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Ive quit many crappy jobs

Call center for a big national bank during the 2009 recession. People screaming at me over their overdraft fees or begging me to stop their checks when it was too late. Some thought I was at a physical location and would scream at me to go get their check from the atm. Quit after two months

Sales engineer job that was really customer service and they knew it. Had me just taking orders and following up on shipping constantly. The dudes were super nice but very chatty with me it was a drain. Quit after 3 months.

Another sales engineer job but it was obvious they werent going to do well financially and they started laying off their outside sales people. I knew I wasnt going to make the minimum required to make commission. Also my boss was kind of crazy. I loved her on a personal level we got along, but she was type A and micro managing. Quit after 3 months.

The worst was one was support for engineers in the field. Male engineers would laugh at getting a woman on the phone, argue that my solution was incorrect, call back and get a male on the line who would tell them the exact same thing and they would get praised. I had no formal training unlike every other on my team (who was male) who were flown out for 2 weeks hands on training with our products. Despite that, my numbers for cases closed and customer satisfaction were the best but management brushed that off as my empathy and not technical ability. Then I got a sexist manager who targeted me and made my life hell. I quit on the spot one day, over a year into it.

Oh and then there was the one where the engineers (male again) knew I was on a TN visa and used that to make me do bitch work and laugh about it. I know this because another engineer came to me to watch out because he overheard them talking about taking advantage of my status because I couldnt say anything back or risk leaving the country. That was fun too

Taco Bell breakfast Crunchwrap

CyricZ posted...

I want people to respect the idea that I'm shaving my beard down to a chiseled chinstrap for my cosplay.

A chinstrap that will completely disappear under my face mask.

Thank you.

What if you made the mask a print out of the chinstrap?

Dont cook them together. They cook differently. But cooking one after the other in the same pan is fine. I would do a quick wipe though because you dont want any oil you used to burn and effect the flavor.

CyricZ posted...

Oh wow. That'd sound adorable if it weren't constant.

She is absolutely adorable. And I know Im going to sound like one of those moms but shes so smart and inquisitive. She wants to observe and analyze everything. She has always hated being confined to things so things like baby rockers, swings and play pens are a no go for her. I get jealous when I see other babies just chilling in those things like whats that like lol

CyricZ posted...

How mobile is she?

Crawling and climbing over everything. Not walking yet but she cruises along furniture and walls easily. I have to be around her at all times because she can hurt herself if unsupervised. Its very early for her to be this mobile at 8 months. I cant even change her diaper without help because she flips over and tries to crawl over the changing table and fights every second of it lol. By the end of the day, Im so physically and mentally drained I cant focus on anything and just go to bed. Rinse and repeat. I have a safe playpen area for her but she hates being in it too long so I give her time to explore the house and just follow her around.

Ruvan22 posted...

Baby related exhaustion? Or just overall life related exhaustion?

Have fun at MAGFest TC!! Will there be a murder on the train like the Orient Express?

Both. Moved to a new house. I had 2 weeks vacation for the holidays but used it to unpack nonstop and then taking care of a sick baby for the last week. Now back at work but its hard to be on all day and then go right back to baby duties with no break ever. I know things will get better when shes older but right now this is the hardest time of my life.

Hope you have a good time!

Im at my desk supposed to be working but just too exhausted to do anything.

You know my vote lol

Yall need an instant pot. Just toss everything in and walk away. I made a weeks worth of lunch yesterday and it only took me an hour.

Its much cheaper to make food at home than order out. Even fast food is getting crazy expensive. And I cook in batches so Im not cooking every day. Im guilty of ordering a lot of takeout for convenience but Ive been trying to stop and I definitely am saving money.

I hope it gets better!

On my end, my girl is sick with her first cold. Her nanny came in last week on Monday and I could hear her coughing and sneezing, so I sent her home and test for Covid. Test came back negative and it was a cold. We had her stay home for the week anyway in case. By Thursday, my daughter started to have a cough and runny nose. Now its just thick mucus and she has a hard time eating and sleeping. I got the nose frida to suck out mucus and have been giving her warm baths to help.

Im beyond exhausted since its been several days of a cranky, uncomfortable baby. And pissed at the nanny for coming in when she was sick, especially with Omicron running rampant. Now Im started to get a scratchy throat and fatigue, but home test also says negative for Covid so at least its just a cold.

I dont see anything wrong with that. My brother moved back home at 25 and saved a ton of money and bought a condo. In my culture though its fairly normal to live with your parents as an adult. We dont just throw out our kids at 18.

TheGoldenEel posted...

Were breastfeeding

mom is going to try cutting out dairy because apparently thats a common food sensitivity

he seems to burp ok when we burp him but then an hour later we try to lay him down and he spews

Cutting dairy is a good idea. Ours used to burp fine but when we kept at it a few more minutes and more would come up so there may just be more gas than you think. Try the probiotics though. Another thing we used is gripe water for really bad episodes. I used to give her some and then shed burp and fart nonstop.

Im sorry, this period sucks. The first 3 months are the absolute hardest. Its known as the fourth trimester. Just hang in there and it will get better.

Mine used to sometimes projectile vomit all over me. Good times lol

My baby had reflux too. 5 weeks is when it started to get bad and then it peaked around 8. Got better around 12

For us we had to burp her a very long time before shed let out these massive burps. My husband was a pro at it. Then we kept her upright about 30 minutes.

Also probiotics if you havent tried those yet.

Is your baby breastfed or formula? Ours is formula fed and we switched to the Dr Browns anti colic bottles. Those seemed to help. Just had to make sure to use the newborn nipple sizes because the ones they came with were too fast for her.

And yes America is truly barbaric with parental leave. And then expect you to go back to work and perform the same as everyone else when you are lucky if you string 2-3 hours of sleep a night.

My husband gets really angry when any one comments about how nice he is to help me with our daughter. He doesnt consider it helping, hes her father too. But people seriously give him so much praise for the smallest of things while Im criticized over everything I do.

I dated a JW a long time ago. He wanted to leave the religion but was worried about being ex communicated. The religion is absolutely a cult. They cut out anyone who ever leaves from their life, regardless of if theyre family. We dated long distance for a year and a half with him making plans to leave the cult and move to be with me. He finally broke it to his family and suddenly ghosted me for over a week before he broke up with me and blocked me. I never heard from him again.

Awesome to have goals for yourself like that. It helps to build a spreadsheet to track your spending and saving. I always do one each year and put everything on there as for monthly spending and what we should be saving. Make a list for yourself as to what your overall goals are then break them down into smaller goals to attain for yourself and what timeframe you want to achieve them by.

You really just need to look up how many calories you need to consume to maintain your weight with your current activity level. There are a few calculators to help you figure it out. Then you need to deduct 500 calories a day to lose a pound a week. Beyond that is too extreme imo. With my height and being very sedentary right now, 1500 is about what I need to maintain, so 1200 is very reasonable. Ive been consuming maybe 2000 the last few months and steadily gaining weight so its hard now to reduce so much. Consuming below 1200 isnt recommended so thats what Im sticking to. I plan to incorporate exercise starting this week though.

wackyteen posted...

Is that supposed to be an appetizer?

As a 52 woman its not bad but I would not recommend this diet to everyone. I dont think an average sized man should attempt it for example, its far too restricting.

Jagr_68 posted...

Achievable but very unfulfilling because your food options shrink drastically and it'll be boring maintaining that sort of diet for more than a day if you enjoy variety.

You can eat really tasty things but you just need to be mindful of how much youre eating.

Heres an example of my lunch the other day. Around 350 calories. Ground turkey made with soy sauce and hoisin, topped with sriracha and furikake. Side of steamed rice and broccoli
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/3/AAdXATAACwzh.jpg

Another thing I made is BBQ pulled chicken that I eat in a half a pita with a side of veggies. This week Ill be making chipotle chicken salad and spaghetti squash bolognese. For breakfast Ill either have some yogurt, granola and berries, or egg white omelette with oatmeal. Ill snack on walnuts since they have healthy fats and are filling, Ill sprinkle some cinnamon on them for flavor. I leave room for a few squares of my favorite chocolate every night. Its a lot of effort and I have the luxury of wfh so I can take the time to meal prep.

Ive been trying a 1200 calorie diet for the last week and its extremely difficult. And Im a 52 woman. I limit each meal to about 300-400 calories and try to keep some for snacks. I come up with tasty food so its not miserable and bland. But its still very difficult. I cheated the last couple of days for New Years but Im back on it today. You have to be really diligent about counting calories, measuring, weighing, etc

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I also forgot that its best to leave the steaks out about an hour so they can get to room temp. Makes for more even cooking. I often will salt them with coarse salt and then rinse it off before cooking. Makes the steak extra tender.

I dont know t bones exactly but general steak advice is to make sure the pan is very hot before you put the steak down. Get a good sear on each side, about 2 minutes each. Then I usually lower the heat and toss a bunch of butter and baste until medium rare. You can use a meat thermometer if you have one but I usually go by touch. When you press down you should feel a bit of a bounce. Similar to pressing the inside of your palm. If you push down and its too soft, its still too rare and if theres no bounce then its over cooked.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Appeal to authority fallacy. Either use words to persuade, or dont bother. You surely have to be aware someone being experienced does not make them correct.

I think its your approach.

Like, youre just saying My husband is in tech and I know what Im talking about ad nauseam.

Youre not even replying to what peoples point is.

People itt are saying if making deliveries temporary once a month is too beneath you, youre being entitled or overly difficult.

Your stance, correct me if Im wrong, is that employees can easily find positions with better pay without the extraneous driving, and that DD is trying to get free labor.

I dont see how your stance contradicts the point posters itt are saying.

You just come off as a bougie douchebag when you keep spouting about your experience and knowledge blah blah. Even if youre correct, people are gonna speak against you out of spite.

I think this is the correct take:

I only mentioned my husband working in tech once as an example to someone who quit a job over making him return to the office once a week. He found a full remote job easily. I have cited that this is my job many times though. Ive been a recruiter for a number of years and Im very familiar with the Bay Area market.

Yes they will lose people. No one is arguing that. Ive only explained the context of the Bay Area being very expensive and $400k not being outside the norm. Ive also corrected people who assume their software engineers are easily replaceable talent. They are not. Ive also countered the claim that they were fine doing it before with the fact that the pandemic has changed the market in favor of employees. All of these points are based out of conversations Ive had with software engineers every day as well as the knowledge of how difficult 2021 has been for all tech recruiters due to an incredibly competitive market unlike any other weve seen. Im not really sure why any of that is ruffling feathers but I have my suspicions.

The charity part is really negligible when you consider theyre only donating the tips they get. So theyre taking time out of their day, interrupting their work, to drive to a restaurant, possibly wait around a while, drive to deliver it and then drive home to maybe contribute $3-5. Its very little return for the time invested. You could argue that it makes the devs better in tune with their product, sure. But then they can do that every 6 months or a year. Or implement a program that has them do a few deliveries as training during their onboarding. DD has an army of data analysts, UX researchers and data scientists that work on improving the app.

I prefer setting up monthly contributions and my company matches them dollar for dollar with no hoops or attempt at marketing. Other tech companies offer volunteer hours where they let their employees contribute working hours to a cause of their choice. It has nothing to do with being entitled or feeling above the job. Ive volunteered numerous times for things my company has set up for charitable causes but they were things I wanted to do. They were not forced nor tied to performance reviews.

People shitting on me out of spite just proves their own insecurity, its no skin off my back. Im simply sharing what I know of this industry and if that bugs anyone then it says more about them than me.

I have my daughter and shes amazing. I never knew you could feel love for someone to this level before.

We always bring our baby at restaurants. As a newborn she just slept and now as an 8 month old she just chills while we eat. Shes never been a crier. I know people who dont bring their babies because they cry the whole time. Since she acts so good I just dont see the need to leave her alone with someone. As she gets older and wants to be entertained more, that may change.

b_nolan posted...

You're not as important as you think you are

Industry knowledge and experience =\= importance but sure ok. Whatever helps you feel better =]

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Yeah its not like I make a living out of capitalizing on these kinds of things or anything. Its not like my job is related to being on top of the tech market. What do I know compared to your random CE basement dweller.

And how exactly have I been wrong? Ive already countered your argument about them being ok with it before with current market trends and my direct experience, and your response has been nothing but emotionally charged garbage.

CE: raw raw raw

Person with actual knowledge: Well heres some context and what this means

CE: OMG why are you complaining?? Youre such a simp! Fuck off! Raw raw raw

I forgot how emotionally charged this board is over the silliest things.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

This might be one of the few times Cleos take is utter horseshit.

Then go there.

What is your complaint? If you dont want to drive once a month, then leave. Who cares?

Lol my so called horseshit take is based on years of direct industry experience. But CE will argue about stuff they know absolutely nothing about regardless. I dont recall having a complaint? Im very happy with the news because I hate DD and can poach their people. Im educating people about things they dont understand and am getting shit for it. Part of the reason I stopped posting here so much.

MutantJohn posted...

Cleo, is your husband like a software engineer or something? Why simp so hard for Doordash engineers?

Im a technical recruiter. I talk to a dozen engineers a week and this is my area of expertise. Im not simping for anyone. Im explaining the context that the average user here doesnt know. DD is risking losing their talent and I dont believe it has anything to do with philanthropy. They want a few thousand people to do deliveries every month because its a few thousand dashers they dont have to pay every month. The employees donate their tips to charity to maybe feel good. But its all about DDs bottom line.

pogo_rabid posted...

It's a developer for a phone app...and not a unique or remarkable one at that. They can be replaced instantly. It's not like they need the cream of the crop talent to write this kinda stuff.

See this is where CE really talks out of their ass. Lmao at thinking its instant. With finding competent candidates, having them go through the interview process, offer negotiations, etc, youre looking at a couple of months to replace a senior engineer. And thats if the recruiter is decent and aggressive at finding people. The tech market is a shit show competing for candidates right now. They have so many options. Every time I go to make an offer, they have 3-4 other offers on the table. Just because you think their app is nbd doesnt mean theyre not talented. They wouldnt be paying $400k if they were shit.

CableZL posted...

Eh, I think if I was making $400k and had to do a single delivery a month... I don't think it would be a big deal for me

What if you were making $400k but every other company in the city offered that too and you lived in the freaking Bay Area where the cost of living is astronomical. And you had people messaging you daily wanting you to work for their company. You guys are thinking of this through your own personal bubble and not looking at the bigger picture.

Maybe it was fine when everyone was commuting every day and were already out and about. But these devs have had it cushy for the last 2 years working in their jammies.

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Except the pandemic changed everything. Its a candidates market now. People are far less willing to do things they had to do before once they stopped having to. Most of the candidates I talk to are on the market for a new job because their company wants them back in the office. Even just for a couple of days.

AEW posted...

good for them they are free to seek employment elsewhere.

Yes and they will and Ill be ready along with tons of other recruiters who will be flooding their inboxes lol

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Youre just butthurt youre talking out of your fucking ass and it shows

CE_gonna_CE posted...

I mean, sure, but

This. Cranking out one delivery every once in a while is no big deal, so if people really think they are above it Im not sure they are the kind of folks Id want working for my company.

You seem confused to think this is an employers market. DD is being dumb given the kind of talent they employ. They have solid software engineers that other companies are more than willing to take on, offer more money to, full remote and no monthly deliveries. $400k for a Bay Area software engineer is pretty standard.

Im not an engineer but Im well sought after in the market. If my company imposed monthly deliveries, I would jump ship so fast.

Babies/kids are a lot smarter than given credit for. Im always amazed by the little things my girl picks up so quickly. But no, whatever the fuck that is thats hot garbage.

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Lol you know so little of the tech market, let alone the Bay Area where DD is based. These engineers are hit up by a dozen recruiters a day, conservatively. They can find another job easy, and make more money too. If they arent interested in driving around delivering food, even if once a month, they wont. My husband is in tech and jumped ship just because they implemented one day a week in the office. People hate dealing with traffic and WFH for almost 2 years has solidified that to people.

Im ready to start poaching their employees. DD is being ridiculous with this lmao. Works for me

Ive used it and never noticed any difference tbh. I have better luck taking biotin supplements.

To support workers who are having a rough time and busting their butts during a pandemic. They still made my food, packaged it, rang it up, etc. Im not a cheap ass.

bsp77 posted...

That is so sad. The few times a woman has said "not interested", I have wished them well and that is it.

Any new recipes, Cleo? And how is the baby?

I used to think being direct was the best course and bla bla bla. An honest thank you but Im not interested and it just never was accepted that simply. It didnt always end horribly but it just invited a bunch more back and forth most of the time. I personally have never ghosted anyone but I also understand why people do it. No one owes you anything because of one date.

And yesterday I made turkey lettuce wraps (trying to lose weight). They were so good! My friends recipe: ground turkey, onions, bell peppers, garlic, soy sauce, hoisin, sriracha, honey, sesame oil, sesame seeds, furikake, salt and pepper. Delicious!

Im no millionaire but maybe some day hopefully. But yeah I make bank lol

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Whats the bottle?

Johnny Walker Blue - Cities edition. Was $200. I thought a store employee would deliver it, otherwise I wouldnt have done delivery. I dont trust DD like that lol

Lol so much whining here about how women should subject themselves to potential verbal abuse to protect their egos. Most guys cannot handle direct rejection, no matter how nice they say they are or how mature. Every time Ive done it, thinking it was the right thing to do, they either backtracked and claimed they werent really asking me out, or called me a bitch, or tried to argue, or blew up my phone. And this was before the age of texting and OLD. I cant imagine what its like out there now.

Divorced after 17 years of marriage and together 25 years. They were together since they were 16. My dad cheated and wasnt remorseful. Their marriage was toxic as well.

archedsoul posted...

While it's still suspect, undeliverable doesn't always mean they have to return it. Door Dash just takes the loss and tells them to dispose of it. Even if it's hundreds of dollars.

So wouldnt that just encourage drivers to pretend they couldnt deliver the order so they can take it? I was waiting by the door and never heard anything. Never received a call from the driver or anything. And Id understand not returning food, but this was a liquor bottle.