the bus. Or any friends.

911. I had to use it once too for something similar.
911.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

Seek help, TC. Seriously.

Yeah man, if you're going beyond the limit, please just drive yourself to the ER.

_Goggalor_ posted...

Cocytus posted...

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SusanGreenEyes posted...

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SusanGreenEyes posted...

Why would you trash your apartment when you will just have to clean it later?
You're better off killing things in a video game.

I'm not doing shit later.

If you feel like cleaning why don't you just clean your apartment when you get mad then?

What makes you think I feel like cleaning? Trust me, I'm not cleaning up anything.

Are you going to be okay?

No idea

Do you think you maybe need to go to the ER?

_Goggalor_ posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

Why would you trash your apartment when you will just have to clean it later?
You're better off killing things in a video game.

I'm not doing shit later.

If you feel like cleaning why don't you just clean your apartment when you get mad then?

What makes you think I feel like cleaning? Trust me, I'm not cleaning up anything.

Are you going to be okay?

_Goggalor_ posted...

Well, I was discharged from the hospital yesterday with what was diagnosed as SIRS and I woke up this morning with such bad diahreea I went in my boxers. My chest hurts, i have pancreatic pain, Yet no one will tell me if I have anything wrong with me. So my anxiety is at 100 and I hate everyone.

The anxiety might be escalating your perceived pain. Do you have anxiety meds? Do you see a therapist?

_Goggalor_ posted...

Anyone want a video tour of what happens when anxiety and health problems go unresolved?

Yes

SquantoZ posted...

Best way to use your switch is by throwing it in the trash

@bluezero

lol

SSJCAT posted...

Nice man feel free to add me:

Thanks!

CelestialVoices posted...

woot

you should also get mario odyssey

enjoy your game, hope you have a great time

Thanks!

I should mention I also have a $15 coupon for GameStop.

Makeveli_lives posted...

Cocytus posted...

Well every Game stop anyway, I wanna buy it there to get the points.And thanks for the advice on

Do you not have gamers club unlocked?

What be this gamers club?

Cocytus posted...

Makeveli_lives posted...

Cocytus posted...

I want to get Odyssey. Every store in Houston but one is out of MK8.

Best buy?

Also avoid xenoblade 2 unless you loved the first one. It's a good game that isn't fun to play, this video explains:

Well every Game stop anyway, I wanna buy it there to get the points.And thanks for the advice on

advice on Xenoblades

Makeveli_lives posted...

Cocytus posted...

I want to get Odyssey. Every store in Houston but one is out of MK8.

Best buy?

Also avoid xenoblade 2 unless you loved the first one. It's a good game that isn't fun to play, this video explains:

Well every Game stop anyway, I wanna buy it there to get the points.And thanks for the advice on

I want to get Odyssey. Every store in Houston but one is out of MK8.

And BotW.

What should I do?

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice

I thought this was PC Faqs!

https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/heres-the-most-popular-pc-hardware-among-steam-use/2900-1734/10/

It's a small slide show. So I posted the final results page. Just hit "previous" to check out the specs in detail. A lot of them may surprise you.
And God damn, what happened to AMD? Did they just give up?

Why shouldn't they. They're simply quoting the President.

Eventually it does. You see all you married friends problems and you;re like, "Whoooooo, thank God it wasn't me". You just got to give it time. When you hit 40, you'll see the difference very well.

Delightful!

Until you learn what she did.

It's so sad that our kids in school have to grow up with this President. They get two different messages: study, be nice, stay out of trouble, mind what you say to people, etc. Then you got Trump doing the exact opposite on a daily basis. A President is supposed to be a model for kids, not the antithetical model. How can you tells your kids to do right while Trump is perpetually rewarded for deplorable behavior? Used to tell your kids that the President deserves respect and someone you could look up to. Not no mo.

Doom_Art posted...

Cocytus posted...

but this was not the language used

He's aware there were witnesses right

Like congressmen and senators in the meeting

He don't believe in witnesses.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/donald-trump-tweet-daca-rejection/index.html

Yeah, can't you guys tell the difference between "tough language" vs. vulgar, demeaning, racist hate speech? Geesh.

"President Donald Trump on Friday denied describing certain nations as "shithole countries" during a meeting in which he rejected a bipartisan deal on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

"The language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made - a big setback for DACA!" Trump tweeted.
White House spokesperson Raj Shah did not deny the "shithole" remark on Thursday evening, but instead said in a statement that Trump "is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation."

DACA protects hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children from deportation.

Trump on Thursday rejected a pitch from a bipartisan team of senators on a compromise immigration deal to protect DACA participants while increasing border security.

"Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?" Trump told senators in the Oval Office, according to a source briefed on the meeting.
The Washington Post first reported on Trump's comments.

Trump's denial came among a series of other tweets in which he defended his immigration stance.
"The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime.....," Trump tweeted.He continued: "....countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund....

"....Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten 'shutdown,' but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

He also said: "Sadly, Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal, for DACA. Take care of our Military, and our Country, FIRST!"
The tweets suggest that Trump is interested in a system that would only accept individuals from certain countries and backgrounds in exchange for a DACA deal -- as well as a much more substantial border investment than one year of funding and technology upgrades the lawmakers had presented.

Democrats have made clear they would not consider some of the suggestions and the demands risk exacerbating already tense talks as both sides are entrenched in negotiating position.

While some Republicans hope to gain leverage by dragging out negotiations and increase the risk that DACA recipients could lose status and even be deported, advocates have made clear to Democrats they should feel empowered to reject a deal that benefits DACA immigrants at the expense of scores of others and their families."

Awesome! Where you coming from? What do want to get to? What's your method? I too lost a bunch of weight, thank God. I went from 405 to 322 in about a year and a half. I want to get below 300.

GiftedACIII posted...

TheGrindery posted...

Rika_Furude posted...

Anyone saying they would choose for the 5 people to die cant be serious, they must be trolling

In the Mind Field episode where they actually run this experiment, 5 out of 7 didn't switch it. Each have various answers and justifications for it but you could tell they froze in the moment.

One of the two who did choose the many over the few ended up in tears in the interview after.

We aren't always the way we want to be when the heat is on.

Yeah, it really just stems to what I said earlier. It's an intense situation that you can't really fault someone for doing during the heat of the moment.

There's a few people here who don't get that perspective though.

There was another study too, and the results were marginally in favor with pulling the switch...until they changed the scenario just a little to say what if the lone person on the other track were someone you loved, parent, friend, child, family member, etc. Suddenly half of the ones who said yes were very eager to change their answer. Suddenly quantity didn't matter anymore. You're right, we ain't always who we think we are especially in tense situations.

F1areaGaman posted...

In this situation I think I would let the event transpire. As horrible as that sounds, I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and I have no right to decide life like that.

I agree

Usually.

KingCrabCake posted...

Cocytus posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Cocytus posted...

I'm choosing to not intervene and willfully kill someone. Because you didn't stop the train doesn't mean that it's your fault that they got killed. Somebody has a heart attack right in front of you and you don't know cpr or fail to resuscitate the person... OH NO I'm goin' to jail. Yeah right.

Nope youre willing to let 5 people die thus you're willing to kill 5.

You're literally wrong

You can think that. It doesn't sound like I'll change your mind. 40% of respondents say they wouldn't either. I could ask you if you understand the concept of the legal definition of a duty to act, but I don't think that will change your mind either.

And 60% say they would

60 > 40

Lmfao

You're ignoring a significant number. I think you're trolling at this point.

KingCrabCake posted...

Cocytus posted...

I'm choosing to not intervene and willfully kill someone. Because you didn't stop the train doesn't mean that it's your fault that they got killed. Somebody has a heart attack right in front of you and you don't know cpr or fail to resuscitate the person... OH NO I'm goin' to jail. Yeah right.

Nope youre willing to let 5 people die thus you're willing to kill 5.

You're literally wrong

You can think that. It doesn't sound like I'll change your mind. 40% of respondents say they wouldn't either. I could ask you if you understand the concept of the legal definition of a duty to act, but I don't think that will change your mind either.

KingCrabCake posted...

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TheGrindery posted...

Cocytus posted...

TheGrindery posted...

Nope. Rush is right. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Ok, so that's the choice. You do nothing. It's a valid choice. What's your objection?

It leads to more loss than taking action.

Taking action means you actively, purposefully kill someone when the train was already bound to it's fate.

No 5 people being tied down isnt fate...and maybe fate had me there to save five mives.

Taking no action means you purposefully allowed 5 people to get killed

I get it, you're willing to kill the other guy.

And you're willing to kill 5 guys

I'm choosing to not intervene and willfully kill someone. Because you didn't stop the train doesn't mean that it's your fault that they got killed. Somebody has a heart attack right in front of you and you don't know cpr or fail to resuscitate the person... OH NO I'm goin' to jail. Yeah right.

KingCrabCake posted...

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TheGrindery posted...

Cocytus posted...

TheGrindery posted...

Nope. Rush is right. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Ok, so that's the choice. You do nothing. It's a valid choice. What's your objection?

It leads to more loss than taking action.

Taking action means you actively, purposefully kill someone when the train was already bound to it's fate.

No 5 people being tied down isnt fate...and maybe fate had me there to save five mives.

Taking no action means you purposefully allowed 5 people to get killed

I get it, you're willing to kill the other guy.

TheGrindery posted...

Cocytus posted...

TheGrindery posted...

Nope. Rush is right. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Ok, so that's the choice. You do nothing. It's a valid choice. What's your objection?

It leads to more loss than taking action.

Taking action means you actively, purposefully kill someone when the train was already bound to it's fate.

TheGrindery posted...

Nope. Rush is right. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Ok, so that's the choice. You do nothing. It's a valid choice. What's your objection?

Paragon21XX posted...

Screw that. I'm going to time it such that the train ends up multi-track drifting thereby killing all six.

Edit: Illustration added.

Hehehe, like in Die Hard 3. lol

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

Did you just start playing Prey? Because this is a question they ask you at the start of the game along with the pushing the fat guy one.

Dang you're psychic. I got Prey the other day! Played a couple hours.

KingCrabCake posted...

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GiftedACIII posted...

When 5 people saved is a better outcome than 1 if there is no "bloodying your hands"

The end doesn't justify the means. You pull that switch and you just killed someone. There's no going around that. Do nothing then you can blame God.

And you dont pull the switch and you kill 5

No, a train killed them. I did not do anything.

Not doing something is doing something.

I appreciate that perspective, but really not doing something is not doing something.

pojr posted...

update

the seller emailed me and told me he already sold it

seriously?

Don't worry about it. Sounds like you got off the hook from getting ripped off. Mother fucker would probably send you a brick.

Are you buying it from someone off the street? That's too low for an S8 in good to very good condition.

She would clobber him.

KingCrabCake posted...

Cocytus posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

When 5 people saved is a better outcome than 1 if there is no "bloodying your hands"

The end doesn't justify the means. You pull that switch and you just killed someone. There's no going around that. Do nothing then you can blame God.

And you dont pull the switch and you kill 5

No, a train killed them. I did not do anything.

GiftedACIII posted...

Cocytus posted...

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Cocytus posted...

Well there you switched the scenario to involve first responders who have an obligation in said scenario. So it's not exactly the same thing as a regular citizen coming upon the original scenario. and I take your point about the other five families, it wouldn't be easy, but if you tell the truth, that's all you can do. You can illustrate your point of view. You could ask what if one of their family members was the single one on the track. There ain't no easy way to put it, but if you walk on by, you don't have to explain anything to anybody, because what happened is an out of control train was let loose and killed five people. Insert yourself into it, then you got some explaining to do. I doubt anyone will ask you why didn't you switch tracks and just kill that one person.

Ok, replace the scenario with some average joe fighting against a corrupt dictator government then. In a moral situation like this, it's less about the character involved but the actual principle.
And if you can do that to the 5 families I don't see how you can't say that to the one family that you were just trying to save as much people as possible? Or ask them what if one of their family members were one of the 5 people on the track (which is statistically more likely)
At the end of the day, the only aspect that "dirtying your hands" does only applies to you. And I think it's more moral to sacrifice your own sleepless nights to save more people.

Well I do concede that we understand the same values here, what's at stake, what makes more sense. even I say it makes more sense to pull the switch and save the five, but I can't get over my hand pulling the trigger on one, especially in a situation I didn't create and mostly don't know about (like why they're like that on the tracks in the first place). And hell, when I'm sitting alone just thinking about it all nice and cozy at home, I admit it's easier to say I'd leave it alone. But I admit, if it were real, Heaven knows what I would do. The mind says one thing, the heart says another. And as far as dirtying hands, I mean, that's a real thing you would have to live with. You will be responsible for that person's death. Maybe you might not even be able to live with the guilt.

Yes, like I've said, I don't fault anyone for choosing to not pull the switch. I just think it's less moral but it's an understandable action to take. Sacrificing yourself to save someone else is also more moral but it's perfectly understandable (and expected) for people to prefer not dying.

Good talk. Thank you.

faizan_faizan posted...

Cocytus posted...

faizan_faizan posted...

I think the same applies here. The family of those 5 people could press charges and we could still be arrested.

They can't press charges if you didn't have a duty to act. Besides, they'd have to prove you knew what to do. That would be a big uphill battle for them.

You did have a duty to act, you could've saved those 5 people but you didn't choose to. It was a conscious that could be used against you in court.

You don't have to intervene in something that ain't your business. This isn't a hard concept to understand. No one will be looking for you to explain either way. As a private citizen, you do not have a duty to act. You may think it's shitty of someone not to, but as a private citizen, you can walk on by. No one can even prove you knew what was happening or what to do. Besides, you're not the first person they're going to look at. The railroad will have some explaining to do first.

Xelltrix posted...

Cocytus posted...

Stranger Tides is decent. It's better than the second and third one.

No effin way.

Pfft, whatevs.

fenderbender321 posted...

The track with 1 person on it has a better chance of becoming 100% clear of people than the track with 5 people on it (everything else equal), simply due to the numbers. I would constantly be holding out hope that everyone will escape without getting hit, and obviously the track with just 1 person on it has a better chance of that occurring.

Interesting perspective.