Lurker > Biscotti

be your own trebor

(i'll be genuinely shocked if anyone gets that reference)

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to fuck a chicken

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Dakimakura posted...

Looks like over inflated Anne Hathaway.

perfect.

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if they hadn't died out, mammals wouldn't have come to dominate the planet.

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go vols!

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WesternMedia posted...

Are you drinking right now, Biscotti? You're mixing things up so I think you should sober up first mate.

@WesternMedia

et tu brutus?


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COVxy posted...

Conflict, who you were just replying to, isn't an alt as far as I know, and wasn't involved in this until like the last page. I assume you're thinking of the other poster earlier. You are confused.

you are correct.

all my points stand, however.


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COVxy posted...

You've got some posters mixed up here.

there is you, and someone's alt.

could just be you, on two accounts.

it's just fucking sad and weird at this point.

do you genuinely understand human trauma? abuse, rape, violence?

have you ever sat with victims, and families?

come the fuck on dude; i will gladly kneel to you, if you will glady kneel to these people.

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Conflict posted...

I love how when you're getting thrashed in debate and you can't support your argument, you resort to accusing the opposition of being pedophile apologists or in pro-pedophile discords. I seriously worry for anyone who has the misfortune of being in your care

debate on gfaqs. sure.

this is where all the high level public protection debates take place.

between me, and you two guys.

ffs give us all your peed defence, if you can. holy shit.

for a guy with a purported doctorate in neuro-science, and two degrees in psychology, your ego seems to overwhelm your entire education.

treatment vs risk management. teach me, yoda.

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COVxy posted...

Stay away from patients my dude, until you stop interpreting your own intuition as evidence at least.

Seriously, not trying to get under your skin or anything. Just try to consider what the purpose of your job is.

Elden Ring trailer dropped.

This is my last post.

I'm way too happy for CE right now.

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Emeraldious posted...

Did he ever answer why paedos getting help makes them more likely to continue offending?

yes.

but, as i said, i'm not here to argue the treatment of peeds on gfaqs, over and over again.

the aplogists have not presented one single piece of counter-evidence that active treatment interventions prevent offending. not one.

and these are two dudes on the internet; for all i know they are in a pro-peed discord together, i have no idea, but i've worked alongside LEOs in public protection etc, though i have not treated sex offenders (due to many reasons stated).

i have better uses of my time right now, than this; i have never been interested in 'winning' an internet argument.

you can make your own mind up.


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Badmotorfinger posted...

Nobody cares about your "term papers and credentials" lmao. You are living proof (entertaining the possibility that you're not lying) that you can work in healthcare and have no idea what you're talking about. There's no shortage of people like you in the industry.

The tactic of using your occupation as a shield only works on idiots like Kazi1212/David1988 who don't really have anything to offer or contribute in any topic anyway

i have no idea who those people are, or who your main account is.

i've been attacked in this thread, personally and professionally.

it's simply not worth it for peed apologists.

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Badmotorfinger posted...

Lol and just like that you never saw those two again

no, i'm just done passing my term papers and credentials to a couple of guys on the internet.

especially when one of them is an alt.

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David1988 posted...

$10 says he will find someway to criticize why thats not a valid study or doesnt reference what youre talking about

of course.

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COVxy posted...

Yes, if you are making evidence based claims, there must be a study that drew that conclusion. If you don't have a study that drew that conclusion, you are not making evidence based claims.

how about this one:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/088626099014012001

'Consistent with findings in other areas of clinical practice, it was predicted that good treatment behavior (in terms of in-session behavior, homework quality, and global ratings of motivation and change achieved) would be associated with parole success and lower recidivism in a sample of 283 sex offenders. This prediction was not supported: Good treatment behavior was unrelated to parole failure or general recidivism, and it was associated with higher serious recidivism (a new violent or sexual offense) after an average time at risk of 32 months. Further exploration revealed that men who scored higher in psychopathy and better in treatment behavior were the most likely to reoffend. These results could have important implications for risk management and treatment planning.

if you want to split hairs about psychopaths, rapists, and peadophiles, go ahead.

i've now linked one general summary article, and one scholarly.

your turn.

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Badmotorfinger posted...

Don't need to.

We have several people here working in healthcare that show that they know what they're talking about through discourse like DarkRoast without having to tell you what their occupation is

You made a baseless and legitimately dangerous statement and you're unwilling to cite it. Just going "bUt I wOrKeD iN mEnTaL hEaLtH fOr 24 YeArS" isn't the shield you think it is.

whatever.

i'm not dangerous; sex offenders are.

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COVxy posted...

I don't see what needs to be accomplished through DMs. I'm just looking for a single citation to back the evidence based conclusion that pedophiles are more likely to offend after recieving treatment.

you and i both know there is not a 'single citation'; here is a decent article about how mental health professionals can get pulled in by psychopaths and sex offenders;

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/oak-ridge-st-thomas-psychiatric-treatment

group treatment was started in the 1970s, and follow-up revealed higher rates of offending. i might try to dig out the exact study but it's 1.55am in my timezone.

but this was a surprise to early therapists and researchers, just as 'expresed emotion' was to treatments of schizophrenia in family settings.

this is what an evidence-base is, reviewing what we know, and sometimes this goes against what we might expect.

therapists want to do good; it's a shock when a given clinical population throw that back.


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Badmotorfinger posted...

Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager

No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder

I'm dying to know.

Badmotorfinger posted...

Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager

No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder

I'm dying to know.

i help people manage those conditions, and sometims the results can be life-changing; even the best evidence base for depression has a halo effect for around 24-months, which is not often made well known, but there it is.

even then, you have to hold onto your successes in this field, because there will be plenty of heart-break too (i've had 3 colleagues commit suicide).

you and covy have yet to state what you do for a living btw.

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COVxy posted...

Okay, so you agree that the distinction was bullshit, good.

Now, where's that evidence that pedophiles are more likely to offend after treatment? Given you don't do anything non evidence-based, I assume there's some paper that you can reference that's looked at this.

would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation?

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Badmotorfinger posted...

Based on what

Do you have any data supporting the idea that pedophiles are untreatable?

You don't. And so little of them even attempt to get help because of how powerful the stigma is

This is why it's dangerous for people this airheaded to be working in mental health

and your job is what?

very first google hit:

'General. There is no evidence that pedophilia can be cured. Instead, most therapies focus on helping the pedophile refrain from acting on their desires. Some therapies do attempt to cure pedophilia, but there are no studies showing that they result in a long-term change in sexual preference.'

it's not rocket science folks.

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COVxy posted...

Produce the citation then. And admit that your illness vs disorder thing was completely adhoc and not any type of real distinction. Simple as that.

it was a very simple way to explain the difference between treatability vs not treatable, , to a lay audience on an internet forum.

i'm not here to quote every sub-set of the DSM-IV (or V), or the ICD-10.

if you want to attempt to treat psychopaths and peadophiles, go ahead. i wish you luck; everyone else has failed.

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COVxy posted...

The mental health industry is plagued with all sorts of pseudoscientific practitioners because there's lax regulation. I care about this a lot. It's fucked up to swindle the mentally unwell.

that's quite the leap there.

i'm fully regulated and accountable.

i adhere to the available evidence-base in everything i do. i take nothing on intution or supposition.

shit, i said i was out!

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Lokison posted...

This has literally dissolved into a pissing contest.

ikr? imma dip out; was not my intention.

but peeds can't be cured.

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COVxy posted...

Lmao, i also have a PhD in neuroscience.

where is your clinical resume? you've not mentioned one.

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Badmotorfinger posted...

You've worked in mental health for 24 years yet you're making baseless statements about a group of people supported with no data

And basically arguing that pedophiles shouldn't get help

Covxy's right, I'm worried for anyone who has the misfortune of being in your care.

i get very good results. just not with peeds, because no-one does.

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COVxy posted...

There's no such thing as an illness vs a disorder distinction, period. You made that up out of thin air. Just like you did the evidence about pedophiles becoming more likely to offend after therapy.

google is your friend. i'm not writing your thesis for you.

or you wanna edumacate the good folks of gfaqs about peed therapy that works? i'll wait.

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Lokison posted...

I got $50 on Biscotti

tbh undergrad and masters degrees in psychology are not that employable; most of the brightest grab intern or low paid research jobs, and try to hook into a PhD programme.

I meet these types all the time.

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COVxy posted...

The distinction between "illness" and "disorder"? Literally doesn't exist. The most treatable mental health issues are disorders, because that's just what mental health diagnoses are called, via the DSM.

There are personality disorders, such as psychopathy that are known to have less success in therapeutic or drug therapy, yes.

But whatever distinction you made in that post is idiosyncratic and not real.

And then you quoted "evidence", which either doesn't exist or very likely means something different than how you're interpreting it.

You are bullshitting all over this topic and then claiming expertise. Fuck off with the "oh idk why i deserve such condescension"

did you miss where i said 'broadly speaking'? i said it twice. because i'm not posting here for peer review. i'm trying to make some of this undestanable for the average dude/dudette.

i also didn't accuse you of being condescending; i actually think you have very little direct clinical experience.

i'm kinda done with you being triggered, mr text book tiger.

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COVxy posted...

That's terrifying for anyone who is in your care.

and thanks for the ad hominem. not sure what i did to deserve that. my clients are pretty happy, on the whole.

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COVxy posted...

Your uncle ted who knows nothing about mental health but is very concerned about the level of flouride in the water can work in mental health for decades. There's many unskilled jobs and unqualified people in the industry, as it turns out.

7 years of post grad my friend; 7 years; in direct delivery of therapy for the last 11.

like i said, you do you.

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The Wheelman1 posted...

The internet in general has a pedophilia problem. Not just here. There are people on the net that worship underage children.

yes.

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COVxy posted...

I'm not confused. You're bullshitting.

dude i've worked in mental health for 24 years; but you do you eh?

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anyone with massive nuts.

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COVxy posted...

This seems...unlikely.

people get confused by the labels illness vs disorder; broadly speaking illnesses have some kind of treatment, and broadly speaking disorders do not, or at least any kind of robust evidence base, eg. psychopathy, peed.

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Scotty_Rogers posted...

The cure to any mental problem is to think for yourself. Make your own meanings, because life is logically meaningless.

sure buddy, existentialism is a cure for sexually deviancy. got it.

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Scotty_Rogers posted...

There is a cure; think for yourself instead of buying into what other people say. Truth is, everything is logically pointless; there are no absolutes. Life only has meaning because we give it meaning.

Everything in society is ultimately just a construct. What is the actual, objective difference between a man and a woman? Or a child and an adult? Or a human and an animal? Or law and crime? Think logically, and you'll find plenty of gray areas, overlaps and anomalies in any code. No one is logically more correct than anyone else. It's all logically arbitrary.

So, really, if you want to stop being this or that, just tell yourself you're not it, condition yourself to think so and you'll be good. Applies to anything, really; just think whatever you want, and you can certainly do so while following society's arbitrary rules.

Citation needed

you first, for 'the cure'.

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Scotty_Rogers posted...

Pedophilia is wrong, and I don't condone it, but I think it's too vilified in society; let's get those people help instead of making them out to be devils. Child molestation deserves all the condemnation it gets, though.

the is no evidence-based 'cure', it doesn't exist. the evidence base is actually the opposite ie. offenders offered therapy have higher offending rates. they simply learn to lie more effectively, and manipulate.

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VioletMassacre posted...

I only see name calling and misunderstandings.

naive.

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yes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1wwnN0CF0

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spikethedevil posted...

So will they finally have offline ai bots in the multiplayer like COD has had since Black Ops 1?

yes.

also, base xbox/ps4 will run the game, but on smaller maps.

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DomingoGerman posted...

So no gameplay footage

Cool

sunday.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

hopefully this one is better, especially now that it's back to modern times. and hopefully crossplay as well, only reason i play warzone is cuz my buddy on ps4/5 can play since ive been too lazy to try and score a ps5

xplay confirmed, but doubts that it will run on ps4/xbox.


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The russians come to the UK and poison people; first time i've heard of a new weapon.

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Geno4LoveGeno4L posted...

Is your age range different just for a hook up? We had some people at college discussing it. It seems like for serious relationships they prefer close to their age, but for a hook up, they would be reading to have a thing with people older.

tucked up in bed with a good book?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paTW3wOyIYw

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her ears are nice too


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this lady will give you strong and loving children

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