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Made on 2/22/2002 2:27

What does this even mean?

My head says yes but my heart says no.

But in all seriousness this is 100% about where you grew up. Where I grew up (Aurora, Colorado) East Asians did tend to hang out together at the schools I went to and Indian people weren't a part of that group. Koreans, Chinese, and Vietnamese were the 'Asians'.

In the US we have basically swapped out "oriental" for "Asian" and Indians weren't considered "oriental" even when that term was common is what I would guess is the reason. The real reason behind the difference between what "Asian" means comes from the fact that we are lumping like 60% of the world's population together and there are massive ethnic differences between people that live on that continent.

When "Asia" was originally invented as a term for a place it basically meant everything across the Aegean sea to the East of Greece.

How can you justify this kind of protest at a $50,000+ a year private university?

This kids are mostly either rich or on some affirmative action scholarship (economic or race based). They literally said "whose university, our university". No it fucking isn't. This is a rich kids private school. That is definitively what Duke is and always will be.

Blame our fucked up medical system. You say "well you better stay" and then the hospital bills a thousand dollars or more for a single night sleeping in a bed.

Eh....

I like FFXII but the story really does kind of fall off as you get further in and the combat stops feeling as cool. The ability to make it move faster in Zodiac Age is a godsend but it was hard for me to stay interested in the game as I got deeper into it.

Ajenla posted...

With how dumb some of these guys are I find the "smarts" part hard to believe. If you said medical, I'd be like yeah okay, but intillegence? That's just baffling.

My point is that the ASVAB score required to go into Army intelligence is as high as it is for nearly every job in the Air Force. I wouldn't claim that having a high IQ actually makes someone wise it just means they were successfully able to complete a decent number of Math and logic problems and have a fairly wide vocabulary.

As for "these guys" being dumb. You sound stupid labeling tens of millions of your fellow citizens that served in the military stupid because you encountered or heard about a few stupid individuals.

Spooking posted...

Brains join the Air Force or Navy while other folks generally join the Marines or Army. If you want to stay close to home while also benefiting from the military, you join the National Guard.

On average, yes, but there are brainy jobs in the Army as well (intelligence, medics, etc).

As for the standards being lowered. I don't doubt they will be if we are trying to recruit more people. Educational standards are a moving target. After the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts wound down and the Army downsized and they basically stopped taking people with GEDs regardless of their test scores as an example.

The bigger thing narrowing the pool of applicants these days in the obesity rate and a wide assortment of medical problems that are being diagnosed in young people these days that either weren't an issue in previous times or doctors have been getting better at catching.

What is the point in even posting this if you aren't going to give some details? Did you knock a bunch of shit over? Did you drink the entire mini-bar? Did you forget to check out? Did you think you were getting some kind of discount then they charged you full price?

Balrog0 posted...

huh, they do franchise apparently

my mistake

It isn't franchising in the way you would imagine though. You can become the "franchise owner" of a Chic Fil A for less than $10,000 while becoming a McDonalds franchise owner costs something like $750,000.

Chic Fil A builds the store and gets a much higher portion of the profits (50%). Its practically like winning the lottery for people that manage to get a Chic Fil A franchise. But the big catch is their approval process basically requires that someone be a person of upright morals (a fundamentalist Christian without debts or vices).

https://today.yougov.com/news/2013/09/16/poll-results-jury-duty/

I feel like the basic argument for a jury is this. You don't want to be on a jury. I don't want to be on a jury. But if you are on trial in a what if scenario you would rather that a Judge AND jury be there as a stop gap for you being wrongly convicted which is how our system works. A judge can throw out guilt but not innocence. If your peers. The general populace. Aren't wiling to find you guilty then you can't be found guilty. Plenty of people do get found guilty but this is your stop-gap for unjust laws. Your last defense.

Re-iNcarnated posted...

Atralis posted...

Re-iNcarnated posted...

Atralis posted...

Its a fantastic card at that price but I would be a bit hesitant getting it on Ebay.

Why? What do you know my dude?

Its just a big purchase and its a risky purchase in the sense that its a very complex piece of machinery. If the card is truly new and in the correct packaging and most importantly still holds the manufacturers warranty then that is a great deal but you really want to trust the source on this one and know that you have a warranty backing you up with any graphics card purchase.

Well said, that's all i needed know really.

I'll note that this isn't even an issue of observable damage. I had an EVGA GTX 970 that started showing graphical artifacts (weird red lines appearing on stuff in a lot of games). I got in touch with EVGA and they told me it was a known defect with the card and I returned it for a new one about 5 months after I got it. There is a reason that the warranties are so generous with the big card manufacturers. Graphics card can and do fail for reasons you can't eyeball on the manufacturing floor or when you receive the card in the mail.

Re-iNcarnated posted...

Atralis posted...

Its a fantastic card at that price but I would be a bit hesitant getting it on Ebay.

Why? What do you know my dude?

Its just a big purchase and its a risky purchase in the sense that its a very complex piece of machinery. If the card is truly new and in the correct packaging and most importantly still holds the manufacturers warranty then that is a great deal but you really want to trust the source on this one and know that you have a warranty backing you up with any graphics card purchase.

Its a fantastic card at that price but I would be a bit hesitant getting it on Ebay.

Don't we all?

Burgess posted...

What's this we horseshit.

Whorseshitshire sauce.

But seriously though "we" did not call them freedom fries. It was a political stunt and it made the papers but your average national chain (BK, McDonalds, Wendys, Applebees, etc) was stilling calling them french fries.

It really depends on the situation. Being drunk takes the filter off but that doesn't mean that the filterless person is their true self.

Think of a domestic situation. The lady says "I just don't understand why you can't pick the laundry up off the floor". The sober you would say "oops. You know how forgetful I am." which may be true and certainly is the right thing to say. The shit faced drunk you says "because I don't give a single fuck that my coat is on the floor. What is going to happen between now and tomorrow morning that makes it necessary for me to put this coat in the closet? Why do you fucking care!?"

hockeybub89 posted...

Atralis posted...

I don't know 100% what happened in this situation but I'm sure you would agree that businesses like restaurants and cafes should have the right to restrict their space to paying customers.

And Starbucks has given up that right outside of very busy periods by making it policy to be a hangout spot. You have to enforce policies equally. Businesses do not have the right to kick out anyone for any reason.

I get what you are saying but it is difficult to legislate something like that. How do you define "hangout spot" how do you define "busy period".

With discrimination law you can legislate around something binary like someone being refused service. Either they took your order and cash and provided you with food or they refused to. But when you start bringing in things like whether or not this particular Starbucks was a "hangout spot" and whether or not this was a "busy period" you are in muddy waters.

hockeybub89 posted...

Atralis posted...

This seems like the kind of thing where Starbucks acted within the letter of the law but they should have exercised better judgement.

I can't just randomly decide one day that one customer at work is trespassing while no one else is. That doesn't make it so. That's not how things work.

That would be like calling the cops on someone for theft because they picked up an item. Everyone picks up items. You'd have to prove that this person was truly intending to steal and that you weren't just making up policy or ignoring policy because you didn't like that person for some reason.

I don't know 100% what happened in this situation but I'm sure you would agree that businesses like restaurants and cafes should have the right to restrict their space to paying customers.

The time limit isn't codified for obvious reasons. One business may set a time limit for someone ordering something at 10 minutes before they ask them to leave, another may set it at an hour, another may just let people hang around as long as they want. But legally the line is drawn when a business owner requests someone to leave and they refuse. Then it becomes trespassing.

"Run".

This seems like the kind of thing where Starbucks acted within the letter of the law but they should have exercised better judgement.

glitteringfairy posted...

They got lit the fuck up by the sound of it. Damn.

It didn't cause an incident because the Russian government basically disavowed them and said 'no Russian service members died in this incident'.

glitteringfairy posted...

Atralis posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

@glitteringfairy posted...

China has just stated they will support Russia against the US

Can I see a source? Not that I don't believe you, I just couldn't find anything when searching this.

My bad. What I read was posted on April 5th, before the airstrike. On a side note, there is a yahoo uk&ireland article saying 200 Russian troops were killed in the airstrikes.

The '200 russians killed' thing is from back in February. They were mercenaries that neglected to tell the US or Russian governments what they were doing and got blown up when they came too close to US special forces.

Oh dang that's crazy. What were they doing there?

The Russians allow/encourage mercenaries to go to Syria to fight for the Assad regime. The US supports a group of mostly Kurdish rebels and the border between them and Assad's forces is currently the Eurphates river. The mercenary group crossed to the wrong side of the river to try and seize a position probably not realizing there were US forces nearby. The US bombed the shit out of them and they retreated.

http://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073


The man explains that American forces used artillery and helicopter gunships to repel the assault. They were all shelling the holy **** out of it, and our guys didnt have anything besides the assault rifles. Nothing at all, Im not even talking about shoulder-fired SAMs or anything like that. They tore us to pieces, put us through hell, he says.

The speaker is also critical of the Russian governments response to the incident, saying, They beat our asses like we were little pieces of ****...but our ****ing government will go in reverse now, and nobody will respond or anything and nobody will punish anyone for this.

My guys just called me, they are sitting there drinking, many are MIA, its a total ****up, another humiliation.... Nobody gives a **** about us.

In a second clip, a man explains that the battle quickly descended into a massacre as the Russians lost all armored support. Out of all vehicles only one tank survived and one BRDM (Armored Reconnaissance Vehicle) after the attack, all other BRDMs and tanks were destroyed in the first minutes of the fight, right away.

glitteringfairy posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

@glitteringfairy posted...

China has just stated they will support Russia against the US

Can I see a source? Not that I don't believe you, I just couldn't find anything when searching this.

My bad. What I read was posted on April 5th, before the airstrike. On a side note, there is a yahoo uk&ireland article saying 200 Russian troops were killed in the airstrikes.

The '200 russians killed' thing is from back in February. They were mercenaries that neglected to tell the US or Russian governments what they were doing and got blown up when they came too close to US special forces.

Bat178 posted...

Didn't they try to do this with Korea too earlier last year, which turned out to be a fat load of nothing?

Late last year the US had three aircraft carrier battle groups near North Korea at the same time which actually was noteworthy.

One aircraft carrier carries a lot of firepower but there isn't anything noteworthy about the US having one in the Eastern Med or the Persian Gulf. When the Iraq war kicked off the US had six carriers on the scene along with a massive buildup of Army and Airforce around the country.

Calm down.

Kombucha posted...

every now and then i see people from colorado complaining about how denver has gone downhill

is there really any truth to that iyo

Home prices have got a lot more expensive in the past 10 years that is the usual gripe I hear here.

Kaiganeer posted...

what are coloradan things to do

That is the beauty of it though. We have everything. If you want to do mountain things you can go west and ski and snowboard and hike and generally do all the wild things in the mountains. If you want to go out west to be in 'the heartland' of America and live in the cornfields and the ranching lands that is eastern Colorado. If you want to live in the ultra urban city with clubs, concerts, museums, and anything else you would associate with big city life that is Denver. If you want to live in a more conservative and right wingy area with all the pros I listed without the politics of hippy nature folk that is Colorado Springs. If you want to live in San Francisco without living in San Francisco that is Boulder.

We have everything.

I have spent most of my childhood/adulthood here. Age 7-20 and age 25-31.

What I like.

1. A lotta sunshine.
2. Not many bugs/pests. Its dry and there is a yearly freeze to exterminate all but the hardiest pests. At the the same time most of the year it is great weather wise. The colds are cold enough to exterminate the roaches and mosquitoes I saw en masse is more tropical places. I see more Prairie Dogs than large insects here. And prairie dogs are annoying when you twist your ankle stepping in a hole but they are also just cute little barking rodents.



3. Generally good peoples- I feel like people in this part of the country are generally friendly. When I'm driving out east visting my grandmother near Philidelphia I feel like people are a bit nastier as drivers and in general just because they are crunched into a small area. When I lived in the deep South there was that friendly Southern vibe but I get that the confederate flags waving around and the general poverty could seem unwelcoming to people.

4. Prosperity- We are winners in Colorado. Healthy, wealthy, just generally better than most people *brushes the haters off and directs them to the statistics.

I mean it is honestly more that we draw in the best than produce the best but what is the difference in terms of who is your neighbor? We are the fittest state in the country and close to being the most educated. We live in a land with vast space to grow and beautiful scenery and we pretty damn close to the middle of the country so we are in a decent reach of both east and west and though all states have issues with roads and air traffic Colorado does better than most because we are young. Basically nothing in this state existed when most of the infrastructure in the North east and Cali was built so everything here is newer by default.

Literally the stupidest dog breed that exists by the way.

Their slender and striking skull shape actually goes along with their brain being squished turning them into an entire breed of confoundingly stupid dogs. Google it.

How about we wait and celebrate this kid for his actual accomplishments rather than celebrating the fact that affirmative action still exists in the 21rst century.

The valedictorian at my high school had a perfect SAT score and perfect GPA and she didn't make it into the national papers and I think many/most people in this topic could say the same. This kid is in the papers with worse, on paper, creds because he is black. Period. Am I wrong?

A black kid almost got a perfect score on the SAT. Lets ring a fucking bell and alert the media. Why? He hasn't done anything yet.

I didn't. Graduated college in 2016 though.

Turbam posted...

How are we supposed to move the citizens of Mexico?

Trains, trucks, boats, planes. The usual ways.

We need a moat and weve already carved it out. Thats right the Panama Canal! We just move all the people out of Mexico and Central America to the other side of the canal and all our problems are solved.

I'm #2. My parents live nearby and I go with them to make them happy.

Battlefront 2 on PC is the best looking third person shooter I've ever played.

JE19426 posted...

Atralis posted...

You are telling me you spent exactly zero seconds in the military

Wrong.

You are telling me you spent exactly zero seconds in the military and that if you told them to enforce a ban on the second amendment they would just act like robots and do exactly what you say because that is how soldiers do.

Also wrong.

Work on your reading comprehension. Literally none of my statements came anywhere close to what you've just stated.

Are you actually going to claim you served in the US military and that all your bros in the military were totally pro gun control? That most were? That enough were that you actually have confidence that if they were ordered to participate in gun control they would obey?

I'm calling you a liar.

nexigrams posted...

They can do that now if they want to. You think your hunting rifle is gonna stop a military with a global presence and thousands of nuclear warheads? Literally the worst possible gun control counter argument.

The military would not be on your side for the same reason you never joined the military is my point.

Foppe posted...

So 100% of all US military, police, FBI, CIA, etc are psychos that just wait for a ban of guns so they can take over the country?
And your problem is with people that have had enough of monthly school shootings?
Priority wrong?

Not 100%. A lot more than 50%. Which would be enough. If you support repealing the 2nd amendment this is actually something you need to be afraid of. There will be a massive armed backlash from the inside and outside of the the government.

Look. If there was a strong movement to make the US more like Australia than the US currently is in terms of firearms legislation you would need a strong public consensus and a LOT of guys willing to kick down doors and take the weapons currently in the US (we have more than 300 million firearms). My whole point of this topic is that even if you get the public consensus required to repeal the 2nd amendment (a long ways off) you would still have hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms out there and the people that currently support a ban are the exact people that are afraid of guns and would be unwilling to kick down doors to take them.

There are multiple states that have already made it illegal to enforce federal firearms legislation. The people that you would currently be ordering to enforce federal firearms legislation, from my experience, tend to be on the opposite side of the issue. This exact situation happened in Colorado. It wasn't as dramatic as a civil war but Colorado's sheriffs nearly all basically told the state government to eat shit and the state government did nothing because the people they would have sent to actually enforce the states gun laws sympathized more with the rebels than with the state.

What do you do in that situation? How could this even work nationwide in cases like this? The anti-gun populace (on average) orders the pro gun military to take away guns. They don't. What do you do then? Fire the military and join up yourself? Don't make me laugh. The whole point of this ban on guns is that you are afraid of guns and you are going to be the guy volunteering to kick down doors and seize guns?

How is that going to work?

JE19426 posted...

Atralis posted...

How long did you serve in the military? What branch. Where did you deploy to?

This, kids is a fine example of a non sequitur. Notice how instead of arguing against my claims, the person chooses to ask questions unrelated to my statements.

Four years. Army. Iraq and Afghanistan. Eight months in the first a year in the second. I'm telling you that the people I served with would shoot you dead if you told them to enforce a repeal of the second amendment. You are telling me you spent exactly zero seconds in the military and that if you told them to enforce a ban on the second amendment they would just act like robots and do exactly what you say because that is how soldiers do.

Except it isn't. You would know better than me though right? You would never serve in the Army. Not in a million years. Think about the types of people you've known who would?

JE19426 posted...

What a dumb topic this is.

Webmaster4531 posted...

Repeal the 2nd =/= Banning Guns

I've never seen anyone say all guns should be banned period. Even the closest to that I've seen, acknowledge that the military and police should be able to have guns.

How long did you serve in the military? What branch? Where did you deploy to? How long?

Sphyx posted...

Atralis posted...

KK_the_Slider posted...

So this topic just proves gun owns are psychotic?

I don't even own a gun. But I did serve for four years in the Army and I'm telling out that the guys in the Active Duty Army will fucking murder you if you tell them to repeal the 2nd amendment. Like I said I don't own a gun. I didn't own a gun before I joined the Army. I don't own one now. I've never been a gun nut and I don't feel like most people have cause to own one.

I'm telling you that if you try and repeal the second amendment the people that make up our current Army will turn their guns on you. It will happen.

Was this supposed to be a counter-argument?

Sorry buddy I was just trying to warn these civilians. How long did you spend in the military Sphyx? How long were you deployed and where?

KK_the_Slider posted...

So this topic just proves gun owns are psychotic?

I don't even own a gun. But I did serve for four years in the Army and I'm telling out that the guys in the Active Duty Army will fucking murder you if you tell them to repeal the 2nd amendment. Like I said I don't own a gun. I didn't own a gun before I joined the Army. I don't own one now. I've never been a gun nut and I don't feel like most people have cause to own one.

I'm telling you that if you try and repeal the second amendment the people that make up our current Army will turn their guns on you. It will happen.

They tell you to fuck off and start shooting every elected official you voted in to repeal the 2nd amendment and take control of the country.

What do you do? Because that is exactly what would happen.

The whole idea of repealing the 2nd amendment seems absurd to me for this reason.

You aren't the guy that becomes a cop.
or becomes an FBI agent.
Or even the guy that joins the military.

You are that kid that is demanding that guns be banned when the murder rate has halved on it's own in your own lifetime because are shitting yourself in fear of your own shadow. What identifies you the most in this next civil war? Your fear and weakness in the face of a perceived but not actualized danger. And you actually fucking believe you could tell the people in your and previous generations that WERE the types of guys that joined the military, the police, the FBI, to take away all the guns.

They will kill you. They will gun you down they will gun down the people you elected to vote in that direction. What would you do in that situation? Get a gun? Don't make me laugh.

Atralis posted...

COVxy posted...

If you can't tell, I can't be arsed to have this debate with someone who will google "psychology isn't a science" and copy and paste the first link in his confirmatory search to justify his opinion.

Show me the widely recognized scientific test that is used to determine this.

Don't fucking tell me that individual psychologists just talk to the kids and use their feelings and experience to determine whether a kid is transgendered. That is not science. That isn't even in the same fucking ballpark as science. Tell me what test is being used. Tell me the % false positives, % false negatives, etc. show me the shit that actual medical doctors would have to show before they determine whether a medication or surgery is effective or whether it is bullshit.

Go ahead.

Act outraged I asked you for the name of the scientific test and tell me that this is science that you are using as your reasoning for castrating kids.

So sure of themeslves so righteous then I ask them for the one important thing that separates their treatment from a prescription of snorting rhino horns as a cure.

COVxy posted...

If you can't tell, I can't be arsed to have this debate with someone who will google "psychology isn't a science" and copy and paste the first link in his confirmatory search to justify his opinion.

Show me the widely recognized scientific test that is used to determine this.

Don't fucking tell me that individual psychologists just talk to the kids and use their feelings and experience to determine whether a kid is transgendered. That is not science. That isn't even in the same fucking ballpark as science. Tell me what test is being used. Tell me the % false positives, % false negatives, etc. show me the shit that actual medical doctors would have to show before they determine whether a medication or surgery is effective or whether it is bullshit.

COVxy posted...

Atralis posted...

Am I wrong?

Yup.

So you have a conclusive test verified through the scientific method that you believe can determine whether someone at a certain age is transgender? Which test? Has this test been verified using the scientific method? What is the rate of false positives? False negatives? What about this test justifies chemically castrating kids from age 8 to 18?

If you can't answer these questions how the fuck can you claim that psychology is science? If you can answer all these questions then you have some ground to speak from. If you can't then you are pretending that pseudoscientific bullshit is "science".

This isn't debatable it is a hard red line. Just tell me the test. Show me the data. Show me the recognized "scientific" test that can determine whether or not someone is transgender at 8 years old that is used all over the world. Show me the science.