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It's been gone for me for months now, I wondered WTF happened.

Really fucking sucks, that was super useful

DirtBasedSoap posted...

bruh imagine youre just chilling in your house, playing a game or something and the whole thing just falls in the ocean and you die

Imagine you swim to land, coughing up a lung, thankful to be alive, only to notice you got stung by a box jellyfish while in the water b/c it's fucking Australia and you're going to die anyway

OhhhJa posted...

Being able to actually take someone down and grapple effectively can absolutely help you win a street fight lol. I'd actually say having a good ground game is the most important factor that could save your ass from being pounded to dust. Sure every combat sport is a controlled setting with rules but anyone in the ufc would absolutely annihilate you or me in a street fight too because they are highly trained in multiple martial arts, wrestling, etc

If you're sure there's no outside interference happening.
If you're sure the guy you grab and wrestle to the ground doesn't have a knife on him or something.

There's no rules in a street fight, it's unpredictable what threats you might face. Intentionally anchoring yourself to one guy, reducing your visibility of your surroundings, not being able to protect yourself from others to such an extent that they can literally just kick/stomp on you... these are not ideal conditions to put yourself into.
If you can take them down by holding onto an arm lock or such and retain the ability to look around and release the hold to run for it if necessary, it's better. If you're trying to slither onto the other person and get him into a close hold, you're kinda being foolish.\

MeatiestMeatus posted...

Yeah the dude in the video is either trolling or incredibly dumb and arrogant. I'm gonna go with trolling because he's got a YouTube channel to feed. It's clickbait.

Like, obviously it's trolling. Rather harmless though, just made the other guy feel pretty foolish.

There's no way anyone who takes fighting seriously would dismiss BJJ as ineffective any more than anyone who takes fighting seriously would put all their fighting eggs in one basket and focus on BJJ alone as the only discipline to study to become a well-rounded, professional fighter.

Homeboy seems to have a boner for karate. If you took a grandmaster in karate and a grandmaster who holds high-degree belts in karate and BJJ and staged a no-holds barred fight, my money is on the one who studied BJJ coming out on top.

Which is essentially what this guy does in the video. With his prior knowledge of karate and training, however brief, in BJJ he clearly outclasses the BJJ white belt. The white belt who's trying to fight within the ruleset of the tournament which the YouTuber is completely ignorant of, garnering penalties and warnings for doing dumb shit. Hardly a fair representation of BJJ and not at all an honest depiction of what a fair and even matchup would look like

Just an ignorant take all-around, honestly

Where is it "required" and WHY is it required for a BJJ tournament that you agreeably flop to the ground like a professional soccer player?
BJJ is focused on the ground game, why can't it teach people how to do a proper takedown or such to actually get there?
Other martial arts may have katas for practice, wrestling might have starting positions. But no other serious martial art (again, Seagal's version of Aikido is not one) straight up requires an opponent to play along to do anything at all.

SilentSeph posted...

Next he'll make a video about how easy soccer is when you simply pick the ball up and throw it into the goal

Pretty disingenuous comparison. More accurate would be winning at soccer by just standing around, walking casually, and kicking the ball when it comes to you or something.
The equivalent to picking the ball up in soccer would be if he sucker punched the guy trying to lock up w/ him and said, "see how easy it is to beat a BJJ practitioner?"
Being able to defeat someone who's not even trying and being totally passive is a really low fucking bar for a martial art.

I never played any Xenosaga or Xenogear games and Xenoblade 1 is my 2nd favorite game of all time (after A Link to the Past). It has no relation to them at all, aside from maybe some relations retroactively established later in the Xenoblade series...

Whether you want to play beyond XC1 is the question. I think Xenoblade Chronicles X is worth playing just for having the best combat and exploration in the entire series, even if the plot is terrible (it starts off amazing and progressively goes off a cliff).
2 and 3 are good enough games overall, like 7.5 or 8 out of 10, but have some massive flaws and (I say this having not played the XC3 DLC that maybe/hopefully "fixes everything") unfortunately manage to sour XC1 in hindsight w/ certain decisions made... I really can't go into details for obvious reasons, but XC1's amazing story is honestly more enjoyable when you pretend 2 and 3 don't exist. I'll just say that...

Zareth posted...

Kind of like Steven Seagal's martial art that requires someone to attack you in a very specific way for it to work at all

Aikido
The difference is, people generally don't take that seriously and especially Seagal's version of it (I have seen videos where it does have some merit and good techniques for actual situations) while as BJJ is considered one of the best and most "practical" martial arts. And frankly in an actual self defense scenario, Aikido would probably be slightly less useless than BJJ since at least it's prioritizing avoiding attacks and creating distance so you can run away.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

This kind of makes him the asshole, though.

It'd be like entering a greco-roman wrestling tournament and refusing to assume the clinch position. Sure, you might be technically right that it would never happen in a "real fight", but you're still a prick.

In greco-roman wrestling, if you just stood there as the guy grabbed onto you, he'd have plenty of techniques to take you down to the mat.
It's genuinely difficult for me to think of another martial art where you can go "Luigi wins by doing nothing" and it actually works. Try it in Judo and they have all sorts of throws and takedowns to put you on the mat. Try it in karate and you're a punching bag.

ForteEXE3850 posted...

FYI MMA has proven most established forms of traditional martial arts don't actually work in a real fight.

"Real Fight" being, a fight where the opponent is uncooperative, and not restricting themselves to the same fighting style as you.

ForteEXE3850 posted...

MMA fighters train in multiple fighting styles, than apply the parts that work. That's the point.

Although a lot of that does end up being grappling.

Ironically it's the MMA mindset that's propelled BJJ to such heights of arrogance. MMA is not a real fight. The whole reason BJJ and other grappling arts thrive in MMA is because the rules protect their weaknesses and give them an unfair advantage. You can shoot in on someone with your head lowered to tackle them to the ground w/ the back of your neck and head totally exposed and the other guy can't make you pay for it b/c the rules won't let him.
I agree training in multiple styles is best, and every (legitimate) martial art has things to offer. I'm clowning on BJJ, but it does have its place in self-defense. From the perspective of, "if you end up on the ground, we're going to teach you to not panic and some techniques to get out of a grapple and back to your feet", it's great. When people actually think intentionally going to the ground and grappling in a street fight is a good idea, it's a fucking problem. You absolutely do not want that, then you lose the ability to maneuver and flee, the ability to protect yourself from other attackers, and even your situational awareness of your surroundings.

It's rich idiot fucks like this that will be the first to come w/ their hands out like paupers for taxpayer money when mother nature inevitably destroys their million dollar cliff edge house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJ2vt8wUbY

Thought this was pretty funny. Brazilian Jujitsu has its place when you end up on the ground and is very good for that, sure. But the "90% of fights go to the ground" stat is bs, and like any hyper-focused martial art, it hilariously falls apart when the other person doesn't feel like rolling around on the floor. Like, that should be obvious, but for some reason people talk up BJJ like it's the greatest martial art ever w/ such arrogance. Seeing a dude win by just standing there and refusing to drop to the ground until the judge made him (and then still winning by laying on top like a fallen tree log) was great.

Makes me more hopeful for the game, but it's still a PS5 only exclusive right now and I neither trust Sony nor wish to give them money.
Hopefully it gets a PC release before too long, I'll buy it then.

Sucks that Nintendo (which isn't powerful enough for most 3rd party games) and PC are the only real options anymore.

The geographic center for the Earth's population would be in southern/eastern Asia, so the capital should be around there.

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/more-than-half-the-worlds-population-lives-inside-this-circle

Basically pick any major city inside that circle.
Don't know why the fuck Asia wasn't even an option when over half the world's population lives there.
"Other" when you had like 4 other spots for poll options, lol

I prefer my feet to be free (not just for bed; #SandalLife), but in the winter it's kind of necessary

I didn't even know it finally released!

Will check reviews later. Was initially hyped for a medieval fantasy game w/ Platinum Games style combat, but then P+ got dropped like halfway thru development w/ the claim their work was already done, which sounded like bull shit. And I lost most of my interest.

Naysaspace posted...

lol

learned something new tonite

"providence plantation". I wonder what era THAT dates back to....?

The early/mid 1600's, before slave plantations as we know them today even existed. It was just another word for colony or plot of land, probably chosen for alliteration.
There were never slave plantations in Rhode Island, and in fact the portion of the state that was "Providence Plantations" (basically the mainland) outlawed slavery and was one of the first English colonies to do so. The "Rhode Island" (which is the island Newport is on) portion of the now-combined state did engage in the slave trade to buy molasses and sell rum.
So when dumb fuck activists lobbied to remove the "Providence Plantations" from the state name and leave it just Rhode Island, they were actively fighting to remove the part of the state name dedicated to a staunch abolitionist and leave only the portion that came from areas that profited from slavery. Because the word made them feel bad.
History is important.